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How do the Tories need to change?

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  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595
    We need some sort of reform of our political system, not sure what annoys me most, the fact you can call a non binding vote, the fact you can simply not turn up or all the heckling that goes on. Do other countries have all this ridiculous goings on?
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    Can't lose a vote if no one turns up

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  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,361
    Could the Tory train be derailing? Michael Fallon has just resigned due to these sexual harassment allegations.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,050
    If he goes after Hartley-Brewer said it was nothing, what chance have the other sleaze balls got? Mass exodus coming soon...
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,286
    More like there's other stuff coming out in tomorrow or Friday's papers, so he's jumping before she had to push him.
  • bellz2002 said:

    Could the Tory train be derailing? Michael Fallon has just resigned due to these sexual harassment allegations.

    I think it's more to do with what's on the other list. Any Defence Secretary should be absolutely squeaky clean...
  • TelMc32 said:

    If he goes after Hartley-Brewer said it was nothing, what chance have the other sleaze balls got? Mass exodus coming soon...

    Well exactly. Has he really resigned over what Hartley-Brewer said was absolutely nothing or is he resigning because there is more to come concerning him ?

    I doubt he’s going to be the last from all sides of the house.

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    FFS will you give it a rest, there's a game on
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144


    Can we now expect the resignation of Boris Johnson on the basis that his "behaviour has fallen short", every single day of his political career, including as London Mayor?
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,595



    Can we now expect the resignation of Boris Johnson on the basis that his "behaviour has fallen short", every single day of his political career, including as London Mayor?
    Could be quite an empty house of commons if everyone who may have fallen short quits!
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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,050
    Just had a look at that list of Tory names that came out the other day. Definitely a few "penchants" to be revealed & comment on his drinking habits is backed up tonight by one exchange that suggested 3 of the Commons bars could close if he goes!
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,050
    May is screwed. She'll have to replace Fallon, but who with when she can't be sure if they'll have to go in a day or two.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    So, Boris eh?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Fiiish said:

    So, Boris eh?

    Utter C

    Also looking forward to Priti Patel’s fall from grace. Has her head so far up her own arse it’s unreal

    All those people that don’t have a clue about politics saying ‘oh I quite like Boris, isn’t he funny’

    The loveable oaf image is long gone.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    edited November 2017
    With BoJo dropping British citizens overseas in it, secret meetings with foreign heads of state, and all the sexual assault allegations, May must really be considering invoking Malcolm's Law:

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  • Priti Patel will be forced to resign today surely.

    Boris yet again has put his size 12’s in his mouth.

    This government is lurching from crisis to crisis.

    Not fit for office.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Can't wait for the Russian bot-generated pro-Tory social media swarm just in time for the next election. I swear to god if you vote these cunts back in. Even the Tories among you should vote Lib Dem to punish them. Five years of Corbyn should be enough time for your party to take stock and rid itself of these awful fucking morons. Rebirth. Try that One Nation stuff again, and try it better.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,050
    How two of the most senior people within the diplomatic corps of the FCO can be these two idiots is just beyond parody. Gormless, self-serving idiots, the senior (alledgedly) of whom could still have caused serious repercussions for a U.K. citizen.

    Johnson is now apparently going to Iran to "sort this out". I wouldn't let the twat out of the country again and certainly not without two responsible adults and a load of gaffer tape for his mouth.

    Both of them should be sacked.
  • Boris should resign, but instead he's probably going to be our next Prime Minister. :neutral:
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    There will be open rebellion and massive interventions if there's any risk of Boris as PM
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  • Leuth said:

    Can't wait for the Russian bot-generated pro-Tory social media swarm just in time for the next election. I swear to god if you vote these cunts back in. Even the Tories among you should vote Lib Dem to punish them. Five years of Corbyn should be enough time for your party to take stock and rid itself of these awful fucking morons. Rebirth. Try that One Nation stuff again, and try it better.

    It would have to exist first before it could be improved.

