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How long does Slade get?
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He might get time off for good behaviour.1StevieG said:Life.
There are mitigating factors. He is a lower league manager, with lower league tactics, a lower league mentality, managing lower league players at a lower league club. Oh with a clueless owner & CEO and with a laptop scout. His brief should be able to get a reduction.1 -
I agree with wee Stewie G, I think the season is going to improve, and yes wine has been taken but I think top six is very achievable.StewieGriffinSE7 said:I think we will come good and put a run together but I'm fearing it could be too little too late come the end of the season. On paper inc the keeper we have the best back 5 in the league but shouldn't be conceding every game like we are. Slade deserves atleast a season with his squad
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We should keep Slade but make him sign a contract addendum which prohibits dick head decisions in team selection.0
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Reading back I was a bit brash. Didn't necessarily mean immediately get him gone Monday, more so if let's say we pick up another maybe 4-5 points in our next 5. Surely at that point alarm bells have to ring?0
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Russel Slade is not the answer.
Absoulutely clueless on tactics and substitutions. Only 2 wins in 9 games and no win in the last 5 games is not acceptable.
He might be English but I question whether he is any better than Fraye
I really cannot see where a win is going to come from.
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Of course it's his fucking though he picks the wrong team each game and its wrong every time.0
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Too many people thinking with emotion, instead of with their brain.
Regardless of the inadequacy of the Regime, we still support the team and expect results, don't we?
Whatever people think of Slade, it's evident that he's trying to find stability and build a solid team on solid foundations - so he's gone back to basics in order to get that foundation right.
That means stopping the midfield getting over-run and the defence offered some protection - okay, it's not fast paced buccaneering football, but very decent goal scoring opportunities are still being created, if not taken.
Having got the defensive play more or less right in the past 2 away games, he'll know he'll now need to focus on creating more opportunites and converting those chances into goals.
One step at a time.
The table may show Charlton in 16th place, but the table also shows us only 3 points from a 5th placed play off position.
It would be lunacy to now sack the manager, just because some people expected us to be already running away with the League.
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2 championship midfielders and will piss this league or prem loan end of we all no that0
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If you're content to stay in SBL1 then guarantee Slade a season. I'd give him autumn to get us in play-off mode. We don't look strong enough to to do it automatically. The late collapse against AFC worrying in that there was no plan B.
Hopefully lone striker syndrome not a permanent feature away from home as it will be pointless to do the travelling in support. Win the next two homers and the gloom will lift but we've got to start pressing much harder than hereto.
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About six inches (allegedly)2
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Wasn't particularly excited when we appointed him but we really didn't have a great deal to choose from. Most people in football know that these people are idiots, hence Wilder turned us down. The fact that, by joining us, Slade was accepting a third consecutive position working for lunatic owners set alarm bells ringing with me. Still too early to condemn him, but doesn't look promising. Don't know what the answer is though, if and when he does fail - we either get lumbered with another network numpty, or we get another British manager from the small pool who are willing to work for Roland. For that reason, l would urge people to lay off Slade and make sure the anger continues to be directed at the owner - we're not going anywhere but down until he sells up, regardless of who's running the team.
Surprised by the number of people who seem happy with the squad - looks like far too many centre backs and very little depth elsewhere to me.11 -
From KM or RD?soapy_jones said:About six inches (allegedly)
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Still the Oxford fans, used to even lower league football thought it was a good game.0
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Personally would like to see Thomas Driesden given the job. We might not get promoted but we'd absolutely piss the Woolwich indoor 5-a-side league this winter.5
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He should never have got the job in the first place.
Until he grows the minerals to criticise KM and guy hiding in Belgium, I won't support him.1 -
Don't think that's a reasonable expectation. What we need him to do is stand up to them behind the scenes. He is an improvement on Peeters, Luzon, Fraeye and Riga, IMO, although I doubt if he will get us promoted.SouthWest_Addicks said:He should never have got the job in the first place.
Until he grows the minerals to criticise KM and guy hiding in Belgium, I won't support him.
I expect us to beat Oldham, and so should we all. Duchatelet will probably sack him before the end of the season though.3 -
Slade is not very good. 20 odd years as a manager and the highlight of his career is being 'one penalty away from promotion.'
It matters little when he goes, we are going nowhere with KM RD et al in charge.
If not second rate slade it'll be third rate someone else
cliche cliche cliche positive patience cliche patience the group cliche patience see how patient we were6 -
I have never liked him and ever since he gave us the cold shoulder at Bury, I have disliked him even more. Additionally, he praised KM for the Declan Rudd transfer which angered me.Airman Brown said:
Don't think that's a reasonable expectation. What we need him to do is stand up to them behind the scenes. He is an improvement on Peeters, Luzon, Fraeye and Riga, IMO, although I doubt if he will get us promoted.SouthWest_Addicks said:He should never have got the job in the first place.
