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Tony Watt to join Cardiff on loan (EDIT: Joined Until 16th January, Perm Deal Rumoured)

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,084
    It defies belief that we'd offer him to a relegation rival
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,054
    Beyond parody
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,071
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:

    cafctom said:

    So what happens when Reza 'gets the hump' again and wants to go the Middle East for a year like he did before?

    When Makienok gets injured, or goes back to Palermo in the Summer?

    When Lookman gets sold, or simply needs a rest as he is still so fresh to it all?

    Or when Vaz Te decides to go somewhere else in the Summer after his contract?


    Going by his ipswich performance, i'm sure we wouldn't miss him too much.
    Yes, but if he were playing to his potential he would be a real asset, and ultimately the job of a coach (even an interim one) is to coach his players to perform at their full potential. If it was just one bad apple then you'd say "best rid of him" but there are far, far too many players not performing to their potential at Charlton right now.

    We are weaker without a fully firing Watt.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,888
    soapboxsam said:

    Seeing Lennon's quote in the SL that Tony Watt was offered to Bolton before
    Cardiff but because they are Potless, they couldn't afford the derisory sum on offer.
    WTF ! why would you offer a player who can be a match winner,
    to one of the few clubs who are below us in the table.
    If Magic feet is a problem, why can't we have a grown up answer like
    "it is in the best interests of Tony and the club if he moves on.
    We wish him well in his future Career"

    It really isn't that difficult to have a relationship with the supporters

    Black and White, My Arse.

    Oh yes it is! And I had that problem as well mate when we run out of toilet paper :wink:
  • JohnfromNorfolk
    JohnfromNorfolk Posts: 1,324
    Was it an easy comment by Lennon to deflect criticism away from himself and his team?
    He was Tony Watt's manager at Celtic and rated him so highly, that he loaned him out and eventually sold him to S.L.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,880
    JohnfromNorfolk said:

    Was it an easy comment by Lennon to deflect criticism away from himself and his team?
    He was Tony Watt's manager at Celtic and rated him so highly, that he loaned him out and eventually sold him to S.L.

    This is what Lennon said of Watt at the time:

    Neil Lennon on Friday night insisted he has no plans to cut short Tony Watt’s loan spell in Belgium.

    The striker came off the bench to score twice in Lierse’s 3-0 derby triumph over Mechelen on Boxing Day.

    Ironically, Watt’s brace saved the job of coach Stanley Menzo, a public and vocal critic of the Scot’s attitude, fitness and training.

    Responding to suggestions Watt could save the Hoops’ boss cash by returning to Glasgow early, however, Lennon warned that’s not an option.

    He said: ‘I’ll speak to Tony over the next week or so, see how he is feeling and what the situation is.

    ‘But I’m not of a mind to bring him back just yet. We’ve loaned him for the year and I’d like him to see that one out.

    ‘We couldn’t put him out on loan anywhere else if he does come back, so that’s not crossed my mind.’

    ‘There’s an immaturity about Tony and the reason for putting him on loan was to see life at a different place,’ added Lennon.

    ‘We wanted him to sample a different culture and a different type of football. If it’s not going well, then he needs to knuckle down and make it work. The onus is on him.

    ‘I wasn’t aware of these problems [with Menzo] and I’ll need to speak to his agent over the next few days.

    ‘He can be a difficult boy at times but there’s no malice in him or anything like that. He just needs to knuckle down and make the most of the opportunity he has. When he’s finished, he will still be part of our plans for the future.

    ‘There’s no question that Tony has ability. He’s raw and just needs to polish it off a bit — and polish himself off as a fully-rounded figure. He definitely has ability.

    ‘He’s not a man yet. Some players take a bit longer to mature than others. Not physically, that’s in a mental aspect as well. But Tony is a good kid.    ’
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,032
    Cardiff City looking to sign Charlton loan star Tony Watt permanently in January alongside another striker
    Sources at the club say the Bluebirds’ hierarchy are already impressed and looking to sign Watt in January. Charlton are believed to want around £1m for the player who has fallen out of favour in south London.

