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  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them. I don't care if people believe what I believe or not but don't attack it when u have know idea about the subject!

    This is straight out of the conspiracy theoriest handbook isn't it? No offence but it's like the programmes they show on C5 or those moody channels on sky in the 'documentaries' section. Whenever a theory arises you have some one so hell bent on it being a cover up that when the 'evidence' is simply explained by an expert (with no affiliation btw) then they must not understand or they've been paid off by men in black suits.
    I guess the man at the visa department was making up the fact he was forced to let in the 9/11 hijackers then, probably did it for a joke didn't he?
    i wonder how many visas get pushed through for one reason or another in the states. AH MAH GAD, DA GUBBERMUNT WANT TO KILL USZ.

    The reason people attack conspiracy theorists, apart from their ridiculousness, is because it's extremely damaging. How would you feel if your husband/wife/son/daughter died in 9/11 and 7/7? How would you feel if you were buzz aldrin or neil armstrong or one of the thousands that worked on the moon landing and being told you were a pawn and your lifetime achievement, of which you worked so so hard for is a "fantasy". It's just keyboard activists and warriors and incredibly damaging.
    How would u feel if I told u 9/11 families agree that the official stories bs?
    how would you feel if your son/daughter/father/mother/wife/husband was murdered and some stranger came to you and gave you an outlet for your grief and anger, told you that the person to blame is some one you can hold accountable (the government) rather than some man in a mountain the other side of the world? I would want to believe that person. These are vulnerable people that are seduced by some crazy internet warrior wanting some attention.
    I feel sorry if u have kids. You stupid replaceable human being
    great arguement, i'm convinced. 9/11 was an inside job WAKE UP SHEEPLE
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    I don't see BHB99 lasting long at this rate...
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,991
    Innocent question - weren't many of the suggested causes of the Hillsborough Disaster conspiracy theories, until they were found to be correct by the Hillsborough Independent Panel?

    Very important to differentiate between people peddling nonsensical theories to create mischief, and people questioning what they are being told by the various organisations that are supposed to be looking after their interests - it would be very naive to believe that the official line is always the truth.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them.

    You stupid replaceable human being


  • Guys u disappoint me
  • Chizz said:

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them.

    You stupid replaceable human being


    I keep giving u guys facts If it can't sink into the brain I feel bad for u
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070

    If piezenik is such a weirdo, why did tom Clancy let him help write his books?

    Tom Clancy the fiction writer?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,238

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them. I don't care if people believe what I believe or not but don't attack it when u have know idea about the subject!

    I have looked at the so called "facts" and have done for many years and nearly none of them stand up to any proper scrutiny. Most aren't even facts just questions ie "why didn't so and so do this?"

    Any counter argument is dismissed as a cover up or the response is "but what about...." and so introducing yet another question. Because the conspiracy theorists can't imagine a reasonable answer with their limited and blinkered take on things it HAS to mean, in their minds, that anything can be true.

    Chesterton said "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything." I'm an atheist and a sceptic but I think he was right.

    Maybe you could try stop using the internet as reliable source of information or as proof and use Occum's razor instead.
    I listen to people like Steve pizchenik(however u spell his name) and mr spring man who know what they're talking about, as well as the 1000 architects and engineers who saw building 7 fall down by a small fire.
    Pieczenik is the man who claimed the Sandy Hook School Shooting was a conspiracy too wasn't he. Everything is a conspiracy in his world.

    He's just another weirdo making a living making up stuff to sell books and get on TV and you've fallen for it.
    Well he knows more than u about intelligence operations. What do u do for a job?
    I teach people that it is "you" not "U"

    But again you frame it as a question.

  • WSS said:

    If piezenik is such a weirdo, why did tom Clancy let him help write his books?

    Tom Clancy the fiction writer?
    Yeah the same way zero dark thirty is a piece of fiction.(The filmmakers collabarated with the CIA by the way)
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,362
    For the safety of all Charlton Life members I feel this thread should be closed before we become the next conspiracy theory.

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  • Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them. I don't care if people believe what I believe or not but don't attack it when u have know idea about the subject!

