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++++ Official manager rumours thread! ++++ (ed. Slade confirmed)

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  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    So basically we are never going to offer a manager a long contract, or the guarantee to sign the players they want?

    Welcome Nobby it is then.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    Ketts said the longest we have offered to a manager is 18 months, that is because we keep sacking the previous incumbent halfway through a season. I expect we are offering two years.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,388
    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    As mad as Roland is I doubt he offered a contract that would expire half way through next season.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,129
    What an utter shambles this club is.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited May 2016
    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    He told you this did he? He didn't want to swap Costa Del Rochdale for London?
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,344
    Scoham said:

    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    As mad as Roland is I doubt he offered a contract that would expire half way through next season.
    According to VOTV last season Luzon assistant's contract was a rolling 6 month deal, the place is mad
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,242
    sammy391 said:

    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    Where do you get off , making this crap up? Or did the GK coach/inside source tell you this again... :neutral:

    And once again , you've plagiarised "ketts"!
    What Ketts speculated upon was

    "But Nixon did not say that Charlton could not match his salary, he said they could not match his terms.‎

    Hill is probably confident that his contract will always be renewed by Dale. Roland Duchatelet does not give managers long contracts, an18 month deal is the longest he has given to any of the head coaches at The Valley.

    Could this be the sticking point? If so, will Duchatelet bend and offer Hill a long enough deal to tempt him, or will the club have to move on to another target? Discussions about a longer contract would certainly have caused a delay. ‎

    The next few days will be interesting for Valley watchers."

    http://www.cafcpicks.com/cgi-bin/drkish/display.pl?month=201605&date=20160529&time=0553

    But as ever with Colin he's reads something, mangles it in his brain and it then becomes not "could" but "did".

    Even as a WUM, which by his own words he is proud to be, he fails time and time again.
  • tony1234
    tony1234 Posts: 181
    What a total load of bollox this club has become
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,242

    Sick of this Colin bashing. Either take what he says as legit or not. It's easy. It doesn't need a swipe at every post he makes.

    It's not "bashing". He is, by his own words, proud to be a WUM. He makes up stuff and he steals others, usually Ketts, information and opinions.

    He is a rather sad specimen but that doesn't mean he should be allowed to get away with being a thief or WUM, even if he is a very poor at both.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745
    edited May 2016
    Wilder was offered good money for L1, much more than Colin claims, I've been told. The main stumbling block is likely to remain Meire and Duchatelet rather than money.
    But I doubt if they want to offer both good money and a long contract.

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Scoham said:
    Based on the drip of information and anecdotal evidence we have gleaned about this current search to appoint a new manager I think it's fairly clear that despite the regimes rhetoric, in reality they still don't have a clue about British football.

  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,897
    being interviewed by Meire is probably also a major stumbling block bearing in mind she is incompetent in her own position.
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,369

    Scoham said:
    Based on the drip of information and anecdotal evidence we have gleaned about this current search to appoint a new manager I think it's fairly clear that despite the regimes rhetoric, in reality they still don't have a clue about British football.

    that is clear. So where is Murray in all of this? what a load of shit our club has become
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740

    Wilder was offered good money for L1, much more than Colin claims, I've been told. The main stumbling block is likely to remain Meire and Duchatelet rather than money.
    But I doubt if they want to offer both good money and a long contract.

    If you want to listen to rumours, then stick to those from AB.

    FAR more likely to be closer to reality than other sources.

  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749
    sammy391 said:

    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    Where do you get off , making this crap up? Or did the GK coach/inside source tell you this again... :neutral:

    And once again , you've plagiarised "ketts"!
    Its a rumours thread ! People hear things from whatever source and state them as fact its the Charlton Life way. lay off the Colin bashing.
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,784
    Shrew said:

    sammy391 said:

    colin1961 said:

    sammy391 said:

    According to a journo up north , we couldn't/wouldn't even match Rochdale's Keith Hills salary/deal

    He never moved south and always worked up north the question is length of contract not wages there not a problem ..... He wants 3 year deal we offered 18 months ..... again it's the whole family thing he wants it worth while in up rooting his family ....

