The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I know Bob, I get that it's business. I just can't get away from looking at it with some form of romantic, social responsibility notion. To me owning a football is being the custodian of people's dreams, a centre point of a community, a piece of history. I don't think I can think of a higher honour than to hold that responsibility. To see if t as just some cold business deal like buying a garage breaks my heart.bobmunro said:
It’s business, and ultimately all business is about money - cost of investment, funding that investment, and any likely return on that investment.AFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
Whatever it costs it will be more than we are currently worth as a league one club, so the return on investment figures must be based on at least one promotion, probably two.
Unless of course we can pull a stupidly rich owner who wants a toy and hope that he or she becomes attached in a meaningful way to that toy - or we pull a seriously rich owner who also happens to be a Charlton fan as well - but I’m too busy at the moment ;-)13 -
I used to have that opinion of all football owners Dan but that changed , at this level and the reasons for buying a club it doesn’t add up for it to be solely money driven , they may not have an affinity with cafc or any other club that it’s up for sale at the beginning but in the end more often than not they do fall for that club and the attachment is not solely financialAFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
The people who work at the club from the tea lady and the admin to the players all become more than a commodity to the owners unless you get a RD or an Oysten
The venkys for example are genuinely nice People who have done a lot for Blackburn may not everything with the football team has always been for the fans or the playing staff at that point in time
But they have done a lot for Blackburn and do really care about the club
Yet from the outside you’d think they were as bad as RD or Blacpools mob
Unfortunately in this country we have allowed unscrupulous bstds gain control of clubs and those are the ones we see and hear of the most7 -
Me also, Danny.AFKABartram said:
I know Bob, I get that it's business. I just can't get away from looking at it with some form of romantic, social responsibility notion. To me owning a football is being the custodian of people's dreams, a centre point of a community, a piece of history. I don't think I can think of a higher owner than to hold that responsibility. To see if t as just some cold business deal like buying a garage breaks my heart.bobmunro said:
It’s business, and ultimately all business is about money - cost of investment, funding that investment, and any likely return on that investment.AFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
Whatever it costs it will be more than we are currently worth as a league one club, so the return on investment figures must be based on at least one promotion, probably two.
Unless of course we can pull a stupidly rich owner who wants a toy and hope that he or she becomes attached in a meaningful way to that toy - or we pull a seriously rich owner who also happens to be a Charlton fan as well - but I’m too busy at the moment ;-)
There are some that still hold true to that notion - the Coates family for one, and Peter as Chairman in particular. I know the Burton chairman as well and he’s cut from the same cloth.
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Some do Dan even if they don’t get it right every time , I know that Simon Corney at Oldham has made mistakes and had hard calls to make and has faced criticism but he really does believe in what you have posted and that weighs heavily on him , but they have to have feet in both camps and sometimes that makes them seem uncaringAFKABartram said:
I know Bob, I get that it's business. I just can't get away from looking at it with some form of romantic, social responsibility notion. To me owning a football is being the custodian of people's dreams, a centre point of a community, a piece of history. I don't think I can think of a higher owner than to hold that responsibility. To see if t as just some cold business deal like buying a garage breaks my heart.bobmunro said:
It’s business, and ultimately all business is about money - cost of investment, funding that investment, and any likely return on that investment.AFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
Whatever it costs it will be more than we are currently worth as a league one club, so the return on investment figures must be based on at least one promotion, probably two.
Unless of course we can pull a stupidly rich owner who wants a toy and hope that he or she becomes attached in a meaningful way to that toy - or we pull a seriously rich owner who also happens to be a Charlton fan as well - but I’m too busy at the moment ;-)2 -
But look at date, is this still ongoing?Henry Irving said:For any beards asking for evidence this was my source for starting the thread.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4406218/Charlton-owner-Roland-Duchatelet-ready-sell-up.html
PUBLISHED: 19:01, 12 April 2017 | UPDATED: 00:34, 13 April 20171 -
Not necessarily no, already been said that there are other parties involved.ross1 said:
But look at date, is this still ongoing?Henry Irving said:For any beards asking for evidence this was my source for starting the thread.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4406218/Charlton-owner-Roland-Duchatelet-ready-sell-up.html
PUBLISHED: 19:01, 12 April 2017 | UPDATED: 00:34, 13 April 20170 -
Possibly but unlikely imho but some can't quite grasp that it's an old thread.ross1 said:
But look at date, is this still ongoing?Henry Irving said:For any beards asking for evidence this was my source for starting the thread.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4406218/Charlton-owner-Roland-Duchatelet-ready-sell-up.html
PUBLISHED: 19:01, 12 April 2017 | UPDATED: 00:34, 13 April 20170 -
What's all this beard nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
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Coates and Gibson at Boro. The dream. We also had that imo under Murray and Varney (but a custodian as manager as well). That’s now the exception not the rule for pretty much all of football given the money swimming aroundbobmunro said:
Me also, Danny.AFKABartram said:
I know Bob, I get that it's business. I just can't get away from looking at it with some form of romantic, social responsibility notion. To me owning a football is being the custodian of people's dreams, a centre point of a community, a piece of history. I don't think I can think of a higher owner than to hold that responsibility. To see if t as just some cold business deal like buying a garage breaks my heart.bobmunro said:
It’s business, and ultimately all business is about money - cost of investment, funding that investment, and any likely return on that investment.AFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
Whatever it costs it will be more than we are currently worth as a league one club, so the return on investment figures must be based on at least one promotion, probably two.
