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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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RICHARD MURRAYMissed It said:I think it's a completely reasonable assertion to make. Roland didn't know Varney from a whole a hole in the ground when he first bought Charlton, even when Varney first approached regarding a sale he didn't seem to have a clue. Now he lives in everlasting fear of Varney's involvement with the club AFTER he's sold it? WTF is that all about? The only person who would be worried about that is someone who still plans on being here after Roland is gone, and we all know who that is.
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What wedding?Anna_Kissed said:
If its a done deal why not now announce it?
Waiting until the weekend to upstage the Royal wedding.
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Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.0 -
IStig said:
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
I think I’m right in saying it only needs one of them to do that in order to scupper any thoughts in that direction i.e. they all have to be in agreement.
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Soon. Very soon.
One could say imminent.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.4 -
Oh no!!!! Andrew Muir's great great great great grandfather was a convict! EFL block the deal as he's not a fit and proper person!Addickted said:Soon. Very soon.
One could say imminent.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.20 -
trust the EFL to get all touchy about convicts just when we get Aussies interested. This club is cursed!!17
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The EFL info I had was current when we discussed it at Rochdale - no reason to think it is now.Addickted said:Soon. Very soon.
One could say imminent.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.0 -
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.Stig said:
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.7 -
We’ve heard nothing but his side, which he went out of his way to share by whispering about Varney to fans, but only rarely on the record. He lied about Kavanagh at the Bromley meeting in 2013 and was called out by Wendy Perfect to his face at the time.cafc-west said:
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.Missed It said:.
kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.7 - Sponsored links:
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I think even after the c*nt has officially sold the club....fans should still protest and embaress him in belgium...for taking so long.
His wish to continue taking the piss needs to be matched with retaliation.
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Gone or not. I cannot wait for his Hotel to open up in St Truiden.
Particularly after a long session in the Brewery.15 -
Let's all sing together:
Bollocks to Roland
The evil old scrote
He's fucked us like others
Left nothing of note
We hope to be rid of him any time soon
Just leave us and fuck off you Moro is loon.
And hope not to se
Fixed that for you.J BLOCK said:
It's come from Belgium 20 twitter account which can get a bit exuberant at times but is generally well sourced and well meaning.cafc-west said:
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.Missed It said:.
kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.1 -
RD accusing others of taking money out of the club. Pot. Kettle.2
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"Stole money from the club"??? That is a slanderous accusation and if he is unable to prove it , said statement could leave him facing very serious legal ramifications!Airman Brown said:
We’ve heard nothing but his side, which he went out of his way to share by whispering about Varney to fans, but only rarely on the record. He lied about Kavanagh at the Bromley meeting in 2013 and was called out by Wendy Perfect to his face at the time.cafc-west said:
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.Missed It said:.
kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.
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This is rather a snide comment. Who are you to decide who is right and who is wrong? What we do know is that this group have spent a lot of their own time and money trying to get rid of Roland so why don’t you just bore off.J BLOCK said:
It's come from Belgium 20 who are often wrong.cafc-west said:
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.Missed It said:.
kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.10 -
Christ, I can't take another season of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!oohaahmortimer said:Once we know what division we are in, at the end of next season, the deal will be finalised
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Why would Roland give a toss about Varney?kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
Someone else might but has nothing to sell.1 - Sponsored links:
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If Australians are involved.....Addickted said:Soon. Very soon.
One could say imminent.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.0 -
The point is they're not announcing it are they, so clearly something holding things up, what is it?Mal said:
Being favorites for the take-over for so long, then turning up in Charton scarves and ties for the playoffs, if that's not giving anything away then I dont know what is. As I see it it's a done deal, apart from the announcement.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?1 -
Who am I to decide who is right or wrong? I’m someone who has seen numerous posts on twitter from them with wrong information, not really hard pal.Redrobo said:
This is rather a snide comment. Who are you to decide who is right and who is wrong? What we do know is that this group have spent a lot of their own time and money trying to get rid of Roland so why don’t you just bore off.J BLOCK said:
It's come from Belgium 20 who are often wrong.cafc-west said:
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.Missed It said:.
kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
I'm not commenting on the work B20 have done, I think they're fantastic. I'm saying a lot of their info has been wrong. I won't bore off unfortunately.21 -
Personally, I think Roland has conflated Varney with Tony Fernandez and his shenanigans. Daisy had the wrong end of the stick, then passed it Roland. The old duffer thought Chris Powell was called Bart, it's not hard to believe he's got everything arse-about-face.addick05 said:
"Stole money from the club"??? That is a slanderous accusation and if he is unable to prove it , said statement could leave him facing very serious legal ramifications!Airman Brown said:
We’ve heard nothing but his side, which he went out of his way to share by whispering about Varney to fans, but only rarely on the record. He lied about Kavanagh at the Bromley meeting in 2013 and was called out by Wendy Perfect to his face at the time.cafc-west said:
I think this is all supposition. We don't know this to be facts. Not defending Murray but we have never really heard his side. He will largely only be able to repeat what Meire and Duchatelet told him or gave him permission to release. He's not an employee or there all the time. He has been the middle man to some extents. If he had not been there - things could, conceivably , have been even worse. But I (and I suspect) most of us don't know the true facts. Would like to hear his side of the story, if we ever will, when RD has gone.Missed It said:.
kentaddick said:
he's said in the past that roland has been having pangs of paranoia that peter varney is involved in one of, if not some of the bids. That's the reason for the delay.sillav nitram said:
Are your sources @Airman Brown not willing to reveal why it’s taking so long to get over the line?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
If it’s now true that it is the Aussies, then surely that’s not giving anything away?
And that's all down to the poison Murray had been dripping in the ears of Daisy and Roland. Why anybody would consider letting this guy stick around after a takeover is beyond me. Richard Murray's best interest and Charlton's best interest have not been the same thing for long time now.
RD believes Varney organised the protests and that Varney stole money from the club - which he has told fans - and no doubt the same lie has already been put to the Australians.
It's easy to let everyone continue in the misunderstanding though, which Murray could quite simply rectify. It suits his purposes after all, he's not the one telling lies and the anti-Varney agenda is served.0 -
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership.Airman Brown said:
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.Stig said:
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens.
Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.1 -
Katrien and Varney had a rather public spat as well at one point didn't they? Don't think everything RD has heard about Varney has come from Murray to be fair i'm sure she has stuck her nose in as well.1
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They are not “a group” of seven though, as you know. At least three of them wouldn’t put Murray out if he was on fire.Davidsmith said:
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership.Airman Brown said:
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.Stig said:
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens.
Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.10 -
Peaceful protest only pleaseAirman Brown said:
They are not “a group” of seven though, as you know. At least three of them wouldn’t put Murray out if he was on fire.Davidsmith said:
I heard the same, my question is why have they not called a Creditors meeting, isn't there a requirement in their Loan Documentation to inform Lenders of a potential change of ownership.Airman Brown said:
Simply they have had no approach or contact from the Aussies or re the Aussies as of yesterday.Stig said:
Airman, can I just check that I understand you correctly. Are you suggesting that the ex-directors are looking after the interests of the club by blocking any deal that would give Duchatelet any level of control over the club or income from the club post-sale?Airman Brown said:
There is conflicting information, some of it anecdotal, but I was also told that it is a “clean” deal - and that is the only way (lease element) it can be completed without the ex-directors.PragueAddick said:
You're right. Sorry for the diversion. But at least now we know Bob's a Lifer, I'm sure everyone would really be pleased if he could explain his tweet which kicked it all off.razil said:I know they’re both adults just not sure this should carry on in full view now
FWIW, I've heard this morning from other decent sources that the rumours regarding the structure of the deal (landlease, cut on transfers and funding via share issue) have no credibility. Which seems like good news to me.
Maybe their Lawyers are watching to see what happens.
Either way you would assume as a group of seven substantially wealthy individuals ,that Roland's actions are being monitored.
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Actually you could very well be correctPedro45 said:
Oh no!!!! Andrew Muir's great great great great grandfather was a convict! EFL block the deal as he's not a fit and proper person!Addickted said:Soon. Very soon.
One could say imminent.
Down to EFL is still my understanding (though @Airman Brown has sources that say different for sure).
The flag will be the announcement of the Sunderland takeover which is also with the EFL.
Not saying it is with regard Charlton, but a recent/current change of ownership had issues over the terminology 'conviction'. I assume it can mean slightly different things outside the UK.
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