    Noticed on the goal highlights on Sky tonight, Cardiff should have won when Watt ran into the penalty area with the ball, and instead of passing to a colleague unmarked for a certain goal, tried to do it himself and lost it. Never a team player
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,967
    edited December 2015
    Lincsaddick said:

    cafctom said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    cafctom said:

    So what happens when Reza 'gets the hump' again and wants to go the Middle East for a year like he did before?

    When Makienok gets injured, or goes back to Palermo in the Summer?

    When Lookman gets sold, or simply needs a rest as he is still so fresh to it all?

    Or when Vaz Te decides to go somewhere else in the Summer after his contract?

    f f s .. what if a meteorite falls on Sparrow Lane during training and wipes out the entire squad ?
    doom mongers likje you get
    So you think any of those four strikers we have are highly likely to be sticking around next season then?
    I can no more see into the future than you can .. a lot depends on results this season and the type of contract the player has .. BigMak started well but seems now to lack the bottle for the fight .. Vaz Te is on a short deal .. Reza and Lookman ? .. I have no idea .. BUT .. as I repeat ad nauseum, I've seen worse times than this .. the club will not go under and quite frankly all this doom mongering is getting VERY boring ... players come and players go .. we will see, getting your knickers in a terrible twist will change nothing and will only be bad for your health ..
    Spot on. Sometimes it's a bit like reading the headline on the front page of the daily mail on here "warning: too much fresh air will kill you......"
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,032
    Cardiff City are confident of keeping Charlton striker Tony Watt beyond his loan deal, BBC Wales Sport understand.
    Watt, 21, has scored twice in five appearances since joining from Charlton on a deal due to expire on 16 January.
    Senior sources now say a deal is in place for the former Celtic striker to make a permanent switch to Cardiff.
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,738
    Another nail in our coffin methinks

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  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,584
    ross1 said:

    Cardiff City are confident of keeping Charlton striker Tony Watt beyond his loan deal, BBC Wales Sport understand.
    Watt, 21, has scored twice in five appearances since joining from Charlton on a deal due to expire on 16 January.
    Senior sources now say a deal is in place for the former Celtic striker to make a permanent switch to Cardiff.

    zero faith that we have struck a good deal. Amateur hour strikes again
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    edited December 2015
    he's gone, he aint coming back .. the issue is just how much we'll get for him and will that fee be used to buy some desperately needed experience and quality, even for the short term, to get us out of this mess

    EDIT: Reports that Chas Austin will be sold in January .. get him in Roland .. if only
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Another half truth for the regime.....not ad verbatim but it was something like -" we sent him out to get game time, and yes I hope to see him back here after 16th January, we will see what happens" or in other words "no he is not coming back we are selling him as we have a good squad and don't need him"

    What a joke we have become...no strikers of experience, injuries, loss of form etc. etc..... and we move him on....unbelievable!!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    edited December 2015
    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
    Three and a half years. (signed in January)
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    Atletico Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
    Three and a half years. (signed in January)
    well then .. if we play 'hard ball' more than a million could be squeezed out especially as Cardiff is desperate for promotion .. they have recalled Revell from his loan at Wigan, this is a symptom of their desperation, Le Fondre and Jones rarely last the full 90, any club looking for real success needs at least four robust strikers.. lastly, Cardiff is a wealthy club .. let's see the colour of their cash .. 3 million for Watt or find someone else
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,953
    Our bigger problems are at the back. Ideally we'd have both Watt and reinforcement to central defence and midfield, but the latter is more important
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
    Three and a half years. (signed in January)
    well then .. if we play 'hard ball' more than a million could be squeezed out especially as Cardiff is desperate for promotion .. they have recalled Revell from his loan at Wigan, this is a symptom of their desperation, Le Fondre and Jones rarely last the full 90, any club looking for real success needs at least four robust strikers.. lastly, Cardiff is a wealthy club .. let's see the colour of their cash .. 3 million for Watt or find someone else
    Sounds good when you say it out loud Lincs, but it isn't really very likely is it?
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
    Three and a half years. (signed in January)
    well then .. if we play 'hard ball' more than a million could be squeezed out especially as Cardiff is desperate for promotion .. they have recalled Revell from his loan at Wigan, this is a symptom of their desperation, Le Fondre and Jones rarely last the full 90, any club looking for real success needs at least four robust strikers.. lastly, Cardiff is a wealthy club .. let's see the colour of their cash .. 3 million for Watt or find someone else
    We're in no real position to play that game though unfortunately, Russell Slade and co. know exactly why we've offloaded him and know we want the cash - he won't simply squeeze back into our team. Don't imagine us getting more than 1.5m, unfortunately. But it shouldn't really sadden us, less money for RD suits me in one roundabout way...