Unless of course we can pull a stupidly rich owner who wants a toy and hope that he or she becomes attached in a meaningful way to that toy - or we pull a seriously rich owner who also happens to be a Charlton fan as well - but I’m too busy at the moment ;-)
There are some that still hold true to that notion - the Coates family for one, and Peter as Chairman in particular. I know the Burton chairman as well and he’s cut from the same cloth.
In fact, hats off to Abramovich. Chelsea should be putting a statue up for him given on how he transformed them. I couldn’t care less if my owner is foreign, as long as their interests are genuine
The game has changed so much now, we’re all just at the mercy of how an affluent businessman sees it as part of their portfolio of interests/investments
You roll the dice and get a 6 with an Abramovich, Coates or Gibson, the dice rolls under the sofa and you never see it again and can’t play anymore with a Duchatelet12 -
Not sure when the first reports about the Japanese buying STTV came about but it was certainly months ago.
Maybe, just maybe, Roly and his team are a little incompetent when it comes the legal stuff.
These things take time.
Also don’t forget he’s feeling a bit footballmoe at the moment so have some sympathy for the old codger.
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A beard is someone who fronts for someone elseAFKABartram said:What's all this beard not nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
As it turns out this beard is actually getting their info 2nd hand via a relative (who isn't a beard or in any way being critised) but still gives it absolute uncritical credibility in order to try and score cheap points.
All very sad and all very unnecessary.0 -
Think we should look into updating thread title to (page 133, itchy beard)AFKABartram said:What's all this beard nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is8 -
Brighton are very lucky to be owned by a wealthy lifelong fan who clearly has ambition and knows how to run a club.AFKABartram said:
I know Bob, I get that it's business. I just can't get away from looking at it with some form of romantic, social responsibility notion. To me owning a football is being the custodian of people's dreams, a centre point of a community, a piece of history. I don't think I can think of a higher honour than to hold that responsibility. To see if t as just some cold business deal like buying a garage breaks my heart.bobmunro said:
It’s business, and ultimately all business is about money - cost of investment, funding that investment, and any likely return on that investment.AFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
Whatever it costs it will be more than we are currently worth as a league one club, so the return on investment figures must be based on at least one promotion, probably two.
Unless of course we can pull a stupidly rich owner who wants a toy and hope that he or she becomes attached in a meaningful way to that toy - or we pull a seriously rich owner who also happens to be a Charlton fan as well - but I’m too busy at the moment ;-)2 -
The link also shows a photo of the ground from 1992 , like running a report on Spurs and showing a photo of Gordon Durieross1 said:
But look at date, is this still ongoing?Henry Irving said:For any beards asking for evidence this was my source for starting the thread.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4406218/Charlton-owner-Roland-Duchatelet-ready-sell-up.html
PUBLISHED: 19:01, 12 April 2017 | UPDATED: 00:34, 13 April 20173 -
166 new posts, fingers crossed....0
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I know that, as a club, we're doing quite well on the whole LGBTQ+ thing, bit is that not taking things a bit far?Johnnysummers5 said:
Will that mean Red Red Robin will be replaced by The Lonely Goatherd, as we come out?Henry Irving said:
Anyway, presumably, as friends of Dorothy, we should be played something from the Wizard of Oz.
There is a tune lurking in the back of my head that might be apt, come the departure of our fragrant and lovely CEO. Something to do with "ding, dong" I think, but not Leslie Phillips....2 -
I think I get it now but what would the beard be called if the source was a beard ?Henry Irving said:
A beard is someone who fronts for someone elseAFKABartram said:What's all this beard not nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
As it turns out this beard is actually getting their info 2nd hand via a relative (who isn't a beard or in any way being critised) but still gives it absolute uncritical credibility in order to try and score cheap points.
All very sad and all very unnecessary.1 -
Yeah - he still looks like a knob!lolwray said:any news on Delort by the way?
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A merkin.Hex said:
I think I get it now but what would the beard be called if the source was a beard ?Henry Irving said:
A beard is someone who fronts for someone elseAFKABartram said:What's all this beard not nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
As it turns out this beard is actually getting their info 2nd hand via a relative (who isn't a beard or in any way being critised) but still gives it absolute uncritical credibility in order to try and score cheap points.
