How do the Tories need to change?
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The thing about being a likeable bumbling buffoon on TV, is that when you accept a job as the 3rd most important minister in the UK, you actually have to be a professional politician. Bojo didn't realise the cameras were off.Cordoban Addick said:the verdict of Boris Johnson’s tenure at the FCO by the Attorney General of Anguilla, who doesn’t mince words.
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Itv1 mate. You're welcome.harveys_gardener said:
The thing about being a likeable bumbling buffoon on TV, is that when you accept a job as the 3rd most important minister in the UK, you actually have to be a professional politician. Bojo didn't realise the cameras were off.Cordoban Addick said:the verdict of Boris Johnson’s tenure at the FCO by the Attorney General of Anguilla, who doesn’t mince words.
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The thing about Boris Johnson is that he is quite reliable politician in that he is so clearly and completely out for himself. In some ways not a dangerous politician as his first commitment is to get into power. He does not care too much about any policy or the detail and only interested in any policy point in how it gets him closer to power. He is not a want to be charasmatic visionary who believes in his own brand of bullshit. Too many of those in the Conservative party.0
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He doesn't concern himself with the detail and just wings it. This can have terrible effects and implications and he is probably even less qualified to be Prime Minister than Trump is to be President. He is corrupt, dishonest, doesn't focus in meetings and cares little for anybody other than him. He can be quite bumbling and self effacing and amazingly it allows him to be forgiven for all of his faults!2
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Don't disagree with that either.MuttleyCAFC said:He doesn't concern himself with the detail and just wings it. This can have terrible effects and implications and he is probably even less qualified to be Prime Minister than Trump is to be President. He is corrupt, dishonest, doesn't focus in meetings and cares little for anybody other than him. He can be quite bumbling and self effacing and amazingly it allows him to be forgiven for all of his faults!
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Trump's vocal support of Boris can surely only boost his unpopularity with the British public.
When you're only vote of confidence is from a man who has drawn thousands out to protest under a giant baby balloon, you know you're not doing well.1 -
Why do people think they will not be caught doing this?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/14/minister-steps-down-after-sending-explicit-messages-to-constituents4 -
It was only just the once.Cordoban Addick said:Why do people think they will not be caught doing this?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/14/minister-steps-down-after-sending-explicit-messages-to-constituents
2000 times.
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I have no idea. It's not as if there has not been plenty of precedents. Demonstrates a depressing lack of intelligence.Cordoban Addick said:Why do people think they will not be caught doing this?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/14/minister-steps-down-after-sending-explicit-messages-to-constituents2 -
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You would think so. There’s a lot of weirdos out there that go to march for Tommy Robinson. They’ll lap bojo up in a second. Salt of the earth Brit who stands for queen and country, backed up by the melon that is TrumpCroydon said:Trump's vocal support of Boris can surely only boost his unpopularity with the British public.
When you're only vote of confidence is from a man who has drawn thousands out to protest under a giant baby balloon, you know you're not doing well.
I think channel 5 should do a show where Trump, Tommy and Bojo go on a road trip to rediscover what Britain should be all about3 -
And he is supplying all the easily traceable hard evidence a tabloid journalist will need.cafcfan said:
I have no idea. It's not as if there has not been plenty of precedents. Demonstrates a depressing lack of intelligence.Cordoban Addick said:Why do people think they will not be caught doing this?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/14/minister-steps-down-after-sending-explicit-messages-to-constituents0 -
Taking back control my arse!
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/parliament-conventions-tories-torn-up_uk_5b50f327e4b0b15aba8cf467?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ncid=newsletter-ukThe Waugh Zone 200718
So the Tories have gone against eight parliamentary conventions in recent months, things that make our Democracy work, things that are I think are at the very core of the worlds oldest parliament.
1. Breaking the pairing whip.
2. Misleading parliament.
3. Stopped nodding through.
4. Not handing out white papers.
5. Suspending cabinet responsibility and not telling anyone.
6. Not attending opposition day votes.
7. Loading committees in their favour.
8. Try to break up early for summer.
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Is this the 'sovereignty' brexiters yearn for?Cordoban Addick said:Taking back control my arse!
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/parliament-conventions-tories-torn-up_uk_5b50f327e4b0b15aba8cf467?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ncid=newsletter-ukThe Waugh Zone 200718
So the Tories have gone against eight parliamentary conventions in recent months, things that make our Democracy work, things that are I think are at the very core of the worlds oldest parliament.
