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Away fans housed in West Stand Upper - Testing in 25/26 season

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  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,638
    Have no problem with this. Used to stand and sit in the JS occasionally. Charge higher prices for away fans like at other grounds. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    DOUCHER said:
    shine166 said:
    cabbie8 said:
    I’d like to see the north upper fans/noise closer to the pitch and situated in the north lower. I had a conversation with Bowyer previously and he wanted this to happen for same reasons 
    They are poor seats compared to uptop or fans would have naturally moved down.
    and as has been said on many occasions, you need to be close to the roof to get an atmosphere going  
    yep, exactly why the JS makes so much noise
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Depends what division we’re in, but a lot of clubs are sticking away fans in corners of the stands that aren’t behind the goals now.  I hadn’t realised Southampton had changed it until seeing them on MOTD this season, Leeds, M’boro are few others that spring to mind.  

    If we’re in the championship, I think most teams will bring a support warranting the JS stand.  I can’t think of any Championship teams that could use the West Upper where they don’t take up a sizeable allocation, plus the barrier covering you then need to split the home fans 

    If we’re still in League One; then we’ve all seen some of the paltry away followings.  Is it worth having a whole stand open for that?  It would look a bit odd if closed completely, and do we warrant the crowds for a few home fans to sit in the JS

    it worked for me when we first went back to the valley because the covered end and the west stand were small (compared to today), and the East was yet to be finished 

    I think we still had access to the JS when the East was built, but again, we had a smaller stadium 

    We just need to get out of this league.  In the Championship the crowds would look good again (to an extent) regardless of where the away fans are 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,230
    edited March 20
    Has anyone asked the Police?


  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Have no problem with this. Used to stand and sit in the JS occasionally. Charge higher prices for away fans like at other grounds. 
    You want to see an empty stand? 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,562
    Great idea. The acoustics in the South stand make the away fans sound immense so plonking them in the upper West has got to be a positive for us.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    cabbie8 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    cabbie8 said:
    I’d like to see the north upper fans/noise closer to the pitch and situated in the north lower. I had a conversation with Bowyer previously and he wanted this to happen for same reasons 
    why would those in north upper move to a worse view ?
    Is it a worse view? 
    Yes, without doubt.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Thought @Airman Brown always maintained that closing parts of the ground doesn’t really save money 
    Home stands principally.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Imagine next season we get promoted and Millwall fans in the Upper West Stand.
    Did you read the announcement?
    Obviously not.
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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,470
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    clive said:
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
    Yes but only when we play the minnows I think is what it’s saying - makes sense to me 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    I can only assume it’s the brain child of one of the seemingly many outgoing employees and it’s their parting gift. 

    Nonsense idea which will do more harm than good. 

    Penny pinching in the extreme. 

    Will assume the fans  forum / supporter liaison role will quash it. Or maybe CAST could do something more tangible than a survey ?

    cabbie8 said:
    MrOneLung said:
    cabbie8 said:
    I’d like to see the north upper fans/noise closer to the pitch and situated in the north lower. I had a conversation with Bowyer previously and he wanted this to happen for same reasons 
    why would those in north upper move to a worse view ?
    Is it a worse view? 
    Yes, without doubt.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    I can only assume it’s the brain child of one of the seemingly many outgoing employees and it’s their parting gift. 

    Nonsense idea which will do more harm than good. 

    Penny pinching in the extreme. 

    Will assume the fans  forum / supporter liaison role will quash it. Or maybe CAST could do something more tangible than a survey ?
    If CAST get involved it would 100% be a survey.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    DOUCHER said:
    clive said:
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
    Yes but only when we play the minnows I think is what it’s saying - makes sense to me 
    Why would you want to see an empty stand ?

    It means you move a few home supporters to accommodate a few away supporters to save a few quid. 

    It’s nonsense. A true lose lose scenario. 

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    DOUCHER said:
    clive said:
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
    Yes but only when we play the minnows I think is what it’s saying - makes sense to me 
    Why would you want to see an empty stand ?

