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Summer 2018 transfer rumours

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  • Charltonparklane
    Charltonparklane Posts: 5,786
    moutuakilla said:

    Charltonparklane said:

    ross1 said:

    If we sign more than 2 before Saturday, I will be very surprised and even then they will probably not be match fit and not ready for a few weeks

    If we sign 2 before Saturday they probably wont even be 16 for a few weeks.
    Resorting to signing 15 year olds now? That is a new low
    That was the joke fella
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Got a feeling we will sign at least two of the trialists, and I think at least one will sign before Sunderland (Dawkins) and I think Ince will have another week with us before we sign him.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    I wonder whether Igor apparently staying then getting injured (so we can't shift him on now) has affected Bowyer's wages budget

    It's notable that with all the turnover of more recent signings, that we still have THREE players left from the Driessen era, Igor, Bauer and Sarr, all presumably on very high wages for this league
  • Marcus_cafc
    Marcus_cafc Posts: 60
    Lost for words on the situation at the moment. Can’t believe what’s going on. How can one man ruin our club. Fucking discrace. Fuck the Efl and fuck the people who thought this man was our ‘saviour’
  • Moo
    Moo Posts: 311
    Sage said:

    Got a feeling we will sign at least two of the trialists, and I think at least one will sign before Sunderland (Dawkins) and I think Ince will have another week with us before we sign him.

    Also We haven’t announced squad numbers yet. So hopefully there be some signings this week.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,028
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Oggy Red said:

    LargeAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Perhaps I'm being over optimistic, the transfer window is open for a few more weeks yet and there are still a lot of decent players either on the market or without a club. I can't see there being much or any cash available for Bowyer to spend but there is still time and room for some wheeling and dealing.
    After a few games, win, lose or draw, Bowyer and his team will have a clearer idea of who and what they want and don't want

    Friday week, after which loans only but seeing as you mention wheeling and dealing I am assuming you mean permanent deals so definitely not a 'few more weeks yet'

    There is a back door method too.
    Can be used after the permanent window closing while the loan window remains open.

    Apparently you can sign a player on a full contract, but he can only be registered as a loan - which then runs until 1st January, when the player's registration is made permanent.

    I've read it somewhere I'm sure, but I might have misunderstood.

    Not really a back door method, that's just a loan with option/obligation to buy in January. Same as what happens with loans now, like Mbappe's to PSG last summer. But indeed will be a way slightly around it if we want to buy a player in August but can't because the window is closed.
    I'm a fan of the back door method.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    2 and a bit days left.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Moo said:

    Sage said:

    Got a feeling we will sign at least two of the trialists, and I think at least one will sign before Sunderland (Dawkins) and I think Ince will have another week with us before we sign him.

    Also We haven’t announced squad numbers yet. So hopefully there be some signings this week.
    The old “squad numbers are not in so we are about to make signings” has historically been right up there with “we will announce loads of signings on 1st June when contracts are over” as things that hardly ever actually happen.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    Oggy Red said:

    LargeAddick said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    Perhaps I'm being over optimistic, the transfer window is open for a few more weeks yet and there are still a lot of decent players either on the market or without a club. I can't see there being much or any cash available for Bowyer to spend but there is still time and room for some wheeling and dealing.
    After a few games, win, lose or draw, Bowyer and his team will have a clearer idea of who and what they want and don't want

    Friday week, after which loans only but seeing as you mention wheeling and dealing I am assuming you mean permanent deals so definitely not a 'few more weeks yet'

    There is a back door method too.
    Can be used after the permanent window closing while the loan window remains open.

    Apparently you can sign a player on a full contract, but he can only be registered as a loan - which then runs until 1st January, when the player's registration is made permanent.

    I've read it somewhere I'm sure, but I might have misunderstood.

