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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    He might as well open - he is batting soon after we start anyway!

    Leave Root where he is - its working for him at 5 , no point moving him.

    He came into bat at 154 at Notts, 70 and 71 at Lords - so, not quite coming in to bat 'soon after we start' .
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Covered End said:

    Trott had another episode/set back/attack, just after the season started. So personally, I think England have enough problems, without recalling Trott, who is obviously not fully recovered.
    Personally, I don't think he'll ever play for England again. Why should he risk his health further, to play for an England team in turmoil ?

    Asie from the fact that the money he would get playing for England is HUGE in comparison to what he would get playing for Warks.
  • markwebb25
    markwebb25 Posts: 718
    @The_President yes really, personally I think it looks a bit light. Your essentially relying on 3seamers and some part-timers to bowl a team out twice.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Sorry, no Test team would start with only 3 seamers & a part time spinner.
    Also, if you gave Trott the option to play in this series, I'm very confident he would say no thanks.
    Health, is more important than money.
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Would like to see Chris Woakes given a chance in the side, and would love to see Stokes dropped!

    Hopeful line-up for Sunday:
    Cook, Robson, Ballance, Bell, Root, Ali, Buttler, Woakes, Jordan, Plunkett, Anderson
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2014
    Ben18 said:

    Would like to see Chris Woakes given a chance in the side, and would love to see Stokes dropped!

    Hopeful line-up for Sunday:
    Cook, Robson, Ballance, Bell, Root, Ali, Buttler, Woakes, Jordan, Plunkett, Anderson

    Please no Woakes - just a Civilian medium dobber. Would def not take 20 wickets with him playing.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    markwebb25 said:

    @The_President yes really, personally I think it looks a bit light. Your essentially relying on 3seamers and some part-timers to bowl a team out twice.

    Ah ok, you're referring to Damos pick , as opposed to the actual squad picked - in which case i agree.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    The_President said:

    Ben18 said:

    Would like to see Chris Woakes given a chance in the side, and would love to see Stokes dropped!

    Hopeful line-up for Sunday:
    Cook, Robson, Ballance, Bell, Root, Ali, Buttler, Woakes, Jordan, Plunkett, Anderson

    Please no Woakes - just a Civilian medium dobber. Would def not take 20 wickets with him playing.
    Agree, Woakes has apparently picked up some more pace but still seemed a long way off Test level when he played last year.

    What we REALLY need is a spinner, if only Monty had not taken up with the turps!
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Ormiston Addick said:

    The_President said:

    Ben18 said:

    Would like to see Chris Woakes given a chance in the side, and would love to see Stokes dropped!

    Hopeful line-up for Sunday:
    Cook, Robson, Ballance, Bell, Root, Ali, Buttler, Woakes, Jordan, Plunkett, Anderson

    Please no Woakes - just a Civilian medium dobber. Would def not take 20 wickets with him playing.
    Agree, Woakes has apparently picked up some more pace but still seemed a long way off Test level when he played last year.

    What we REALLY need is a spinner, if only Monty had not taken up with the turps!
    Lets hope he gets back on song before next season, we need him for The Ashes.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Covered End said:

    Sorry, no Test team would start with only 3 seamers & a part time spinner.

    Stokes doesn't count then?
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2014
    We need a few to step up for next season, else we are gonna be toast.
    Aas Warney said, if we are going to struggle big time with Bouncers against 83 mph, imagine when Johnson,Harris,Pattinson and Cummins are bowling at you. !
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    Being bounced out by Sharma was pretty embarrassing. Not exactly like facing the W Indies in the 1980s on those bouncy uneven pitches!

    Woakes may be a bit of a Dobber, but so is Kumar, it boils down to how much skill and control you have with the ball
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    edited July 2014
    Robson
    Moeen Ali
    Ballance
    Bell
    Root
    Cook
    Buttler
    Jordan
    Broad
    Plunkett
    Anderson
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,934
    If Stuart Meaker had managed a couple of injury free years he would be ahead of stokes woakes plunkett and Jordan in the pecking order! genuinely quick, regularly over 90mph and can bat a bit!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Callumcafc said:

    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?

    Bresnan got sussed as another dobber. Finn going through crisis (bit like Trott, Panesar, and a few others no doubt)
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    killerandflash said:

    Being bounced out by Sharma was pretty embarrassing. Not exactly like facing the W Indies in the 1980s on those bouncy uneven pitches!