    Nothing to do with money .....
    Where do you get off , making this crap up? Or did the GK coach/inside source tell you this again... :neutral:

    And once again , you've plagiarised "ketts"!
    Its a rumours thread ! People hear things from whatever source and state them as fact its the Charlton Life way. lay off the Colin bashing.
    But why post it and use it as your 'own'!
    Clearly Colin doesn't have any source/itk but just piggybacks off of someone else's hard work and blog- how is that fair?
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  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Salary, length of contract, control are all issues for any potential manager. The real problem is that imo Duchatelet sees the manager / head coach role as entirely disposable and has bought into the philosophy that a change of manager boosts results. It's all part of his flawed strategy.
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749
    edited May 2016
    and also as he can't sell a manager for profit he can't really see the point of paying them high wages or investing in them with longer contracts
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,882

    What an utter shambles this club is.

    Duchatelet knows the price of everything and the value of nothing

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  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,631
    as well as looking at it from a club's point of view also see it from the manager/cosch's perspective

    in the case of Hill he is very popular at Spotland and his family is settled, for him to leave and move south of course he will want the security of a 3 year contract, 18 months is no good to him at all, if the club won't give him 3 years then he stays and maybe gets offered a shorter contract at another northern club or stays where he is.
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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    colin1961 said:

    Hill ruled out of the running for Blackburn job according to Sky

    Russell Slade is wanted by managerless duo Blackburn Rovers and Charlton Athletic, reports the Lancashire Telegraph.

    The paper says the former Cardiff City boss has already had an interview for the Ewood Park gig, although there is also interest for his services from League One Charlton.

    Slade isn't the only candidate in the running to succeed Paul Lambert at Rovers, as Manchester United U21 manager Warren Joyce has also had talks with Blackburn's Indian owners the Venky's.

    But the Lancashire Telegraph are ruling out a host of other names previously linked with the job, including Alan Stubbs, Craig Hignett, Gareth Ainsworth, Neil Redfearn, Billy Davies and Keith Hill.

    Read all of this yesterday, keep up Colin
  • Macronate said:

    being interviewed by Meire is probably also a major stumbling block bearing in mind she is incompetent in her own position.

    It was long while ago but I do recall turning down a well paid job because I thought the person interviewing me was an idiot. Football is just another business.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    ross1 said:

    colin1961 said:

    Hill ruled out of the running for Blackburn job according to Sky

    Russell Slade is wanted by managerless duo Blackburn Rovers and Charlton Athletic, reports the Lancashire Telegraph.

    The paper says the former Cardiff City boss has already had an interview for the Ewood Park gig, although there is also interest for his services from League One Charlton.

    Slade isn't the only candidate in the running to succeed Paul Lambert at Rovers, as Manchester United U21 manager Warren Joyce has also had talks with Blackburn's Indian owners the Venky's.

    But the Lancashire Telegraph are ruling out a host of other names previously linked with the job, including Alan Stubbs, Craig Hignett, Gareth Ainsworth, Neil Redfearn, Billy Davies and Keith Hill.

    Read all of this yesterday, keep up Colin
    Behave! He's quoted a source...give him some credit for that at least!! :smile:
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,960
    Godstone said:

    Valley11 said:

    So when are we getting a manager then?

    Perhaps we're going to pioneer a new way of running a team... without a manager.
    We've tried that already
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,882
    edited May 2016
    Maybe Colin gets some masochistic need fulfilled by posting and getting grief. Charlton Life posters get to vent their spleen on Colin, which spares the partners at home. It acts as a kind of pressure valve on the site as well as Colin brings everyone together in agreement that they are generally speaking rubbish or laughing at Colin at attempting to pass off information posted elsewhere as a special source.

    It is also possible to just ignore Colin 1961's Prozac Persil spin on everything Charlton.

    Myself, I try to ignore it, as a thread can get taken over by the whole thing.
  • Great another day of bulls shit from Colin the know it all cock
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,749
    edited May 2016

    Great another day of bulls shit from Colin the know it all cock

    I just spent two weeks away filming with some brilliant talented learning disabled actors and performers who know how to treat each other with fairness and dignity in an incredibly challenging environment. I come on here and this is what you get.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    Shrew said:

    Great another day of bulls shit from Colin the know it all cock

    I just spent two weeks away filming with some brilliant talented learning disabled actors and performers who know how to treat each other with fairness and dignity in an incredibly challenging environment. I come on here and this is what you get.
    Colin can't help it though.

    Being serious the first post where he credits a source and doesn't paraphrase ends with an ott response, he can't win.