    As it was, it was just the unctuous coward Cameron blowing hot air. It only ever existed as a vacuous soundbite, the political language perfected by the master bullshitter Blair
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314

    Leuth said:

    Can't wait for the Russian bot-generated pro-Tory social media swarm just in time for the next election. I swear to god if you vote these cunts back in. Even the Tories among you should vote Lib Dem to punish them. Five years of Corbyn should be enough time for your party to take stock and rid itself of these awful fucking morons. Rebirth. Try that One Nation stuff again, and try it better.

    It would have to exist first before it could be improved.

    As it was, it was just the unctuous coward Cameron blowing hot air. It only ever existed as a vacuous soundbite, the political language perfected by the master bullshitter Blair
    Well exactly. They'd have to follow through with it for it to gain traction, one hopes.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Leuth said:

    There will be open rebellion and massive interventions if there's any risk of Boris as PM

    Problem is, there will be open rebellion if there’s any chance of Theresa May trying to shut out boris. Catch 22. Once again, internal tory divisions are fucking up the country. The only party not suffering from infighting is *shudder* Corbyn’s Labour.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    TelMc32 said:

    How two of the most senior people within the diplomatic corps of the FCO can be these two idiots is just beyond parody. Gormless, self-serving idiots, the senior (alledgedly) of whom could still have caused serious repercussions for a U.K. citizen.

    Johnson is now apparently going to Iran to "sort this out". I wouldn't let the twat out of the country again and certainly not without two responsible adults and a load of gaffer tape for his mouth.

    Both of them should be sacked.

    Can't Iran just imprison him. Job done, everyone is happy and we move on with our lives
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    So we have our Foreign Minister gobbing off about something he hasn't taken the trouble to get himself fully briefed on to the extent that a UK citizen may now face additional time in an Iranian jail.

    The same Minister this weekend also backed his more junior colleague for holding 12 meetings (although she initially only said two) with another governments representatives, including their PM, during an unofficial/unauthorised trip....when she was supposed to be only on holiday and not laying the ground for her own leadership challenge.

    And yet people still defend them.

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    BTW, these two would have toast already if they had campaigned for Remain, the Leave press is giving two of it's own a massive pass here.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998

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    So we have our Foreign Minister gobbing off about something he hasn't taken the trouble to get himself fully briefed on to the extent that a UK citizen may now face additional time in an Iranian jail.

    The same Minister this weekend also backed his more junior colleague for holding 12 meetings (although she initially only said two) with another governments representatives, including their PM, during an unofficial/unauthorised trip....when she was supposed to be only on holiday and not laying the ground for her own leadership challenge.

    And yet people still defend them.

    People don't defend them anymore. They're just waiting for Ken Livingstone to say something about the jews or Diane Abbott to get a sum wrong and a week long media shitstorm will cover up any minor news like the Foreign Secretary directly worsening a Briton's plight or another Tory promising Israel foreign aid money to help murder more Palestinians.
  • Leuth said:

    Can't wait for the Russian bot-generated pro-Tory social media swarm just in time for the next election. I swear to god if you vote these cunts back in. Even the Tories among you should vote Lib Dem to punish them. Five years of Corbyn should be enough time for your party to take stock and rid itself of these awful fucking morons. Rebirth. Try that One Nation stuff again, and try it better.

    It would have to exist first before it could be improved.

    As it was, it was just the unctuous coward Cameron blowing hot air. It only ever existed as a vacuous soundbite, the political language perfected by the master bullshitter Blair
    Cameron wasn't a One Nation Tory he just had a very slick machine which convinced enough people that he was 'all things to everyone'. You would have to go back to Ted Heath (oh f**k!) for a One Nation party and John Major for a One Nation leader.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    What would Boris actually need to do to get sacked? Go to a state banquet dressed as Colonel Klink? Lock the Chinese ambassador in a toilet with a staffie? Enter Wimbledon under the pseudonym Baron von Fingerbang?
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