    Woakes may be a bit of a Dobber, but so is Kumar, it boils down to how much skill and control you have with the ball

    Answered your own - clearly Woakes doesnt have the skill that Kumar has.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?

    Bresnan got sussed as another dobber. Finn going through crisis (bit like Trott, Panesar, and a few others no doubt)
    Very harsh of Bresnan. He could swing a ball as well as most and could always chip in with a few runs.

    I've heard a story about Finn and a certain glamour model.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    colthe3rd said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?

    Bresnan got sussed as another dobber. Finn going through crisis (bit like Trott, Panesar, and a few others no doubt)
    Very harsh of Bresnan. He could swing a ball as well as most and could always chip in with a few runs.

    I've heard a story about Finn and a certain glamour model.
    Did she brush against his stumps and dislodge his bails? Was she impressed with his good length?
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,902
    killerandflash said:

    colthe3rd said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?

    Bresnan got sussed as another dobber. Finn going through crisis (bit like Trott, Panesar, and a few others no doubt)
    Very harsh of Bresnan. He could swing a ball as well as most and could always chip in with a few runs.

    I've heard a story about Finn and a certain glamour model.
    Did she brush against his stumps and dislodge his bails? Was she impressed with his good length?
    no by all accounts he put in a couple of short ones but couldnt get it beyond waist height

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,857
    Compton for Cook
    Jordan for Stokes.

    Maybe onions to give one of the other bowlers a rest if got nighling injury.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    lolwray said:

    killerandflash said:

    colthe3rd said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?

    Bresnan got sussed as another dobber. Finn going through crisis (bit like Trott, Panesar, and a few others no doubt)
    Very harsh of Bresnan. He could swing a ball as well as most and could always chip in with a few runs.

    I've heard a story about Finn and a certain glamour model.
    Did she brush against his stumps and dislodge his bails? Was she impressed with his good length?
    no by all accounts he put in a couple of short ones but couldnt get it beyond waist height

    She wanted it full and straight, but unfortunately he missed the target and it bent away
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Judging by the way Steve Finn has bowled tonight , lets get him into the squad...pronto.
    Quick, vicious, wickets !
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Also, Ravi Patel ! - who says we arent producing spinners !!
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Finn 2-20odd and Ravi Patel 2-16 - both looked VERY impressive, Patel can certainly spin it and obviously has lots of control too.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,934
    edited July 2014
    The_President said:

    Judging by the way Steve Finn has bowled tonight , lets get him into the squad...pronto.
    Quick, vicious, wickets !

    How You can say that and not mention Meaker is beyond me! Far better in my view!
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    cantersaddick said:

    The_President said:

    Judging by the way Steve Finn has bowled tonight , lets get him into the squad...pronto.
    Quick, vicious, wickets !

    How y
    The_President said:

    Judging by the way Steve Finn has bowled tonight , lets get him into the squad...pronto.
    Quick, vicious, wickets !

    You can say that and not mention Meaker is beyond me! Far better in my view!
    lol - good point, only came in from work at half-time, so didnt see him bowl.
    What did you think of Finn and Patel ?

  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    tbh lets hope they are both (Finn and Meaker) playing v Oz next season along with Jimmy.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    lolwray said:

    killerandflash said:

    colthe3rd said:

    The_President said:

    Callumcafc said:

    Whatever happened to Bresnan and Finn?

    Bresnan got sussed as another dobber. Finn going through crisis (bit like Trott, Panesar, and a few others no doubt)
    Very harsh of Bresnan. He could swing a ball as well as most and could always chip in with a few runs.

    I've heard a story about Finn and a certain glamour model.
    Did she brush against his stumps and dislodge his bails? Was she impressed with his good length?
    no by all accounts he put in a couple of short ones but couldnt get it beyond waist height

    Apparently everytime he got near her he dislodged her bails
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,934
    The_President said:

    cantersaddick said:

    The_President said:

    Judging by the way Steve Finn has bowled tonight , lets get him into the squad...pronto.
    Quick, vicious, wickets !

    How y
    The_President said:

    Judging by the way Steve Finn has bowled tonight , lets get him into the squad...pronto.
    Quick, vicious, wickets !

    You can say that and not mention Meaker is beyond me! Far better in my view!
    lol - good point, only came in from work at half-time, so didnt see him bowl.
    What did you think of Finn and Patel ?

    Haha fair enough! Finn was good pace was back at his best and he seems to be past his problems.. Patel also impressed!

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