The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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A combination of takeover rumours and wheeling Murray out did the desired job of muting the protests as far as the Club was concerned.
@Davidsmith and now it seems Bob Whitehand have questioned how close a takeover really is.
Rubberbloke did his job well from the Club's perspective.2 -
I think a combination of Bowyer and Jackson taking temporary charge of the team, and the team getting to the play-offs, had far more to do with the suspension of protests than anything else. It certainly did from my perspective.8
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I won't deny that the improvement on the field was a factor but the takeover rumours, with Murray's intervention supposedly adding credibility, happened before then and took the sting out of it just as people were becoming increasingly frustrated with scouse bullshit.Isawsummersplay said:I think a combination of Bowyer and Jackson taking temporary charge of the team, and the team getting to the play-offs, had far more to do with the suspension of protests than anything else. It certainly did from my perspective.
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A lot of corbyn’s Mates are complete nutcases, Corbyn himself I think is a decent enough bloke.Goonerhater said:just because someone is a total knob head/arsehole dont mean to say his mates etc are i hear Corybns neighbour is a nice chap
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worthy of a flag there --- almost2
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He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!LargeAddick said:0 -
Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.2
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Must be close surely. Why else would Muir and Murphy pitch up so prominently.4
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It's going to be a long summer...1
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I agree hence the use of the word 'supposedly.'Isawsummersplay said:Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.
However CARD, with key members like CAST having a constitutional duty to (try and) engage with the Club, probably felt there was little alternative once Murray stuck his head over the parapet but to cease protests in the event of what has transpired to be a pretend takeover as removing Duchatelet was CARD's raison d'etre and continued protests with a pending takeover would have been absurd.
Rubberbloke has taken us all for mugs in my opinion.0 - Sponsored links:
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Was that sale anything to do (coincidentlly!) with one of his own property development companies?SoundAsa£ said:
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!LargeAddick said:0 -
None of it has anything to do with Rubashow, who is a junior figure and of no relevance. He certainly hasn’t been masterminding some deception to stifle protests. Do you really think he was responsible for Meire leaving, the detailed work carried out by PwC, Mishcon, and the public appearances of the two Muirs, McLeish and Murphy?LenGlover said:
I agree hence the use of the word 'supposedly.'Isawsummersplay said:Well Len, all I would say is that Murray's credibility had long since gone, and I for one stopped believing anything he said for at least the last 2-3 years.
However CARD, with key members like CAST having a constitutional duty to (try and) engage with the Club, probably felt there was little alternative once Murray stuck his head over the parapet but to cease protests in the event of what has transpired to be a pretend takeover as removing Duchatelet was CARD's raison d'etre and continued protests with a pending takeover would have been absurd.
Rubberbloke has taken us all for mugs in my opinion.
There are and have been two considerations - 1) is Duchatelet genuinely trying to sell the club and 2) would protests have commanded widespread support. As far as I’m concerned, the answers are yes and no.
If there is no takeover, Duchatelet will not enjoy the close season.10 -
Not sure about that bob......but I think I am right in saying he did offer it to us but at the time money was very tight and we were unwilling to cough up.bobmunro said:
Was that sale anything to do (coincidently!) with one of his own property development companies?SoundAsa£ said:
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!LargeAddick said:
Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse.
Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place.
I’m pretty certain he lost a shed load of money in the Spanish property collapse of a few years back, which may well have prompted him having to sell when he did?0 -
Story I heard was that Bob W looked at that land and didn’t believe it had development potential - but that could be a version of didn’t want to proceed for other reasons. There was a plan to sell various assets to directors but it was abandoned I think because of the 2009 loans - the famous £7m. My timeline might be out on that though.SoundAsa£ said:
Not sure about that bob......but I think I am right in saying he did offer it to us but at the time money was very tight and we were unwilling to cough up.bobmunro said:
Was that sale anything to do (coincidently!) with one of his own property development companies?SoundAsa£ said:
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!LargeAddick said:
Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse.
Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place.
The house in Lansdowne Mews was acquired in 1998 and sold in 2010. That was critical land for the east stand and SE corner, both spectator access and viable construction methodology without affecting the pitch during the season.
What caught the staff out was the sale of the adjacent disabled parking - nobody on site knew until the new owner started using it. The deal was done at the end of Steve Waggott’s tenure in 2010 so the assumption is he knew, but never told the SMT. Steve Kavanagh wasn’t a director at that point, Peter Varney had gone.
Mick Everett was left trying to chase off the developer so the disabled parking could operate until it came to light the club had sold the land to him. Complete farce.1 -
Very good at his job and a nice guy.bobmunro said:
Ravi Patel, Commercial Manager.ForeverAddickted said:Who is the fella sitting behind Richard Murray
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If the club is sold, let's say tomorrow? Doesn't that mean Vetokele is a Charlton player?0
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Bet he can't wait to get back. Doesn't seem like he's performed that well at St Truiden so doubt they'll want to sign him.MuttleyCAFC said:If the club is sold, let's say tomorrow? Doesn't that mean Vetokele is a Charlton player?
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One year left on his contract.MuttleyCAFC said:If the club is sold, let's say tomorrow? Doesn't that mean Vetokele is a Charlton player?
No way will he play league one.
Loaned out next season then released.0 -
That would make sense as surely otherwise a sale would have been pushed through. I think he may be a decent option next season!0
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Shots fired3
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I think Bob and Prague need to take this to Makros37
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Cheeky barsteward. "...a supporters site".
I'll have him know, it's "THE supporters' site!"26 -
5/6 each of two - all in run or not!!cafcdave123 said:I think Bob and Prague need to take this to Makros
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The day it happened, the new owners hired a couple of bully boys to stop disabled fans parking there or be charged a tenner. Some listened, some didn’t.Airman Brown said:
Story I heard was that Bob W looked at that land and didn’t believe it had development potential - but that could be a version of didn’t want to proceed for other reasons. There was a plan to sell various assets to directors but it was abandoned I think because of the 2009 loans - the famous £7m. My timeline might be out on that though.SoundAsa£ said:
Not sure about that bob......but I think I am right in saying he did offer it to us but at the time money was very tight and we were unwilling to cough up.bobmunro said:
Was that sale anything to do (coincidently!) with one of his own property development companies?SoundAsa£ said:
He also inexplicably sold the plot of land next to The Sam Bartram entrance for property development, making any future East Stand development plans virtually impossible!LargeAddick said:
Which ever way one looks at it, it was a very very sad day and a decision by both the club and Whitehand that may well in the future bite us severely in the arse.
Maybe Airman can refresh us with a better summary of what (and when), actually took place.
The house in Lansdowne Mews was acquired in 1998 and sold in 2010. That was critical land for the east stand and SE corner, both spectator access and viable construction methodology without affecting the pitch during the season.
Mick Everett was left trying to chase off the developer so the disabled parking could operate until it came to light the club had sold the land to him. Complete farce.
Mick did a good job, but basically the disabled parking was lost.0 -
It just goes to prove they all read the number one site.6
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Probably because of my contribution on the Roland out threadblackpool72 said:It just goes to prove they all read the number one site.
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And still no promoteblackpool72 said:
Probably because of my contribution on the Roland out threadblackpool72 said:It just goes to prove they all read the number one site.
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Bob while you’re lurking any chance you can cover the other points raised, like clarifying what you meant about the owner thing?
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