    I have looked at the so called "facts" and have done for many years and nearly none of them stand up to any proper scrutiny. Most aren't even facts just questions ie "why didn't so and so do this?"

    Any counter argument is dismissed as a cover up or the response is "but what about...." and so introducing yet another question. Because the conspiracy theorists can't imagine a reasonable answer with their limited and blinkered take on things it HAS to mean, in their minds, that anything can be true.

    Chesterton said "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything." I'm an atheist and a sceptic but I think he was right.

    Maybe you could try stop using the internet as reliable source of information or as proof and use Occum's razor instead.
    I listen to people like Steve pizchenik(however u spell his name) and mr spring man who know what they're talking about, as well as the 1000 architects and engineers who saw building 7 fall down by a small fire.
    Pieczenik is the man who claimed the Sandy Hook School Shooting was a conspiracy too wasn't he. Everything is a conspiracy in his world.

    He's just another weirdo making a living making up stuff to sell books and get on TV and you've fallen for it.
    Well he knows more than u about intelligence operations. What do u do for a job?
    I teach people that it is "you" not "U"

    But again you frame it as a question.

    So instead of answering the question YOU insult my internet speech.
    Didn't know u were my fucking English teacher
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,238
    edited August 2014

    Chizz said:

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them.

    You stupid replaceable human being


    I keep giving u guys facts If it can't sink into the brain I feel bad for u
    No, you keep asking questions and using "u" instead of "you"

    Anyway, disproved the fact that you are a Palace fan yet.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    MrLargo said:

    Innocent question - weren't many of the suggested causes of the Hillsborough Disaster conspiracy theories, until they were found to be correct by the Hillsborough Independent Panel?

    Very important to differentiate between people peddling nonsensical theories to create mischief, and people questioning what they are being told by the various organisations that are supposed to be looking after their interests - it would be very naive to believe that the official line is always the truth.

    This is a good point but Hillsborough was a cover up of an accidental event by incompetence by the old bill.

    Conspiracy theories like 9/11 or 7/7 are completely different as people are claiming that the government are covering up a pre planned event against its own people.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited August 2014

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them. I don't care if people believe what I believe or not but don't attack it when u have know idea about the subject!

    I have looked at the so called "facts" and have done for many years and nearly none of them stand up to any proper scrutiny. Most aren't even facts just questions ie "why didn't so and so do this?"

    Any counter argument is dismissed as a cover up or the response is "but what about...." and so introducing yet another question. Because the conspiracy theorists can't imagine a reasonable answer with their limited and blinkered take on things it HAS to mean, in their minds, that anything can be true.

    Chesterton said "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything." I'm an atheist and a sceptic but I think he was right.

    Maybe you could try stop using the internet as reliable source of information or as proof and use Occum's razor instead.
    I listen to people like Steve pizchenik(however u spell his name) and mr spring man who know what they're talking about, as well as the 1000 architects and engineers who saw building 7 fall down by a small fire.
    Pieczenik is the man who claimed the Sandy Hook School Shooting was a conspiracy too wasn't he. Everything is a conspiracy in his world.

    He's just another weirdo making a living making up stuff to sell books and get on TV and you've fallen for it.
    Well he knows more than u about intelligence operations. What do u do for a job?
    I teach people that it is "you" not "U"

    But again you frame it as a question.

    So instead of answering the question YOU insult my internet speech.
    Didn't know u were my fucking English teacher
    benhamersbeard99
    14/15 years old...
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    BenHamersBeard99 is a plant by the CIA to get this thread closed. WAKE UP SHEEPLE
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,176
    I always find it funny that people have a go about how useless their governments are, but then confer on them the ability to trick the entire world with an elaborate public murder scheme. You'd think if we were faking moon landings, engineering plane crashes and plotting explosions on public transport and then covering it up we could get the trains to run on time
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852
    I've worked it out - BHB99 is Matt-Himself. Clearly with developments at the shit hole he would find it hard to wind us up about football so he's taken a different tack.

