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Peter Varney leaves Ebbsfleet....

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,844

    Angeldust who is known to be reliable has said that he was asked to step down as they found out about his involvement with us and the takeover, but wasn’t able to verify.

    As has been said above I (kind of) hope it’s a case like his rather than health related, hope all is ok.

    But why ask him to step down now when his aborted attempt to engage RD was public knowledge many months ago? Indeed Reg is on record about it.

    It was assumed then that he was acting as an honest broker - maybe the dynamics have changed and he is now an active participant in a bid. Who knows, but the reasons Angeldust quotes don't make sense to me unless this is now the case.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I heard something ages ago that PV definitely wanted to differentiate between his Ebbsfleet job and Charlton loyalties. He wanted it clear and known that Charlton was his past and he was now committed to Ebbsfleet for the future.

    IF, and it's a big if, the opportunity to rebuild his beloved Charlton was too tempting and he has effectively done himself out of a job I think he would end up with an ever greater level of hero worship on here.

    Rightly so
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,169

    Angeldust who is known to be reliable has said that he was asked to step down as they found out about his involvement with us and the takeover, but wasn’t able to verify.

    As has been said above I (kind of) hope it’s a case like his rather than health related, hope all is ok.

    That does make some sense if one of the rumoured bidders is backed by Kuwaiti money as Ebbsfleet is backed by Kuwaiti owners and there could well be a perceived conflict of interest.
  • cafc-west said:

    Angeldust who is known to be reliable has said that he was asked to step down as they found out about his involvement with us and the takeover, but wasn’t able to verify.

    As has been said above I (kind of) hope it’s a case like his rather than health related, hope all is ok.

    That does make some sense if one of the rumoured bidders is backed by Kuwaiti money as Ebbsfleet is backed by Kuwaiti owners and there could well be a perceived conflict of interest.
    Or from a rival Middle Eastern state...
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    I’d love for Varney to be involved, to watch those on the other forum have a stroke if nothing else.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    edited January 2018

    Angeldust who is known to be reliable has said that he was asked to step down as they found out about his involvement with us and the takeover, but wasn’t able to verify.

    As has been said above I (kind of) hope it’s a case like his rather than health related, hope all is ok.

    Interesting take on how the Ebbsfleet owner found out.
  • You might want to see what's on our forum at Ebbsfleet:

    http://eufcfansforum.freeforums.net/thread/3256/peter-varney?page=1&scrollTo=81157
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Closed forum @fleet9GN and I’m not registering just for that

    What does it say if you don’t mind sharing?
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    No-one at Ebbsfleet knows any more than we do.
  • Closed forum @fleet9GN and I’m not registering just for that

    What does it say if you don’t mind sharing?

    Ah, sorry, forgot it was closed if you weren't registered. It's from our media guy and the exact quote is:

    "He didn't divulge any reasons when timing the press release to go out but he did say if it helped to fend off any rumours that we were fine to confirm he wasn't going back to Charlton."
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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    fleet9GN said:

    Closed forum @fleet9GN and I’m not registering just for that

    What does it say if you don’t mind sharing?

    Ah, sorry, forgot it was closed if you weren't registered. It's from our media guy and the exact quote is:

    "He didn't divulge any reasons when timing the press release to go out but he did say if it helped to fend off any rumours that we were fine to confirm he wasn't going back to Charlton."
    What is the general assumption Fleet.

    Did he leave on good terms?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Not going back to Charlton is not the same as not brokering a deal for Charlton.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

    I’d love for Varney to be involved, to watch those on the other forum have a stroke if nothing else.

    Especially if Powell was appointed manager.


  • What is the general assumption Fleet.

    Did he leave on good terms?

    From what I can tell, yes (though he's not left yet). He and Dean Pooley, his successor, have worked quite closely in the past and he was at the game on Saturday in the usual place, and is going to Maidstone tomorrow and I assume our home game Saturday. Timing is a bit odd from our fans' perspective but I really have no axe to grind or point to prove on here, I just came along out of interest to see what was being said on this and other Charlton forums.

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    fleet9GN said:



    What is the general assumption Fleet.

    Did he leave on good terms?

    From what I can tell, yes (though he's not left yet). He and Dean Pooley, his successor, have worked quite closely in the past and he was at the game on Saturday in the usual place, and is going to Maidstone tomorrow and I assume our home game Saturday. Timing is a bit odd from our fans' perspective but I really have no axe to grind or point to prove on here, I just came along out of interest to see what was being said on this and other Charlton forums.

    Your input is much appreciated. Keep us posted please.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Cheers @fleet9GN
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    I’m sure Airman Brown could give Reg a call to find out what’s occurring and then splatter it over a website message board.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,917
    I think we all know AB is better than that and would only do so with PV's permission.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Solidgone said:

    I’m sure Airman Brown could give Reg a call to find out what’s occurring and then splatter it over a website message board.

    Works both ways I'm afraid.

    Airman went to great lengths to inform us of Peter's unsuccessful attempts to get a change of ownership at the valley.

    You cannot expect people to not make assumptions when news like this comes to the surface.
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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,917

    Solidgone said:

    I’m sure Airman Brown could give Reg a call to find out what’s occurring and then splatter it over a website message board.

    Works both ways I'm afraid.

    Airman went to great lengths to inform us of Peter's unsuccessful attempts to get a change of ownership at the valley.

