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T20 Cricket World Cup 2024

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  • edited June 13
    Bangladesh v Netherlands update
     Toss will be at 15.30, match will start at 15.45, with no overs lost.
  • Netherlands won the toss & will field.
  • edited June 13
    This WC won't be remembered as its original intention of being "ground breaking". Fragmented in terms of timings, bad weather and poor pitches have all served to undermine what really should be a flagship competition. 
    You have a point about the fragmented timing although I can see what they were trying to do in terms of appeasing as many TV markets as they could - especially Europe, Asia and Australia.

    Bad weather and poor pitches I’m not so much in agreement. One massive outlier pitch in New York (there was always potential for funky stuff to happen using a new location with a drop in pitch) but otherwise the pitches have been fine IMO.

    The weather is unfortunate but so far only two games out of 26 haven’t been completed. The ODI WC in 2019 had four abandoned games in 55 so a very similar rate. Was that competition undermined?
  • Bangladesh 54 for 2 after 6 overs
  • Bangladesh 76 for 3 after 10 overs
  • Bangladesh 112 for 4 after 16 overs
  • Bangladesh 159 for 5 after 20 overs
  • This WC won't be remembered as its original intention of being "ground breaking". Fragmented in terms of timings, bad weather and poor pitches have all served to undermine what really should be a flagship competition. 
    You have a point about the fragmented timing although I can see what they were trying to do in terms of appeasing as many TV markets as they could - especially Europe, Asia and Australia.

    Bad weather and poor pitches I’m not so much in agreement. One massive outlier pitch in New York (there was always potential for funky stuff to happen using a new location with a drop in pitch) but otherwise the pitches have been fine IMO.

    The weather is unfortunate but so far only two games out of 26 haven’t been completed. The ODI WC in 2019 had four abandoned games in 55 so a very similar rate. Was that competition undermined?
    It is, as I say, a combination of all those things. The schedule makes it hard to watch that many games; New York hosted high proportion of the games to date (8 of the first 24 matches played) and the side batting first averaged 107 - all the other matches average just 142 and that is exceptionally low for pitches that are "OK"; although the weather has caused only a couple to be abandoned, a few others have been stop/start events and when one adds that at least 6 or 7 were complete non-events as contests. All in all, it does make it hard to get the juices going. Things might change for the better but if I were new to the game (and the purpose of this being partially held in the States is to introduce it to Americans) and been told that, of all the types of cricket played, this is the one that is the most explosive then I would probably wonder what all the fuss is about.     
  • Netherlands  36 for 2 after 6 overs
  • Netherlands 74 for 3 after 10 overs
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  • Netherlands 111 for 5 after 15 overs
  • Tim Pringle with an almost unbeatable candidate for worst innings of the tournament 
  • ICC Men's T20 World Cup, 2024 - Match 27
    Arnos Vale Ground, Arnos Vale, St Vincent

    BANGLADESH

    159/5 (20.0)

    NETHERLANDS

    134/8 (19.6)
    Bangladesh beat Netherlands by 25 runs
  • Leuth said:
    Tim Pringle with an almost unbeatable candidate for worst innings of the tournament 
    Once you flop you can't stop. 
  • Florida storms threaten Ireland & Pakistan Super 8 hopes

    Tropical storms and flooding have put the final three T20 World Cup group games held in the United States at risk, but organisers are highly unlikely to move them from Florida.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/articles/cgrrdeew1xxo
  • What’s the weather like in Antigua?
  • England win toss & will field.
    • England


    • Phil Salt
    • Jos Buttler (c), Captain (wk), Wicket Keeper
    • Will Jacks
    • Jonny Bairstow
    • Harry Brook
    • Moeen Ali
    • Liam Livingstone
    • Jofra Archer
    • Adil Rashid
    • Mark Wood
    • Reece Topley
  • Here is a useful guide from the bbc website on the net run rate situation for England : 


    It's a big if, obviously, but to give you an idea of the situation...

    If England can do anything like Australia managed against Namibia on this ground two days ago - bowling their opponents out for 72 and chasing the target in 5.4 overs - then their net run-rate problems would likely be behind them.

    They'd then just have to beat Namibia on Saturday and hope Australia beat Scotland to go through.

  • In terms of nrr are you better batting and putting on a 200 plus then beating them with room to spare, or bowling them out and then chasing the target quickly? 
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  • edited June 13
    Whatever target Oman put on the board we have to be aiming to knock it off in 12-13 overs. Then repeat that against Namibia.
  • McBobbin said:
    In terms of nrr are you better batting and putting on a 200 plus then beating them with room to spare, or bowling them out and then chasing the target quickly? 
    Also from the bbc website 

    How is net run-rate calculated?published at 19:4519:45

    Over the next 40 overs and few days, you might hear a lot about net run-rate. Here's how that works...

    Run-rate is the average number of runs scored per over by a team in their entire innings - so, for example, a score of 140 off 20 overs equals seven runs per over.

    Net run-rate is calculated by subtracting the opposition's run-rate from the other team's run-rate.

    The winning side will therefore have a positive net run-rate, and the losers a negative net run-rate.

    In a tournament, net run-rate is worked out by taking the average runs per over scored by that team in each game and subtracting the average runs per over scored against them in each game.

    If a team is bowled out inside their allotted overs, their run-rate is calculated by dividing the runs by the maximum overs they could have batted - 20 overs in the case.

  • https://captaincalculator.com/sports/cricket/net-run-rate-calculator/

    You can mess around with the numbers on here. Scotland's NRR sits at 2.164 so that's the magic number to beat.
  • With England's batting, surely batting first and flaying the Oman bowlers everywhere would have been better?
  • Oman clearly struggling against our pace bowlers here.
  • edited June 13
    Oman clearly struggling against our pace bowlers here.
    Another wicket gone with the last ball of the power play.

    25-4 from 6 overs

    Topley 3-14-12-0
    Archer 2-6-12-2
    Wood 1-5-1-2

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  • 25-5, 6.1 overs

    Stumping off the first ball of Adil Rashid
  • 32-6, 8 overs

    Wood gets the batter to chop onto his stumps
  • With England's batting, surely batting first and flaying the Oman bowlers everywhere would have been better?
    Works both ways though doesn't it? If we bowl Oman out for 60 and then smash that in 5 overs it's just as good.
  • Oman’s strongest suit is 100% their bowling. Much better bet to skittle them. They are scared of Wood & Archer 
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