The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Sounds a bit flimsy.Airman Brown said:
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.
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This thread has taken a bit of a downward turn again re: keeping it on topic
Please try and keep this about what may or may not be happening rather than personal stuff2 -
I wonder (aloud) if the trust has considered the feasibility of trying to be involved in that approach.Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.
Maybe a romantic dream in today’s game.1 -
Addickted said:
I'm aware of one of these - one of the ex associate directors we had, when the Board room was overflowing. However although worth a few million, he really doesn't have the sort of finances to continually pump money into the Club on a regular basis.Airman Brown said:The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.
It’s not regarded as viable by my sources.carly burn said:
Sounds a bit flimsy.Airman Brown said:
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.0 -
DOUCHER.....the most annoying thing about your input is that you are clearly enjoying giving us this information, be it true or false.
It’s this palpable “pissing on the fireworks” approach you are conveying that puts you firmly in the WUM category, you seem to have positively enjoyed spreading gloomy news from the get go.
Whether this is to have a dig at RE or the rest of us in general I just don’t know.
But have you stopped to consider this......evidently the talks have stalled.....but maybe not broken down completely, just stalled. So just as quickly as they stalled so they could rekindle.
Neither Rick or yourself know for sure......so, please stop this f’ing stupid point scoring or just piss off.
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Well said Canterscantersaddick said:
I didn't say your first post on this thread. I said your first post on the matter a couple of days ago. Has your ability to read vanished along with your memory and ability to reason?DOUCHER said:
By the time I'd first posted on this thread, nothing was happening - about a month or so agocantersaddick said:
Has your memory gone? Your first few posts on the matter a few days ago. You were adamant it wasn't happening and it was all made up. There was no DD and the process hadn't started.DOUCHER said:
show me where i said it never started. Anyway, your upset i'll leave itcantersaddick said:
Except NLA has been saying that all along. You on the other hand said it had never started. Then when that had been disagreed with from a number of sources you back tracked and now that a few others have said it may have hit a problem you're trying to claim credit that you said it all along. You didn't. Keep changing your story and eventually it'll match what reliable people are saying and you can claim a victory.DOUCHER said:
argue it out with north london above - he understands - i'm not undergoing another tedioscomy by the like of youcantersaddick said:
That was part of your rapid back track when you realised everyone saw through your crap.DOUCHER said:
Check your facts - i said if it was happening it wasn't anymore - after airman quizzed me after I first said it was a non story and wasn't happening and so it has been proved. I thankyou.cantersaddick said:
Except you've never said anything about it stalling. You've been adamant all along that it never started therefore how could it have stalled?DOUCHER said:Title now says page 143 reports of deal stalled but I can't see anything on that page - should it be referring to the Airman post on page 144? Alternatively you could refer to my first post on this thread. I do try and help but u just won't be told.
You're like my girlfriend trying to drive "it stalled"
"no dear it never started".
Snore.
It was before we found out your source might be lying. And before your rapid backtrack. I would go back and quote it but you're acting like a WUM so cba.2 -
You Believe that the ‘talks have stopped’/‘deal is dead is wrong ?Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.0 -
Yeah, can you clarify Airman? Are talks dead in the water or is there still hope?sammy391 said:
You Believe that the ‘talks have stopped’/‘deal is dead is wrong ?Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.0 -
I don’t think he can but no harm in asking I guess.J BLOCK said:
Yeah, can you clarify Airman? Are talks dead in the water or is there still hope?sammy391 said:
You Believe that the ‘talks have stopped’/‘deal is dead is wrong ?Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.0 - Sponsored links:
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Airman said "but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet."J BLOCK said:
Yeah, can you clarify Airman? Are talks dead in the water or is there still hope?sammy391 said:
You Believe that the ‘talks have stopped’/‘deal is dead is wrong ?Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.0 -
This.charltonbob said:
Airman said "but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet."J BLOCK said:
Yeah, can you clarify Airman? Are talks dead in the water or is there still hope?sammy391 said:
You Believe that the ‘talks have stopped’/‘deal is dead is wrong ?Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.8 -
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Could vereyone try and back off @DOUCHER a bit. He has offered a different perspective from his sources. From someone with absolutely NO sources, his are equally valid as Airman Brown, so while the message maybe unpopular, I don't see the need for all the invective. I complained when he hurled one or two at Airman, but since then, every time he posts he gets unnecessary abuse. Why the need to dig people out if you disagree with them - he may have a valid source of information too.16
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It's not his divergent views which are the problem, but rather his antagonistic way of expressing them and his tendency to try to re-package what he has said when challenged. I'm not (usually) one to have a pop at people on here, but I can understand how he winds people up.ken_shabby said:Could vereyone try and back off @DOUCHER a bit. He has offered a different perspective from his sources. From someone with absolutely NO sources, his are equally valid as Airman Brown, so while the message maybe unpopular, I don't see the need for all the invective. I complained when he hurled one or two at Airman, but since then, every time he posts he gets unnecessary abuse. Why the need to dig people out if you disagree with them - he may have a valid source of information too.