    You cannot expect people to not make assumptions when news like this comes to the surface.
    Yes he did that with Peters agreement. This may be personal and completely irrelevant to Charlton so even if PV told AB as a friend he might not want it out anyway.

    If it is Charlton related it could be incredibly sensitive and so PV may bot be in a position to tell anyone let alone agree to it being shared on a Charlton forum.

    Anyway I'm sure AB can speak for himself.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Swisdom said:

    I heard something ages ago that PV definitely wanted to differentiate between his Ebbsfleet job and Charlton loyalties. He wanted it clear and known that Charlton was his past and he was now committed to Ebbsfleet for the future.

    IF, and it's a big if, the opportunity to rebuild his beloved Charlton was too tempting and he has effectively done himself out of a job I think he would end up with an ever greater level of hero worship on here.

    Rightly so

    That's all very well, but as @carly burn says above, VOTV went to great lengths to reveal a potential bid which PV was involve in, and the existence of it, and RD's apparent refusal to engage with it, was a key reason why the protests were quite virulent at the time.

  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited January 2018

    Solidgone said:

    I’m sure Airman Brown could give Reg a call to find out what’s occurring and then splatter it over a website message board.

    Works both ways I'm afraid.

    Airman went to great lengths to inform us of Peter's unsuccessful attempts to get a change of ownership at the valley.

    You cannot expect people to not make assumptions when news like this comes to the surface.
    That was obviously material to Charlton's future and of interest to many supporters, including the way it was handled by Duchatelet and Meire. I didn't "go to great lengths", I was provided with the emails by Peter who wanted it in the public domain, not least because of his frustration at the way RD, KM and RM had behaved.

    In this case, PV has quite obviously set out not to offer any further explanation, not just publicly but privately as well. However, some of us were already aware of an issue in the background, which is private, personal and not suitable for discussion here. Caution is all I have advised - and I have only done that because I can see that without that warning the speculation may run wild.
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951

    Swisdom said:

    I heard something ages ago that PV definitely wanted to differentiate between his Ebbsfleet job and Charlton loyalties. He wanted it clear and known that Charlton was his past and he was now committed to Ebbsfleet for the future.

    IF, and it's a big if, the opportunity to rebuild his beloved Charlton was too tempting and he has effectively done himself out of a job I think he would end up with an ever greater level of hero worship on here.

    Rightly so

    That's all very well, but as @carly burn says above, VOTV went to great lengths to reveal a potential bid which PV was involve in, and the existence of it, and RD's apparent refusal to engage with it, was a key reason why the protests were quite virulent at the time.

    There was speculation about whether Murray was behind his refusal to engage, or did Meire even allow the e-mails to reach him.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127

    Swisdom said:

    I heard something ages ago that PV definitely wanted to differentiate between his Ebbsfleet job and Charlton loyalties. He wanted it clear and known that Charlton was his past and he was now committed to Ebbsfleet for the future.

    IF, and it's a big if, the opportunity to rebuild his beloved Charlton was too tempting and he has effectively done himself out of a job I think he would end up with an ever greater level of hero worship on here.

    Rightly so

    That's all very well, but as @carly burn says above, VOTV went to great lengths to reveal a potential bid which PV was involve in, and the existence of it, and RD's apparent refusal to engage with it, was a key reason why the protests were quite virulent at the time.

    There was speculation about whether Murray was behind his refusal to engage, or did Meire even allow the e-mails to reach him.
    A bit of both I believe.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    Solidgone said:

    I’m sure Airman Brown could give Reg a call to find out what’s occurring and then splatter it over a website message board.

    Works both ways I'm afraid.

    Airman went to great lengths to inform us of Peter's unsuccessful attempts to get a change of ownership at the valley.

    You cannot expect people to not make assumptions when news like this comes to the surface.
    That was obviously material to Charlton's future and of interest to many supporters, including the way it was handled by Duchatelet and Meire. I didn't "go to great lengths", I was provided with the emails by Peter who wanted it in the public domain, not least because of his frustration at the way RD, KM and RM had behaved.

    In this case, PV has quite obviously set out not to offer any further explanation, not just publicly but privately as well. However, some of us were already aware of an issue in the background, which is private, personal and not suitable for discussion here. Caution is all I have advised - and I have only done that because I can see that without that warning the speculation may run wild.
    Thanks for clarifying @Airman Brown

  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    My sources confirm that PV will not be coming back to Charlton.............he will be running the club from home :smile:
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited January 2018
    I just choose to believe that the timing of his departure, along with the likely impending takeover, are just too great to be coincidence. His former employer saying it is not Charlton related means nothing to me. Zero. About as much as when a club says their "manager has full confidence of the board." If anything, it often means the opposite. I would not be surprised if the club's statement was a diversion just so RD does not pull out of a potential deal just to avoid him. The fact PV himself has not squashed rumours only makes me think more that he is potentially involved. Until I hear from him otherwise, I think it's just too coincidental to not mean something. Or.... maybe I just wanna be hopeful about something.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    edited January 2018
    Everyone seems to hate Richard Murray but Varney a hero? My enduring memory of PV at CAFC is him doing an interview in the West Stand and proudly announcing he'd just given Les Reed a 3 or was it a five year contract!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,844
    Riviera said:

    Everyone seems to hate Richard Murray but Varney a hero? My enduring memory of PV at CAFC is him doing an interview in the West Stand and proudly announcing he'd just given Les Reed a 3 or was it a five year contract!

    Do you think Reg made that decision or was he just passing the contract to Les as authorised by Uncle Dickie?