The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

Mckforester said:

An agreement on price with both bidders is quite conceivable; The difference being the manner in which that price is met.

As Airman pointed out the statement said price & terms have been agreed

DOUCHER said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

DOUCHER said:

Fanny Fanackapan said:

Please could someone kindly summarize what Red Henry has confirmed.

Thanks .

He's confirmed that his lot don't have black hair, are foreign (if you live in Britain), don't have a moustache and haven't agreed anything but do have a lot of money. His reputation is firmly on the line with that lot.

You've stated they are Brits or Aussies, right?

1 of each

@DOUCHER the British bid is it a consortium or 1 person and are they rich?

Addickted said:

Now I know how those weird religious sects feel when they go round predicting the end of the World and then nothing happens.

Most of the time when cults end, they get themselves armed to the gills and then take on all comers. Do we know if the "regime" are stockpiling anything in those trenches down at Sparrows Lane?

Nothing like a Grapevine49 post to put things into perspective.

Grumpy said:

I am thinking that one party might buy the properties concerned, and another the people and their contracts including membership of the Football league. In that way RD may have been able to get nearer to his price. Am I crazy?

Yes, you are. They can't do that without the directors loans being covered off and those ITK would have heard about that if it was the case.

My worries, and hence my nervous disposition on this, is that we'll get Spivs Mark 2, just want to see who these people are.

DOUCHER said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

DOUCHER said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

DOUCHER said:

Fanny Fanackapan said:

Please could someone kindly summarize what Red Henry has confirmed.

Thanks .

He's confirmed that his lot don't have black hair, are foreign (if you live in Britain), don't have a moustache and haven't agreed anything but do have a lot of money. His reputation is firmly on the line with that lot.

You've stated they are Brits or Aussies, right?

1 of each

I really hope you're wrong, but still treat your posts the same as anyone else's, cards are on the table, battle of ITKness is here, time will tell who is the winner.

I'd piss meself if it's David Essex or Scooby Doo

Doubt its Scooby - never had a moustache

Redhenry said:

I have some clarity on the situation. Price had been agreed with two parties ie the price that will get the deal over the line. But neither party has met this.

Th price has been agreed according to RM?

AddickUpNorth said:

Branson.

Branson hates football.

cafcwill said:

I think we're missing the most important point here

Who bought all those red & white scarves that were rumoured to be bought?

Shhh... all will be revealed eventually...

ShootersHillGuru said:

I realise I’m being thick but exactly how can both buying parties have had their bids progressed to their prospective lawyers for finalising ? The only possible reason I can think is that Roland is selling the club to one and the The Valley and Sparrows to the other or is this just bollox.

It's like if you're selling your house and two buyers meet the valuation. You sell it to the first (or whichever you choose I guess), and the other hangs around in case it falls through.

Airman Brown said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Airman Brown said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Airman Brown said:

cafcfan1990 said:

It's only my opinion. I had a contact involved with the Scottish consortium and I know for a fact they are gone and won't be coming back.

I believe RD is playing a waiting game and trying to use the two parties to get the best deal. Murrays statement yesterday would back that view up.

Nobody is going to pay anywhere near RD's original asking price. The best he can hope for is some decent promotional clauses.

The good news is that would mean he would rather sell to the party capable of getting us up, rather than spiting us as some have suggested.

I agree with all of that, but the fact remains that Murray's statement says: "We are now just waiting for their respective lawyers to finalise the sale and purchase agreement."

That is not consistent with the idea those two parties are still negotiating on price or are unwilling to meet the price they have "agreed".

yeah obviously a fair point given the wording of the statement.

But I just don't buy the fact two parties are off finalising a deal. So that means one party are going to spend a fortune and end up with nothing? I can't see any respectable businessman being that stupid.

It's entirely possible that figures are agreed, but not the conditions. For example, I know Roland wanted 5mil from the Scottish group if we were promoted to the Champ.

