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Charlie Methven and Gavin Carter at Bromley Addicks
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PragueAddick said:valleynick66 said:Henry Irving said:valleynick66 said:PragueAddick said:valleynick66 said:PragueAddick said:Thanks for such a comprehensive write up @Henry Irving, very generous and collaborative spirit on display there 😉.
If you could pin things on here as you can on Twitter profiles, I'd suggest it should be this comment from CM:
"The EFL provide us with all the other teams budgets in October so we'll know for sure than but based on previous figures we're 4th in first team budget and 5th in wages."Their forecast for the coming season on some key metrics or actual /management accounts for last season or something else?
Also not sure why it’s shared or how it is used.Interesting regardless.
A few years back when I was on the Trust board I went to interview Erik Samuelson, the AFCW fan who was a finance bod and then CEO. He told me about it. The EFL clubs had agreed to share it, but only by division. He explained that it was very useful to set his own player wage budget. It helped them set a budget that would be 4th lowest in the division (then L1) and gave the manager a big incentive to finish 5th bottom. He turned his laptop screen towards me for a nano-second, just eneough for me to see it existed.
But that was I think 8 years ago, and I couldn't remember more details of how it was done, and now CM has filled in the gaps. It is basically the operating budget they submit, and it sounds like their cost-line descriptions are agreed for consistency. The clubs are anonymised but CEO's can guess. Especially this year for club no.1.
Now obviously clubs have to set their budgets for the coming season before this comes out so they use the previous season's data, making their own guesses about the changes based on who was promoted/relegated, and any other info such as new splashy ownership (or new distress, e.g.Reading).
I think it's an excellent idea myself.So to be clear each club shares its actual from last season on some pre defined categories / basis of calculation?And the reason CM says we are 4th (?) biggest spenders is because we assume this year will be similar to last year ?
But I guess at some point a team will spend more or less than previously.0 -
fenaddick said:Let’s start the petition now, Steve Davis for Chairman!0
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Gribbo said:blackpool72 said:Gribbo said:ElfsborgAddick said:Gribbo said:ElfsborgAddick said:fenaddick said:Watch the video and he's just stood next to Tracey Leaburn clapping the players off until A Mitchell and Aneke come by and give him a hug, it's really not a big deal and I'd much rather our players know the higher ups than have no idea who they are.
I do take your point as an aside.
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Elfs is tiny.
Private joke between him and me.2 -
valleynick66 said:PragueAddick said:valleynick66 said:Henry Irving said:valleynick66 said:PragueAddick said:valleynick66 said:PragueAddick said:Thanks for such a comprehensive write up @Henry Irving, very generous and collaborative spirit on display there 😉.
If you could pin things on here as you can on Twitter profiles, I'd suggest it should be this comment from CM:
"The EFL provide us with all the other teams budgets in October so we'll know for sure than but based on previous figures we're 4th in first team budget and 5th in wages."Their forecast for the coming season on some key metrics or actual /management accounts for last season or something else?
Also not sure why it’s shared or how it is used.Interesting regardless.
A few years back when I was on the Trust board I went to interview Erik Samuelson, the AFCW fan who was a finance bod and then CEO. He told me about it. The EFL clubs had agreed to share it, but only by division. He explained that it was very useful to set his own player wage budget. It helped them set a budget that would be 4th lowest in the division (then L1) and gave the manager a big incentive to finish 5th bottom. He turned his laptop screen towards me for a nano-second, just eneough for me to see it existed.
But that was I think 8 years ago, and I couldn't remember more details of how it was done, and now CM has filled in the gaps. It is basically the operating budget they submit, and it sounds like their cost-line descriptions are agreed for consistency. The clubs are anonymised but CEO's can guess. Especially this year for club no.1.
Now obviously clubs have to set their budgets for the coming season before this comes out so they use the previous season's data, making their own guesses about the changes based on who was promoted/relegated, and any other info such as new splashy ownership (or new distress, e.g.Reading).
I think it's an excellent idea myself.So to be clear each club shares its actual from last season on some pre defined categories / basis of calculation?And the reason CM says we are 4th (?) biggest spenders is because we assume this year will be similar to last year ?
But I guess at some point a team will spend more or less than previously.
Of course, if Liverpool sell Gomez our numbers might change and so might the budget at other clubs but for now it's an indication of where we are compared to other lge 1 clubs.1 -
I *think* that's him running down the stairs at the full time whistle. I'd rather see him passionate like that than not giving a toss like RD did.10
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ElfsborgAddick said:fenaddick said:Watch the video and he's just stood next to Tracey Leaburn clapping the players off until A Mitchell and Aneke come by and give him a hug, it's really not a big deal and I'd much rather our players know the higher ups than have no idea who they are.
