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Smoke Free Pubs

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  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    [cite]Posted By: suzisausage[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]
    It means alot to me, being able to have a smoke free pint. I no longer get that urge for a cigarette and, in the words of James Brown, I feel good. Its a truly wonderful feeling. Honestly, try giving up for a day and see how much better you feel.

    when i gave up for 2 years. i didn't notice a difference. nothing tasted better, i couldn't all of a sudden run further, my skin wasn't any better, it wasnt bad in the first place. nothing changed !

    they are just incentives (fake ones) to make people believe that giving up is good (which it is for your insides) but really....how different do you really feel?

    you're just high from your minty chewing gum!!! :-)

    I know. Whats worrying is its sugar free chewing gum.

    I'm not anticipating that giving up smoking will in any way, dramatically better me. I just feel good, knowing that I'm a better person for not smoking, and having the heart, desire and mental strength to just stop. Its a mental thing really, as opposed to a physical thing.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    disclaimers: so that would mean legal prostitution and all sorts?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]ive not had a fag since sunday... i dont feel any different

    Precisely. So why smoke???

    Because I enjoy it.

    [cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]stu why cant you smoke indoors???

    Technically it's a work place.
    [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]What about the staff that have to work there, its all about litigation, employee rights etc. which necessitated a ban.

    Work somewhere else if it's that much of a problem?
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    [cite]Posted By: suzisausage[/cite]only thing i hate about smoking is in a restaurant or whilst eating in a garden. never smoked around eaters. and expected others to do the same. apart from that, smoke away!

    That as well used to wind me up.

    Don't want to come across as sexist, but I always felt a little uneasy smoking around women as well. Can't explain that one.
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]What about the staff that have to work there, its all about litigation, employee rights etc. which necessitated a ban.

    Work somewhere else if it's that much of a problem?

    Good one :-) (I'm assuming that was a joke)
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    edited July 2007
    No, I'm deadly serious, if I felt my work place was bad for my health, I'd work somewhere else.
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    I wouldn't. I'd fight tooth and nail to improve conditions. In fairness, the smoking ban does improve peoples working conditions.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    Not if their a smoker it doesnt.
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    Smoking is harmful to your health. By banning it in work places, are you not creating a healthier work place. Ie. A better workplace?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]Smoking is harmful to your health. By banning it in work places, are you not creating a healthier work place. Ie. A better workplace?

    Working conditions and healthier conditions are not the same though, I know which I'd prefer.
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  • carlingaddick
    carlingaddick Posts: 1,030
    Im loving the smoke free pubs!!

    best decision made in a long time!!!
  • Ledge
    Ledge Posts: 7,179
    going out for a FEW tomorrow night so looking forward to it for 2 reasons . 1 to get pissed 2. to go home not smelling of smoke.
  • Morts-Genius
    Morts-Genius Posts: 967
    Must admit, I was impressed when I went on a Stag do to Cork! (early this year)
    Clothes not stinky (apart from pants)!

    Went to We anchor for grub tonight and noticed the cleaner atmosphere.
    It was very busy too!
    Non smokers are defo coming out in force.
    The wife will have no excuses for taking the kids to the pub for a beer and meet up with the lads!!!
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    Smoke free pubs are great :-)
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    so i went out last night for a quick bite to eat in wagas then for some drinks around london with my best mate. chose some terrible places to go, but did notice a difference this morning when i didn't have to wash my hair as it didn't stink.

    weird. not craving cigs now, as i'm ill, which is bad, but good at the same time as it'll stop me wanting to smoke!
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    Bradleys should be a great place to go now :-)
    Great little bar, but smokey as hell before.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    ....Has anyone heard of any person dying from not having a cigarette?
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    [cite]Posted By: Solidgone[/cite]....Has anyone heard of any person dying from not having a cigarette?

    Too true.
  • Salad
    Salad Posts: 10,189
    edited July 2007
    Suzi - have you heard Richard Hawley?

    I've been listening to 'Coles Corner' recently and it is amazing - he has a deep, mellifluous voice .... Roy Orbison meets Ian McCulloch meets Frank Sinatra meets Morrissey meets Elvis

    When they collected their Mercury Prize, one of the Arctic Monkeys said "someone call the police, Richard Hawley has been robbed"
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]Smoking is harmful to your health. By banning it in work places, are you not creating a healthier work place. Ie. A better workplace?