Maybe Roland has agreed to sell to parties for 35 mil, and its being negotiated how much of that figure will be paid up front.

No, that's why the statement refers to the "terms" also being agreed.

so you believe Murray, that two parties are both working with their lawyers to finalise the deal?

What he says is that "we" are just waiting for this to happen. I think the potential area of doubt from that form of words is whether either of them will actually put the money they have agreed on the table when it comes to it. It cannot be the price itself or the terms.

To those people arguing that Murray is a liar and therefore the statement is not to be trusted, I would simply say that there is a world of difference between saying things at public meetings or on the margins of them that are not robust and putting out a formal statement with your name attached to specific remarks. Murray knows that.

It's also naive to think his only motivation would be to head off protests in the short-term and therefore he will say anything to do that. Why would he bother? In the medium term his reputation would be destroyed and that's what he cares about.

To my knowledge, the planned protest in the car park before Murray's first communcation via the Trust was the first protest in which he was to be the main focus. Rather than being forced to come out and talk to an angry crowd, which he wouldn't, he cleverly arranged for the communication to be on his terms.

With this in mind, to avoid protests turning on him I believe it likely to be factor in what he actually says and how often he says it. The statement is so wooly as to allow him to explain what he meant after the event - just look at the variety of possible scenarios we've come up with on this thread, all plausible. Now that he's pretty much the last man standing he's keen to buy himself some time as he knows that's what Roland is doing.

cafcfan1990 said:

Airman Brown said:

cafcfan1990 said:

It's only my opinion. I had a contact involved with the Scottish consortium and I know for a fact they are gone and won't be coming back.

I believe RD is playing a waiting game and trying to use the two parties to get the best deal. Murrays statement yesterday would back that view up.

Nobody is going to pay anywhere near RD's original asking price. The best he can hope for is some decent promotional clauses.

The good news is that would mean he would rather sell to the party capable of getting us up, rather than spiting us as some have suggested.

I agree with all of that, but the fact remains that Murray's statement says: "We are now just waiting for their respective lawyers to finalise the sale and purchase agreement."

That is not consistent with the idea those two parties are still negotiating on price or are unwilling to meet the price they have "agreed".

yeah obviously a fair point given the wording of the statement.

But I just don't buy the fact two parties are off finalising a deal. So that means one party are going to spend a fortune and end up with nothing? I can't see any respectable businessman being that stupid.

It's entirely possible that figures are agreed, but not the conditions. For example, I know Roland wanted 5mil from the Scottish group if we were promoted to the Champ.

Maybe Roland has agreed to sell to parties for 35 mil, and its being negotiated how much of that figure will be paid up front.

Why would anybody pay Roland money if it's the new owner that has invested in the squad and possibly employed a better manager to get us up? Sweet FA to do with Roland.

SoundAsa£ said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Surely someone from CAST/CARD etc, can ask the club/Murray ASAP to clarify his statement and clear up the misunderstanding.....or is that too simple a thing to achieve?
It’s well known that Richard Murray reads the forums and no doubt is already well aware of the confusion that’s been caused. Interesting to see if he clarifies the situation.....and if not why not?
Does it mean he deliberately set out to confuse us all.....the Richard Murray I once knew would have reacted very swiftly to clear things up.......nowadays, sadly, I really don’t know?

Neither does Murray.

Exactly what doesn’t he know Elfy.......after all he made the statement!

Aagghh ffs, Murray is the new puppet after squirrel face slithered out of the office.

Murray has been told what to put out to the fans. I do not believe a word what comes out of the Duchatelet camp.

Having said that, of course I believe we are being sold!

SoundAsa£ said:

David Beckham?

He can come out of retirement.

RedChaser said:

Forget Beckham he's only worth c£340m it's @Henry Irving 's long lost American relative James Irving;

REAL TIME NET WORTH — as of 3/1/18
$8.4 B

If it is Beckham I suppose Victoria could engage with the fans by flogging programmes.