All very sad and all very unnecessary.2 -
Henry Irving said:
A beard is someone who fronts for someone elseAFKABartram said:What's all this beard not nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
As it turns out this beard is actually getting their info 2nd hand via a relative (who isn't a beard or in any way being critised) but still gives it absolute uncritical credibility in order to try and score cheap points.
All very sad and all very unnecessary.
I always thought a beard was a women who was being 'dated' by a gay man to pass himself off as straight to family, colleagues etc. The women is in on the ruse btw.NornIrishAddick said:
I know that, as a club, we're doing quite well on the whole LGBTQ+ thing, bit is that not taking things a bit far?Johnnysummers5 said:
Will that mean Red Red Robin will be replaced by The Lonely Goatherd, as we come out?Henry Irving said:
Anyway, presumably, as friends of Dorothy, we should be played something from the Wizard of Oz.
There is a tune lurking in the back of my head that might be apt, come the departure of our fragrant and lovely CEO. Something to do with "ding, dong" I think, but not Leslie Phillips....4 -
Me too, seem's we're right!Cordoban Addick said:Henry Irving said:
A beard is someone who fronts for someone elseAFKABartram said:What's all this beard not nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
As it turns out this beard is actually getting their info 2nd hand via a relative (who isn't a beard or in any way being critised) but still gives it absolute uncritical credibility in order to try and score cheap points.
All very sad and all very unnecessary.
I always thought a beard was a women who was being 'dated' by a gay man to pass himself off as straight to family, colleagues etc. The women is in on the ruse btw.NornIrishAddick said:
I know that, as a club, we're doing quite well on the whole LGBTQ+ thing, bit is that not taking things a bit far?Johnnysummers5 said:
Will that mean Red Red Robin will be replaced by The Lonely Goatherd, as we come out?Henry Irving said:
Anyway, presumably, as friends of Dorothy, we should be played something from the Wizard of Oz.
There is a tune lurking in the back of my head that might be apt, come the departure of our fragrant and lovely CEO. Something to do with "ding, dong" I think, but not Leslie Phillips....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beard_(companion)
However, if we accept Henry's definition, surely Airman and anyone else passing on informatino from their sources are also beards? I wonder why only Doucher receives the attacks he does.1 -
Can we start a new thread on beards please.
Far more interesting than the (potential/secret/fictitious/failed/in-progress/imminent/stalled/unlikely/impossible/dreaded/counter-productive/life-saving/non-existent) bloody take-over.3 -
......have you ever wanted the ‘its Happened’ gif more?
160 new posts, all a combo of beard analysis and white-lie-telling friends.
Please sell Roland.....to end this thread!3 -
I just keep looking at the thread title to see if anything’s changed and then start my Tourette’s off again by reading the thread and shouting expletives at my iPad
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We had that and when he ran out of money - even after spending the bulk of that money on bailing the club out from going under he gets abused rotten because he is no longer of any use apparentlyAFKABartram said:
I know Bob, I get that it's business. I just can't get away from looking at it with some form of romantic, social responsibility notion. To me owning a football is being the custodian of people's dreams, a centre point of a community, a piece of history. I don't think I can think of a higher honour than to hold that responsibility. To see if t as just some cold business deal like buying a garage breaks my heart.bobmunro said:
It’s business, and ultimately all business is about money - cost of investment, funding that investment, and any likely return on that investment.AFKABartram said:These people imo (definitely on the selling side and more than likely on the buying side) have absolutely no genuine love for the good of Charlton Athletic.
Everything boils down to money.
Whatever it costs it will be more than we are currently worth as a league one club, so the return on investment figures must be based on at least one promotion, probably two.
Unless of course we can pull a stupidly rich owner who wants a toy and hope that he or she becomes attached in a meaningful way to that toy - or we pull a seriously rich owner who also happens to be a Charlton fan as well - but I’m too busy at the moment ;-)0 -
I have offered up what I know - you started the beard stuff in your usual condescending manner which is probably why u always seemed to be in an argument -whatever a beard is anyway. I don't expect or want an apology but I do expect the likes of u to stop people with a differing view from wanting to post on here.Henry Irving said:
A beard is someone who fronts for someone elseAFKABartram said:What's all this beard not nonsense?? I can't be the only one that hasn't got a clue??
Would be a lot easier for everyone if all the childish tit for tat jibbing could be parked.
Grown men and all that malarkey. Poor old @i_b_b_o_r_g has got enough to look into as it is
As it turns out this beard is actually getting their info 2nd hand via a relative (who isn't a beard or in any way being critised) but still gives it absolute uncritical credibility in order to try and score cheap points.
All very sad and all very unnecessary.6 -
Ahhh, so the second hand source is Richard Murray then. That explains everything. New owner(s) please!6