    Working conditions and healthier conditions are not the same though, I know which I'd prefer.

    Of course. But the majority prefer the healthier conditions. Hence why it was brought in.
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  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    edited July 2007
    How many people roughly in Scotland and Ireland lost their jobs because the pubs they worked in had to close down due to loss of income, as a direct result of the smoking ban, that to me is far, far worse.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    It's bollocks the smoking ban, typical British government, small minded PR induced bullshit.

    Every single pub I have been to since it come in has been dead in comparison to what it would be like previously. All the non-smokers who didn't use pubs before that are going in them now will soon let the novelty wear off.

    And a lot of older smokers are not bothering with pubs now because instead of being able to keep themselves to themselves and smoke in peace they now have to go out into (what can be) a quite intimidating atmosphere of people they don't know crowded into a small area.

    It is absolute bullshit. We are all slowly going to hell in a handcart
  • cunningstunt87
    cunningstunt87 Posts: 1,100
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Stu of SE7[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]Smoking is harmful to your health. By banning it in work places, are you not creating a healthier work place. Ie. A better workplace?

    Working conditions and healthier conditions are not the same though, I know which I'd prefer.

    Of course. But the majority prefer the healthier conditions. Hence why it was brought in.

    How many people roughly in Scotland and Ireland lost their jobs because the pubs they worked in had to close down due to loss of income, as a direct result of the smoking ban, that to me is far, far worse.

    No idea is the honest answer. But is that the employees fault, the governments fault, or due to the indiscipline of people not being able to go a couple of hours without a ciggie?
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    it will all end in anarchy i tell you.

    sunday night i was in the Tapas in charlton (which is also a thai place now) and they have an accoustic night every other sunday. at one stage in the evening the musicians (playing one cello and two guitars) went out into the street to play to the smokers as the majority were outside... you can imagine the neighbours delight in this! was funny tho.

    whoever said your hangovers arent as bad when you dont smoke was a LIAR!!!!

    im loving it
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    [cite]Posted By: Salad[/cite]Suzi - have you heard Richard Hawley?

    I've been listening to 'Coles Corner' recently and it is amazing - he has a deep, mellifluous voice .... Roy Orbison meets Ian McCulloch meets Frank Sinatra meets Morrissey meets Elvis

    When they collected their Mercury Prize, one of the Arctic Monkeys said "someone call the police, Richard Hawley has been robbed"

    heard of him, haven't heard his stuff.
    i'm currently getting copies of: Concretes, chem bros, cribs, sfa, justice, white stripes, pigeon detectives, sunshine underground and the little ones albums.
    and getting a mix tape of songs from the following: rev & makers, jack pen, kate nash, rumblestrips, enemy, adele, ting tings.
    i bought the bees, css, the holloways and get cape wear cape fly. but still loving candi payne at the mo!! have you heard her????
    will ask if he can put some richard hawley on it!

    currently i'm in rock mode, as going to see metallica on sunday :-)
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    [cite]Posted By: cunningstunt87[/cite]

    No idea is the honest answer. But is that the employees fault, the governments fault, or due to the indiscipline of people not being able to go a couple of hours without a ciggie?


    The governments fault, its a stupid dictatorial law.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,220
    does anyone know what suzi is talking about?
  • F-Blocker
    F-Blocker Posts: 3,409
    [cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]does anyone know what suzi is talking about?
    Does Suzi??? ;o)

    How did you cope last night?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    [cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]does anyone know what suzi is talking about?

    Bad music, apart from the last line ;-)
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    It's nothing to do with people indiscipline, if they are given a break to have a smoke why wouldn't they take it????

    It's all to do with a big brother government wanting to control everything the people do. Was this voted on?? No, so how can it be a democratic thing to do.

    People who work in pubs moaning about working in a smoky environment doesn't wash with me. Work somewhere else. Non-smokers in smoking pubs should accept that those places are going to be slightly smoky. Same as smokers should accept not smoking in non-smoking establishments.

    And out of interest, if this government PR stunt does what they claim they want which is to stop everyone smoking. Where do you think that lost tax revenue will be made up from?

    And don't start the argument that smokers cost more to the NHS more than your next person, because the amount of tax they put in more than pays for any treatment they might one day recieve.

    Should fat people be banned from eating in public places? If I took the view that people seem to have towards smoking (it offends them) then I would say absolutely as seeing a bismark-like human shovel food into their mouth offends me more than smoking.