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Well that is the dream that all Trusts exist to fulfil, so thanks very much for this timely heads up.Super_Eddie_Youds said:
I wonder (aloud) if the trust has considered the feasibility of trying to be involved in that approach.Airman Brown said:I have reason to believe both NLA and Doucher are wrong, but there’s no point debating things that can’t be brought into the public domain any further at this point. I wouldn’t give up hope just yet.
The second interest that I know about is Paul Elliott and a Charlton fan from the lounges whose name I won’t give trying to cobble together small(er) investors. That is more recent.
Maybe a romantic dream in today’s game.
Will you be at the AGM? @Pico and co. could have a chat with you, at the very least you get a proper answer to your question, and maybe we will agree to try and 'reach out' to whoever it is.
Of course even if the asking price is half of what RD wants, it is hard to imagine supporters raising more than 10% max. But we have to explore these opportunities.
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It's not that I disagree with them. His story had changed 3 or 4 times except he has claimed that it is what he has said since the beginning (despite being shown evidence of what he originally said). He has then claim some kind if victory or vindication that he was right all along as his latest story happens to match up with that of Airmans.ken_shabby said:Could vereyone try and back off @DOUCHER a bit. He has offered a different perspective from his sources. From someone with absolutely NO sources, his are equally valid as Airman Brown, so while the message maybe unpopular, I don't see the need for all the invective. I complained when he hurled one or two at Airman, but since then, every time he posts he gets unnecessary abuse. Why the need to dig people out if you disagree with them - he may have a valid source of information too.
Personally I think he is just a massive bullshitter.3 -
Campus is open. But you didn’t know about this event or anything from me. It’s been put in public domain so anyone can essentially turn up. But if anything was to kick off, I would be obliged to call security @swords_aliveswords_alive said:
This is tonight. @sage - can we walk through on to the site do you know?KBslittlesis said:
I'm so angry at this.Chizz said:Here's a great opportunity to engage with, and ask questions of, someone who may be in the know...
https://gre.ac.uk/articles/public-relations/articles/join-us-for-dodgeball-and-fizz-22-november-avery-hill
How can the University of Greenwich sell this fecking women as a success and inspiration??
I wish I was still in the UK. I'd be there with a long list of quotes to prove she's anything but.
Embarrassing.
Wednesday 22 November
4:30 PM – 7:30 PM
David Fussey Building, Avery Hill campus2 -
cantersaddick said:
It's not that I disagree with them. His story had changed 3 or 4 times except he has claimed that it is what he has said since the beginning (despite being shown evidence of what he originally said). He has then claim some kind if victory or vindication that he was right all along as his latest story happens to match up with that of Airmans.ken_shabby said:Could vereyone try and back off @DOUCHER a bit. He has offered a different perspective from his sources. From someone with absolutely NO sources, his are equally valid as Airman Brown, so while the message maybe unpopular, I don't see the need for all the invective. I complained when he hurled one or two at Airman, but since then, every time he posts he gets unnecessary abuse. Why the need to dig people out if you disagree with them - he may have a valid source of information too.
Personally I think he is just a massive bullshitter.
October 24
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I'm sure that's what you've been told and it may be that nothing will happen. However, I wouldn't have put it out there without having very solid and detailed information from more than one credible source. So I am confident that "there is nothing happening and it's been a non-story from the start" is simply not true.Fair enough but for me to be told what I've been told would suggest that if something was happening, it's not now - like you, we're only going by what others tell us.0 - Sponsored links:
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conveniently missed that one out didn't you canters. I want the takeover and I do not come on here to WUM people or condescend to them. When they start on me just for delivering news they might not want to here, that's a different matter. I have never said Airman was lying but by the same token, I wasn't lying or bullshitting either.2
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A recent TV interview with Duchâtelet on Canvas.be has been covered by several Belgian sports publications today. This is from Voetbalkrant.com, - translation by Google:
For the first time since the sale of Sint-Truiden to the Japanese from DMM.com, Roland Duchätelet reacts to the acquisition. The former chairman is pleased that more foreign investors are coming to Belgian clubs.
