Shrewsbury v Charlton - Post Match Views

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

golfaddick said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

palarsehater said:

we will stay up but only by other teams shortcomings.

Don't be so sure about that.

The team is fractured and the manager inept. And the teams below us are at least playing with a desire to get out of the bottom 4.

And don't forget after Saturday, 3 of the next 4 games are against Bradford, Scunthorpe and Sheff Utd.

This is where we will pick up points - we always seem to do better against the better teams & lose against the lesser ones. We won away at Bolton don't forget & I reckon we will do similar at Sheff U.

Win at Sheff Utd? The phrase "Sir, I admire your indefatigability" comes very much to mind!

Probably didn;t see the home game against Sheff U. We were battered. At home. And got a point because they had Leon Clark up front.

Airman Brown said:

Hard to know how far Robinson is the problem, partly because he says ten implausible things before breakfast each day, but if he keeps losing he will have to go IMO. More at www.votvonline.com

Robinson "says ten implausible things before breakfast each day". OK, so now we know why he gets on so well with Meire. In her case breakfast is at 12.30pm.

Simple obvious fact, if we lose all the remaining matches
(which sadly we seem capable of) then we will go down.

Hartleypete said:

Got to say although defending very poor Rudd needs to look at himself for first and second.

Rudd had no chance.

As boring as Slade's team was, it sounded very much like he was teaching the squad how to walk again. Just as it was starting to take its first wobbly, but unaided steps, again, it suffered a fall at Swindon. Now we have Robinson who is telling the squad it can skip learning to walk and just run, and we are getting undone defensively every game.

Slade was not the first to come unstuck because an owner and fans couldn't understand that, sometimes, playing ugly is the most effective way to for a side, under certain circumstances, to gather points.

Powell got criticised for it, Curbs got criticised for it. Gary Rowett recently suffered for it at Birmingham.

Robinson, however badly he keeps delivering his message, may well have a point about the players lacking commitment and desire, but he is not doing his job right now either. We're not scoring goals so he just keeps throwing more and more "attacking" players into the side and onto the bench. No changes in tactics or approach, just more forward thinking players but barely anymore goals, and those that are scored are easily cancelled out by goals scored against our wide open and exposed defence.

Pards used to do the same thing and it worked about as well for him too. Curbs (and later Powell) used to get back to basics and work on getting a couple of clean sheets, even if all that earnt us was a nil-nil. It wasn't always pretty but it kept us well away from relegation for the most part, even when working under much tougher financial constraints than Robinson has. I'd be delighted with a couple of ground out points right now.

Saturday a 6 point relegation "must win" thriller.

Yawn.

s'all been written .. just a few points .. Jackson brought a degree of calm and accurate passing to the side .. but never the quickest even as a younger man, he was a total tortoise in the wake of the Shrews right flank attacks for two of the goals, we never really recovered from the first of them, yet another early belly punch ..
Page is not all that but should have been at left back .. If JJ is to be in the side it MUST be as a deep lying, covering midfielder .. Aribo was anonymous, perhaps JJ should fit in there but with him and Crofts, two oldies ? .. still Scunny have a usually VERY effective midfielder in Bishop and he is older then JJ, and Dawson, his partner is about the same age

Where would we be without Holmes my dear Watson ?

I've written elsewhere that Watt and not Novak should have started

Rudd is VERY vulnerable to low, skiddy shots and has been sussed out by opposition strikers

Start of the season we had more central defenders than I have had hot dinners .. where have they all gone ? .. Konsa's performance last night emphasised once more that he is just not ready for that role .. BUT there was no one else available, where is Jolly Roger when you need him ?

Last night's game was very entertaining, IF you're a neutral .. Shrewsbury are too good to go down, pity the same can't be said about us

Klueless Karl has put us deeper in the mire, I can almost smell the frustration and despair on some of our players .. new arrivals going down with 'injuries' (am I being too cynical ?), too many red and yellow cards, too many square pegs in deep, deep round holes ... Krusoe's got to go and I don't care if he's the 35th manager to leave in the past year, the bloke is useless and a liability .. give JJ the job, give anybody the job, but Kackeling Kreepy Karl is indubitably NOT the man for us

ForeverAddickted said:

Just watched the goals and they're bloody awful...

i.e. the fourth the bloke has a shot and then runs through three players to ensure he gets the rebound!!

http://www.skysports.com/football/shrewsbury-vs-charlton/359078

Pretty special that little lot. I can see where all the hard graft on the training pitch has gone on..