***Edit, wtf is he on the pitch? Good grief.1 -
blackpool72 said:Gribbo said:blackpool72 said:Gribbo said:ElfsborgAddick said:Gribbo said:ElfsborgAddick said:fenaddick said:Watch the video and he's just stood next to Tracey Leaburn clapping the players off until A Mitchell and Aneke come by and give him a hug, it's really not a big deal and I'd much rather our players know the higher ups than have no idea who they are.
I do take your point as an aside.
🤣
Elfs is tiny.
Private joke between him and me.0 -
ElfsborgAddick said:blackpool72 said:Gribbo said:blackpool72 said:Gribbo said:ElfsborgAddick said:Gribbo said:ElfsborgAddick said:fenaddick said:Watch the video and he's just stood next to Tracey Leaburn clapping the players off until A Mitchell and Aneke come by and give him a hug, it's really not a big deal and I'd much rather our players know the higher ups than have no idea who they are.
I do take your point as an aside.
🤣
Elfs is tiny.
Private joke between him and me.2 -
995632 said:ElfsborgAddick said:fenaddick said:Watch the video and he's just stood next to Tracey Leaburn clapping the players off until A Mitchell and Aneke come by and give him a hug, it's really not a big deal and I'd much rather our players know the higher ups than have no idea who they are.
***Edit, wtf is he on the pitch? Good grief.
And Brighton.
And just about any club that has any kind of success at Wembley (as we once did), when the owners etc. are all over the players as they got up to lift the cup (as our owners once did).
List goes on
Knocking Methven and the others for getting involved with the celebrating when we win is ludicrous imo27 -
Love that CM was on the pitch.7
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I have no doubt Charlie has a real connection with us. Why not. Did we think Richard Murray was faking his delight in that famous photo with Kins lifting the trophy ? Was Sir Chris disingenuous in his passion for us just because he’s a spurs fan to Murray’s Wolves. One thing we can say about Methven and that he’s a football man. I’m chuffed he’s passion for us is on display.12
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ShootersHillGuru said:I have no doubt Charlie has a real connection with us. Why not. Did we think Richard Murray was faking his delight in that famous photo with Kins lifting the trophy ? Was Sir Chris disingenuous in his passion for us just because he’s a spurs fan to Murray’s Wolves. One thing we can say about Methven and that he’s a football man. I’m chuffed he’s passion for us is on display.
Seems like he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't...10 -
J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’5
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AFKABartram said:J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’10
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AFKABartram said:J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’
None of us on here is involved in any way on the football side - just sayin'
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AFKABartram said:J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’
Or are we saying he should be confined to the office at all times?
When did we become so hard nosed? ;-)8 -
carly burn said:AFKABartram said:J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’
Or are we saying he should be confined to the office at all times?
When did we become so hard nosed? ;-)0 -
AFKABartram said:carly burn said:AFKABartram said:J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’
Or are we saying he should be confined to the office at all times?
When did we become so hard nosed? ;-)14 -
Passion v Attention - to be discussed in the next xx pages of this thread.4
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Rothko said:fenaddick said:Rothko said:what video?
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I think that CM will definitely get excited and pleased when we win, he has shares in the club and if we are successful and get promoted, especially if by some miracle we get into the Premier League, his shares will be worth a lot more.
His heart may be with Oxford but his wallet is with us
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We're definitely a tough old crowd. Unless you're an ex player, returning to help take points off us, then you have to show them the utmost respect and possible even give them their own round of applause0
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No view, but if you didn’t run down the stairs at the final whistle you!d struggle get through the crowd coming up.0
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😂 the bloke just can’t win with our fans ! Shows a bit of passion and gets slated ! If he sat motionless seemingly not caring then he is obviously an Oxford mole 😂 😂 😂18
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AndyG said:😂 the bloke just can’t win with our fans ! Shows a bit of passion and gets slated ! If he sat motionless seemingly not caring then he is obviously an Oxford mole 😂 😂 😂
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AFKABartram said:J BLOCK said:Love that CM was on the pitch.He described himself two days earlier as not getting involved in any way on the football side, he was ‘just the budgets guy’Slightly off topic, but I also absolutely loved the yanks celebrating when they were over. Having people involved who genuinely care about something we are all so passionate about, gives me a good feeling.12
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charltonbob said:Rothko said:fenaddick said:Rothko said:what video?
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SoundAsa£ said:charltonbob said:Rothko said:fenaddick said:Rothko said:what video?
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I’d feel like I was cheating celebrating publicly any other clubs success , I want failure everywhere but Charlton
you gotta fake it to make it0 -
Considering we’ve had appalling ownership over the years I think Charlie going on the pitch shouldn’t be a major issue lol8