In De Afspraak op Canvas, Duchâtelet said: "You can not forget I joined StVV as a sponsor at the time, I took over the club when they had no money, and after a few years I took over Standard, but I was happy that I could get rid of the club after four years, football is not easy to make a profit. "
The entrepreneur surprises with the statement that he has actually earned nothing in football. "That is a misconception that is often made, it is very difficult to make ends meet in the football world, I have bought STVV to depute, but after Standard Belgian football was done mentally for me.
Now I have sold STVV because I no longer have my age to have a say in a club ", concludes the ex-chairman, who also gave it a good sign that more foreign investors are coming to Belgian clubs.
Further confirmation, if needed, that he wants out of football. However, putting that aside, he continues to show himself as a sort of Homo Sovieticus with his contradictions. It was not long ago that he said he felt compelled to buy STVV to stop it falling into the hands of foreign owners, yet now he welcomes all foreigners, (and their cash) with a new-found liberalism.
How nice!23 -
Doucher - can I respectfully ask you to please stop clogging up this thread - we can all go back and read what you've written. I'm fed up coming on here, seeing 30 new posts mostly from you justifying what you've said or not said. I'm not against you having your point of view - happy to read it. It's all the other stuff.17
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I was thinking that.Big in Brasov said:A recent TV interview with Duchâtelet on Canvas.be has been covered by several Belgian sports publications today. This is from Voetbalkrant.com, - translation by Google:
For the first time since the sale of Sint-Truiden to the Japanese from DMM.com, Roland Duchätelet reacts to the acquisition. The former chairman is pleased that more foreign investors are coming to Belgian clubs.
In De Afspraak op Canvas, Duchâtelet said: "You can not forget I joined StVV as a sponsor at the time, I took over the club when they had no money, and after a few years I took over Standard, but I was happy that I could get rid of the club after four years, football is not easy to make a profit. "
The entrepreneur surprises with the statement that he has actually earned nothing in football. "That is a misconception that is often made, it is very difficult to make ends meet in the football world, I have bought STVV to depute, but after Standard Belgian football was done mentally for me.
Now I have sold STVV because I no longer have my age to have a say in a club ", concludes the ex-chairman, who also gave it a good sign that more foreign investors are coming to Belgian clubs.
Further confirmation, if needed, that he wants out of football. However, putting that aside, he continues to show himself as a sort of Homo Sovieticus with his contradictions. It was not long ago that he said he felt compelled to buy STVV to stop it falling into the hands of foreign owners, yet now he welcomes all foreigners, (and their cash) with a new-found liberalism.
How nice!
Silly old scroat.0 -
Doubt you
Doubt yur
Doucher
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Thanks for posting #Big in Brasov. Excellent to have it from the horses mouth that he's no longer interested in football. I did think there was more than a hint of the Poor Me's about it though. Must be a Limburg thing.4
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I know I am right the AFC thing was off the table in its entirety before the new interest
The new interest was only that it was an interested person or persons not a consortium looking at the viability of purchasing cafc including the valley
Then things should’ve gone on to progress under the guise of best business practices in silence
No more needed to be looked in to by us the fans or divulged by those involved either on the very outskirts of the deal or those smack in the middle
It’s not helpful giving people a false hopes especially when you consider the emotional way in which people rightly view RD and his plebs
Also it gives out the false message from those working on the potential interest
I also know that in every deal there’s a level of posturing and it’s done on both sides in this situation it is happening right now it got to the point I said a couple of weeks ago where you have to be prepared to walk away
So yes your right don’t give up all hope just yet as it’s all part of negotiation
But there has been a whole lot of shit posted on here and I can tell you 99% of it has been unintentional from the posters due to them being told bullshit but there is still a lot of bullshit being put out there
As the great cardigan once said WIOTOS is the time to dissect for now patience and backing away is the best option both emotionally and on here and in print
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If Doucher could find a nice happy way of saying we're stuck with Roland I'm sure he would.0
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Obviously, take these things with as much of a pinch of salt as you like, but I have heard - completely independently of Airman - that the deal is not off. I got that info yesterday, but with the potential corroboration in the last couple of pages on this thread, I held off on mentioning.
That's not to say there isn't some way to go yet, but things weren't ever dead in the water.20