RugbyAddick said:

I listened to the game on the radio. Amazing how a man that conceded 4 goals was our second best player after hat-trick Holmes. That's no disrespect to Rudd as it sounded as if he was playing without a defence.

Robinson HAS to go - but he won't as he's eaten Katrien Meire who is still able to talk from inside KR.

Team vs NTFC should be;
Rudd,
Barnes, Bauer, Konsa, Lapslie
Holmes, Dijksteel, Jackson, Aribo,
KAG and Kennedy (recall him)

The regular, gutless, shabolic pros can fuck right off. At least the above team will give 100% without even having to ask them. If they lose, who cares as it's surely not about what happens on the pitch now. We NEED to get the Belgians out. They are destroying everything.

Certain relegation with that team...


--------------Rudd
------Konsa -- Tex -- Bauer
Byrne---------------------Chicksen
-------Aribo---------JFC
-------------Holmes
------------Magennis


I think is our strongest 11, but like fuck has he got the tactical nous to even think of that

It could have finished 10-10. Both defences were brittle.

Robinson intimated a lot during his infamous outburst, but was clear to state that the owners, multiple managers and lack of funds were not to blame.

I’m not sure how these factors can be disassociated with the general apathy and lethargy that surrounds the squad’s performance in recent years.

Paul Mortimer on Radio London (following the Bury game) spoke of talent and he spoke of human frailties. We may well have the talent required, but talent is adversely affected by instability, insecurity and uncertainty - the very qualities brought to the club by the owner, his revolving door and the SMT.

It matters not if you work for a builder, bank or professional football club, you will work better for a company who provides stability with a future and prospects that can be aspired to.

alan dugdale said:

We need more coaches

So more of us can protest in Belgium!

JamesSeed said:

bazjonster said:

MartinCAFC said:

PWR on the coach home, it's become so depressing and the

This PWR lark is really catching. WE DON'T BLOODY CARE!!

Have no idea what PWR is.

Pressurised Water Reactor

JamesSeed said:

bazjonster said:

MartinCAFC said:

PWR on the coach home, it's become so depressing and the

This PWR lark is really catching. WE DON'T BLOODY CARE!!

Have no idea what PWR is.

At the risk of a woosh, it's Posted Without Reading, it believe.

Raith_C_Chattonell said:

Robinson intimated a lot during his infamous outburst, but was clear to state that the owners, multiple managers and lack of funds were not to blame.

I’m not sure how these factors can be disassociated with the general apathy and lethargy that surrounds the squad’s performance in recent years.

Paul Mortimer on Radio London (following the Bury game) spoke of talent and he spoke of human frailties. We may well have the talent required, but talent is adversely affected by instability, insecurity and uncertainty - the very qualities brought to the club by the owner, his revolving door and the SMT.

It matters not if you work for a builder, bank or professional football club, you will work better for a company who provides stability with a future and prospects that can be aspired to.

Spot on.

Robinson keeps prattling on about honesty and how straight he is but to try and disassociate the impact of the owner's approach, managerial instability and lack of investment from the downward spiral of the team is thoroughly disingenuous. Yes, we should be doing better with this squad we have but all these factors have had - and continue to have - a thoroughly corrosive effect. It's as plain as a bloody pikestaff and he's fooling anybody (although I guess it was all intended for Duchatelet and the press - not that the latter are going to swallow his nonsense). Robinson should have adopted a more neutral position and just got on with the job he's being paid to do, namely, managing his players and winning some football matches.

As many other Lifers have observed, he's also undermined himself by being an unsubtle PR mouthpiece for the regime - for example, through effusive ramblings about his discussions with 'The President' (pass the sick bag) and attempts to hawk young lads like Konsa and Aribo (especially) around the market after a handful of games.

I wanted to get behind Robinson, notwithstanding a garrulous nature which is the very antithesis of Lenny and the Curbs. His enthusiasm looked initially as if it would be an asset, given our plight, but I was left dumbfounded by his atrocious post-match interview on Tuesday.