    It means you move a few home supporters to accommodate a few away supporters to save a few quid. 

    It’s nonsense. A true lose lose scenario. 

    Not bothered for a few games really tbh and if it gives us flexibility to use the JS as well or give an extra area for away fans if they can sell extra then it makes sense - bothers me more seeing half full east and west stands 
  • ArmchairAddick
    ArmchairAddick Posts: 418
    edited March 20
    I always think you should look at this in the "what if it was me" view.  If I was going to be stuffed up in a corner at an away game I wouldn't bother going. 

    I think the game atmosphere overall is going to suffer if you leave the Jimmy Seed empty.  Having people opposite to shout at is much more fun 😆

    Edit: shout not shoot 😜 although .....
  • last_line
    last_line Posts: 574
    Sewing the seed early so it can be done for Burton on the last day if there's a chance of automatic promotion?
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  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    I always think you should look at this in the "what if it was me" view.  If I was going to be stuffed up in a corner at an away game I wouldn't bother going. 

    I think the game atmosphere overall is going to suffer if you leave the Jimmy Seed empty.  Having people opposite to shoot at is much more fun 😆

    Luckily none of the home fans who currently sit there, think the same
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,922
    Makes sense if you put home fans in there, not to leave it empty though. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,039
    I look forward to us “becoming the UK's most cohesive, sustainable community-driven club”. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    se9addick said:
    I look forward to us “becoming the UK's most cohesive, sustainable community-driven club”. 
    Yeah and if we put away fans in the West upper they’ll be able to hear us when we gloat and taunt them about it 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    clive said:
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
    Yes but only when we play the minnows I think is what it’s saying - makes sense to me 
    Why would you want to see an empty stand ?

    It means you move a few home supporters to accommodate a few away supporters to save a few quid. 

    It’s nonsense. A true lose lose scenario. 

    Not bothered for a few games really tbh and if it gives us flexibility to use the JS as well or give an extra area for away fans if they can sell extra then it makes sense - bothers me more seeing half full east and west stands 
    That’s isn’t the suggestion. 

    The stand will be fully closed. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    se9addick said:
    I look forward to us “becoming the UK's most cohesive, sustainable community-driven club”. 
    How we know when we achieve this ?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,073
    As long as you are not sitting in lower west of course and getting all sorts lobbed at you.


    Fair point, I had not thought of that.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    clive said:
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
    Yes but only when we play the minnows I think is what it’s saying - makes sense to me 
    Why would you want to see an empty stand ?

    It means you move a few home supporters to accommodate a few away supporters to save a few quid. 

    It’s nonsense. A true lose lose scenario. 

    Not bothered for a few games really tbh and if it gives us flexibility to use the JS as well or give an extra area for away fans if they can sell extra then it makes sense - bothers me more seeing half full east and west stands 
    That’s isn’t the suggestion. 

    The stand will be fully closed. 
    No it doesn’t say that, it talks about home fans in there possibly - you’ve assumed it will be shut 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,470
    se9addick said:
    I look forward to us “becoming the UK's most cohesive, sustainable community-driven club”. 
    How we know when we achieve this ?
    When we are playing at Dulwich Hamlet in the Isthmian League.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,073
    clive said:
    Is the intention to stick away fans from smaller clubs in the west stand, so that the JS can be closed? Or so that we can put home fans in the JS?

    If it's to totally close the JS then i think it's a bit shit. I'd rather see 200 Crawley fans in the away end than have a totally empty stand.
     Yes

    For a few games next season against clubs with smaller away support, we may close the Jimmy Seed Stand and temporarily place away fans in the south end of the West Stand Upper. 
    My old season ticket was in the section they'd want to pass over to the away fans.  
    I'd not be pleased being moved on 'x' occasions.
    It would also be a nightmare for the ticket office sorting this successfully.
    When they did this for the Bournemouth game there was loads of problems.
    I ended up getting hospitality for the Rotherham home game the following season as an apology.