1. Breaking the pairing whip.
2. Misleading parliament.
3. Stopped nodding through.
4. Not handing out white papers.
5. Suspending cabinet responsibility and not telling anyone.
6. Not attending opposition day votes.
7. Loading committees in their favour.
8. Try to break up early for summer.
They are an absolute bloody disgrace!0 -
Its arrogance pure and simple.Cordoban Addick said:Taking back control my arse!
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/parliament-conventions-tories-torn-up_uk_5b50f327e4b0b15aba8cf467?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ncid=newsletter-ukThe Waugh Zone 200718
So the Tories have gone against eight parliamentary conventions in recent months, things that make our Democracy work, things that are I think are at the very core of the worlds oldest parliament.
1. Breaking the pairing whip.
2. Misleading parliament.
3. Stopped nodding through.
4. Not handing out white papers.
5. Suspending cabinet responsibility and not telling anyone.
6. Not attending opposition day votes.
7. Loading committees in their favour.
8. Try to break up early for summer.
They are an absolute bloody disgrace!
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Isn't Tommy otherwise engaged?cabbles said:
You would think so. There’s a lot of weirdos out there that go to march for Tommy Robinson. They’ll lap bojo up in a second. Salt of the earth Brit who stands for queen and country, backed up by the melon that is TrumpCroydon said:Trump's vocal support of Boris can surely only boost his unpopularity with the British public.
When you're only vote of confidence is from a man who has drawn thousands out to protest under a giant baby balloon, you know you're not doing well.
I think channel 5 should do a show where Trump, Tommy and Bojo go on a road trip to rediscover what Britain should be all about
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I still wonder about that phrase. At what point did the man/woman in the street ever have control in this (or any, for that matter) country?Cordoban Addick said:Taking back control my arse!
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/parliament-conventions-tories-torn-up_uk_5b50f327e4b0b15aba8cf467?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ncid=newsletter-ukThe Waugh Zone 200718
So the Tories have gone against eight parliamentary conventions in recent months, things that make our Democracy work, things that are I think are at the very core of the worlds oldest parliament.
1. Breaking the pairing whip.
2. Misleading parliament.
3. Stopped nodding through.
4. Not handing out white papers.
5. Suspending cabinet responsibility and not telling anyone.
6. Not attending opposition day votes.
7. Loading committees in their favour.
8. Try to break up early for summer.
They are an absolute bloody disgrace!
As for points 1-8 @Cordoban Addick...spot on. We are in a fecking mess because of Cameron and May and she is getting increasingly desperate to shore up this government. Her selling of her deal on Marr at the weekend was a mess. She didn't sound convinced herself, let alone trying to persuade the public that she knows what she's doing.
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They need an effective opposition. the0
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There was me thinking it was because of a desperate government at war with itself and with no idea how to fix the countries woe's and being prepared to break any moral or respected convention that it can to hold on to power. And all for the good of the Conservative party rather than the country.smudge7946 said:They need an effective opposition. the
Now I know it is the oppositions fault though.
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http://home.bt.com/video/theresa-may-fan-tells-her-she-is-the-bionic-woman-91364284431486
I wouldn't call her the bionic woman, more wonder woman, I wonder how long she has left.0 -
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But...DIANE ABBOTT!
[just thought I'd get in there first]8 -
A decent opposition would have put this shower of shit to bed though. They have failed miserably.1
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That may well be true, but the breaking of a number of rules and conventions are nothing to do with the opposition and shows how far and how dirty the govt will go to hang on to power.McBobbin said:A decent opposition would have put this shower of shit to bed though. They have failed miserably.
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When you try to hang on to power it always bites you in the bum! Always!0
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I’m sure that this scandal will be front page Daily Mail. How dare Jo Swinson be allowed maternity leave whilst claiming parliamentary privileges.2
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I’ve been giving Brandon Lewis a bit of a pushing about a primary school in his area the council want to close, he’s a slippery bu44er so it doesn’t surprise me.0
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Says here https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/pairing-jo-swinson-brandon-lewis-julian-smith-brexit/ at the end that there have been 66 instances of pairing being broken, 52 by the opposition "according to conservative sources". I'd be interested in the full unbiased facts on this... When and why.0
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