    Clever - very clever.
  • Guess the charlton fanbase isn't as intelligent or questioning as I thought, my bad lads carry on
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    I always find it funny that people have a go about how useless their governments are, but then confer on them the ability to trick the entire world with an elaborate public murder scheme. You'd think if we were faking moon landings, engineering plane crashes and plotting explosions on public transport and then covering it up we could get the trains to run on time

    precisely. People are stupid. That extends to the people that run the government and intelligence services too.
  • Jaddick
    Jaddick Posts: 249
    edited August 2014
    Had no idea people thought 7/7 bombings were a conspiracy. Crazy world.

    Some conspiracies are harmless and people just want someone/something they can pin the blame on which I get, but some are just out right offensive. I just don't buy into these elaborate schemes that have fooled billions of people.

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,987
    edited August 2014
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,238
    MrLargo said:

    Innocent question - weren't many of the suggested causes of the Hillsborough Disaster conspiracy theories, until they were found to be correct by the Hillsborough Independent Panel?

    Very important to differentiate between people peddling nonsensical theories to create mischief, and people questioning what they are being told by the various organisations that are supposed to be looking after their interests - it would be very naive to believe that the official line is always the truth.

    I think that a cover up is quite different from a conspiracy theory but it rather proves the point that wrong doing can and often is revealed and investigated.

    Yet on something much bigger (in terms of people involved) such as the moon landing none of the 1000's of people involved have come forward and said "I worked on it, here's the proof, please give me money for the serial book rights"
  • Sonicstud85
    Sonicstud85 Posts: 2,161
    Have a snickers mate
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,238

    BenHamersBeard99 is a plant by the CIA to get this thread closed. WAKE UP SHEEPLE


    No, no, no.

    Conspiracy Theory for beginners KA

    "is Benhamersbeard99 a plant by the CIA?"

    : - )
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129

    If piezenik is such a weirdo, why did tom Clancy let him help write his books?

    His fictional books you mean?
  • Jaddick said:

    Had no idea people thought 7/7 bombings were a conspiracy. Crazy world.

    Some conspiracies are harmless and people just want someone/something they can pin the blame on which I get, but some are just out right offensive.

    The only offensive ones out there are holocaust deniers, and the conspiracy that all Jews are out to destroy the world. Otherwise if you find any other offensive u should man up and move on
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,470
    The biggest 'proven' conspiracy is probably the NSA or Operation Ajax.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129

    WSS said:

    If piezenik is such a weirdo, why did tom Clancy let him help write his books?

    Tom Clancy the fiction writer?
    Yeah the same way zero dark thirty is a piece of fiction.(The filmmakers collabarated with the CIA by the way)
    They took advice, the same as any half-decent writer does. They didn't collaborate.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,238
    edited August 2014

    Shame to see some not looking at the facts but just insulting people who think differently to them. I don't care if people believe what I believe or not but don't attack it when u have know idea about the subject!

    I have looked at the so called "facts" and have done for many years and nearly none of them stand up to any proper scrutiny. Most aren't even facts just questions ie "why didn't so and so do this?"

    Any counter argument is dismissed as a cover up or the response is "but what about...." and so introducing yet another question. Because the conspiracy theorists can't imagine a reasonable answer with their limited and blinkered take on things it HAS to mean, in their minds, that anything can be true.

    Chesterton said "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything." I'm an atheist and a sceptic but I think he was right.

    Maybe you could try stop using the internet as reliable source of information or as proof and use Occum's razor instead.
    I listen to people like Steve pizchenik(however u spell his name) and mr spring man who know what they're talking about, as well as the 1000 architects and engineers who saw building 7 fall down by a small fire.
    Pieczenik is the man who claimed the Sandy Hook School Shooting was a conspiracy too wasn't he. Everything is a conspiracy in his world.

    He's just another weirdo making a living making up stuff to sell books and get on TV and you've fallen for it.
    Well he knows more than u about intelligence operations. What do u do for a job?
    I teach people that it is "you" not "U"

    But again you frame it as a question.

    So instead of answering the question YOU insult my internet speech.
    Didn't know u were my fucking English teacher
    I would hate to be your English teacher. You got it right in the first sentence and wrong in the second.

    Anyway as a Palace fan what do you think about Warnock's return?