Until he grows the minerals to criticise KM and guy hiding in Belgium, I won't support him.
I expect us to beat Oldham, and so should we all. Duchatelet will probably sack him before the end of the season though.
He might be an improvement but it's not a difficult challenge compared to the previous names.
Honestly, maybe the reason I dislike him is because he has offered KM and Roland the opportunity to show customers that they have changed their plans and have started listening to us.3 -
Slade gets longer than most because the alternative will be horrendous2
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I still like him.
I am very disappointed by how negatively he is setting the team up and I hope this improves as the team starts to work together and he has more trust in the defence.
He's still a quality player or two short in midfield which is why I guess he feels the need to load the midfield both away and for what he sees as tricky home fixtures.
Not good enough for promotion.
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On paper this is one of the best teams in the division. Making sure they are set up correctly is, essentially, Slades main match day job. He isn't doing it correctly and he isn't addressing his mistakes during the game adequately.Alwaysneil said:I still like him.
I am very disappointed by how negatively he is setting the team up and I hope this improves as the team starts to work together and he has more trust in the defence.
He's still a quality player or two short in midfield which is why I guess he feels the need to load the midfield both away and for what he sees as tricky home fixtures.
Not good enough for promotion.4 -
One of the thoughts i had during this game was there was no direction, no real theme, no plan in terms of what we were trying to achieve - just 10 outfield players playing individually and trying to pass to another red shirt, as opposed to instinctively having a system and knowing where a team-mate was or should be - and then when we ran out of ideas, a big hoof to Magennis who would hold it up but eventually get shunted off the ball by force of numbers and having no-one to lay off to.
We are doomed with this non-achiever at the helm.5 -
I can't see we are going anywhere. Can't see th epoint of sacking him now though.
The most disapointing thing about this thread is that some people get excited that we are only a few points away from the play offs. Almost everybody is,ffs.
Surely our aim should be top 2. From memory we were evwn in play off places when Parky got sacked.
Why are some people even remotely happy wit h this shambles7 -
he was the wrong man for the job in the first place. If the real ambition was promotion then why appoint someone who in 20 years of management has never got a team promoted. It was lip service to appease the fans and a few have fallen for it. When he fails then they can blame the fans. It doesn't matter who is in charge under this regime as we are going nowhere, except maybe down. Sack him, don't sack him, won't make a difference and I don't give a shit anyway.12
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This.LargeAddick said:he was the wrong man for the job in the first place. If the real ambition was promotion then why appoint someone who in 20 years of management has never got a team promoted. It was lip service to appease the fans and a few have fallen for it. When he fails then they can blame the fans. It doesn't matter who is in charge under this regime as we are going nowhere, except maybe down. Sack him, don't sack him, won't make a difference and I don't give a shit anyway.
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One of the reasons, Charlton are going nowhere under Duchatelet & Meire is that they have neglected to have a balanced squad in any of the seasons under Duchatelet's ownership. The problem in this team is clearly the midfield. If you add at least one decent quality creative & energetic midfielder then Ajose has service and the team is looking a lot more balanced.
I am not trying to defend Slade as I don't think he is a particularly good manager (who would attempt to manage under Duchatelet / Meire - its a hiding to nothing). Slade appears to be a very defensive with not much of a plan B. I am surprised though that many on here think that the squad is good enough. Unless, Ulvestad miraculously turns into a box to box creative genius the midfield severley lacks creativity in the central midfield area. A decent manager would struggle with the current squad let alone someone line Slade.
Blame for the squad and lack of options in the middle of the park needs to be placed squarely at Duchatelet's & Meire's door who have yet again underestimated what is required for the league that Charlton find themselves in. Duchatelet & Meire should not be allowed to say that they have given Charlton a British manager and deflect all the blame onto them for poor results. It is not just about who the manager is, they need to be properly supported and this is something that Duchatelet and Meire have singularly failed to do with any of their managers and coaches from Powell, Riga, Peters to Slade.5 -
This site makes me burst out laughing sometimes!!
Everyone entitled to their view so fair enough, but for any Russell Out fans could you please answer;
-who would you appoint instead, and would they come?
-what would happen if they didn't win in their first 9 games, would you replace them?
Genuinely intrigued.5 -
Slade is way down the list of problems10
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Perhaps Slade thinks he has no chance getting promoted by being an attacking team as there is not enough quality. Is his theory that if the defence gets tighter we by playing together week in week out we can start to nick 1-0 wins more regularly. Just a thought.0