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,380
    Cordoban Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
    Three and a half years. (signed in January)
    well then .. if we play 'hard ball' more than a million could be squeezed out especially as Cardiff is desperate for promotion .. they have recalled Revell from his loan at Wigan, this is a symptom of their desperation, Le Fondre and Jones rarely last the full 90, any club looking for real success needs at least four robust strikers.. lastly, Cardiff is a wealthy club .. let's see the colour of their cash .. 3 million for Watt or find someone else
    Sounds good when you say it out loud Lincs, but it isn't really very likely is it?
    Atletico Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Atletico Addick said:

    It'll probably be 1Mill (undisclosed). Be a good deal for them even if they can only get an honest season out of him.

    for how long is his CAFC contract ? .. I would have thought a million is a bit light .. but if the owner is desperate to get him off the books !!! .. who knows
    Three and a half years. (signed in January)
    well then .. if we play 'hard ball' more than a million could be squeezed out especially as Cardiff is desperate for promotion .. they have recalled Revell from his loan at Wigan, this is a symptom of their desperation, Le Fondre and Jones rarely last the full 90, any club looking for real success needs at least four robust strikers.. lastly, Cardiff is a wealthy club .. let's see the colour of their cash .. 3 million for Watt or find someone else
    We're in no real position to play that game though unfortunately, Russell Slade and co. know exactly why we've offloaded him and know we want the cash - he won't simply squeeze back into our team. Don't imagine us getting more than 1.5m, unfortunately. But it shouldn't really sadden us, less money for RD suits me in one roundabout way...
    I know gents .. wishful thinking at Christmas superseding any real possibility ((:<) ((:>)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,880
    I'm sure whatever we get for Watt, RD will benefit from the deal. Even more so if it is more than we "paid" for him.
  • Rob62
    Rob62 Posts: 1,200
    Watt's relationship with senior members of the squad was beyond repair. On this one it sounds like the right decision.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,637
    Rob62 said:

    Watt's relationship with senior members of the squad was beyond repair. On this one it sounds like the right decision.

    how do you know that?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    People need to remember in jan we would have no need for old ton anyway.

    We have super George coming back
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,872
    Attach a fair weight of probability to what @Rob62 posts LL
  • Rufus is a dogs name
    Rufus is a dogs name Posts: 1,519
    edited December 2015
    Given he has lamped at least a couple of senior players in the last few months he's well & truly burned his bridges so I don't think he's going to be coming back, unfortunately.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    lancashire lad said:

    Rob62 said:

    Watt's relationship with senior members of the squad was beyond repair. On this one it sounds like the right decision.

    how do you know that?
    Because people who are closer to it and know about it have told you / us so.
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  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,553
    Can we really have a situation where players who aren't liked within the squad are kicked out. Managing a team is about dealing with personalities and making them work together for the benefit of the club. Player power cannot be allowed to dismiss managers or fellow players. I wonder how our players would cope with someone like Cloughie as their manager.

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