    Not really a back door method, that's just a loan with option/obligation to buy in January. Same as what happens with loans now, like Mbappe's to PSG last summer. But indeed will be a way slightly around it if we want to buy a player in August but can't because the window is closed.
    I'm a fan of the back door method.
    Yeah your boyfriend told me the same recently. Apparantly you would be 6 foot tall if you werent but now find it tough standing up straight
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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    Plus if someone like STVV wanted to sign Patrick Bauer and so match the fee we wanted, they've got until the end of August to sign him
  • bobcafc7
    bobcafc7 Posts: 447
    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
    And free agents can be signed after the 9th like Ince, Dawkins etc.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,230
    bobcafc7 said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
    And free agents can be signed after the 9th like Ince, Dawkins etc.
    But only until the end of August. After this they can’t play until January.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    So basically the simplification of the window hasn't worked then.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954

    What a crap thread. Not a rumour in sight of any possible names, not even wild guesswork or fantasy.

    Come on you lot, pull your finger out!

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Crusty54 said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
    And free agents can be signed after the 9th like Ince, Dawkins etc.
    But only until the end of August. After this they can’t play until January.
    If they are a free agent on the 9th we can sign them at any time. See best, leon
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    In case anyone is still in any doubt:

    This year the official deadline has been set at 5pm on Thursday 9 August.

    That means all Premier League and English Football League clubs must complete transfer deals to buy players before the top-flight season starts on Saturday 11 August.

    The EFL season is set to begin a week before on 4 August and clubs outside the top flight will still be able to sign unregistered players and loanees until 31 August.

    So while English clubs will be able to sell players until the end of August, buying activity will cease on 9 August.

    Italy is Friday 17 August, the day before Serie A begins.
    Spain, Germany and France, (and Scotland) all stay as 31 August.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    Cafc43v3r said:

    Crusty54 said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
    And free agents can be signed after the 9th like Ince, Dawkins etc.
    But only until the end of August. After this they can’t play until January.
    If they are a free agent on the 9th we can sign them at any time. See best, leon
    Rules have changed on that with the introduction of the new Transfer Window date

    https://www.efl.com/news/2018/february/earlier-closure-of-transfer-window-agreed-by-efl-clubs/

    Register players who ceased to be registered with a club during the period up until 31st August 2018
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  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Maybe i am being selfish and because of Charltons current situation, i dont see why we need a transfer window?

    If i wanted to leave my job or move on, why should i wait until the end of the season/ tax year? Just seems a bit ridiculous, clubs who prepare badly off season (always Charlton) will struggle and will not be able to rectify until the window opens, then it could be too late.

    Yes ideally if we have good owners/ well run club we will be organised enough for the new season and it wouldn't be such a problem, although i do still question why we need a transfer window, full stop.
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,031
    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Redrobo said:

    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
    So can only sign them until 31st, isn't that restraint of trade?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,031
    Cafc43v3r said:

    Redrobo said:

    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
    So can only sign them until 31st, isn't that restraint of trade?
    That could affect how the likes of Dawkins / Ince and Ward react.

    In the past some free agents have been happy to wait until a club gets an injury crisis and try their luck.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    Cafc43v3r said:

    Redrobo said:

    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
    So can only sign them until 31st, isn't that restraint of trade?
    You could claim the whole Transfer Window is a restraint of trade though

    i.e. like @johnnybev1987 mentions at the top of this page
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Redrobo said:

    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
    So can only sign them until 31st, isn't that restraint of trade?
    You could claim the whole Transfer Window is a restraint of trade though

    i.e. like @johnnybev1987 mentions at the top of this page
    You could but if you are out of work and unable to get paid for your professional services rendered then that is just wrong.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Redrobo said:

    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
    That's Roland buggered then. No more dirt cheap cast offs that nobody else wants.

  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    RedChaser said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Redrobo said:

    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    No
    So can only sign them until 31st, isn't that restraint of trade?
    You could claim the whole Transfer Window is a restraint of trade though

    i.e. like @johnnybev1987 mentions at the top of this page
    You could but if you are out of work and unable to get paid for your professional services rendered then that is just wrong.
    Does seem ripe for a legal challenge, a la Bosman.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Crusty54 said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
    And free agents can be signed after the 9th like Ince, Dawkins etc.
    But only until the end of August. After this they can’t play until January.
    If they are a free agent on the 9th we can sign them at any time. See best, leon
    Rules have changed on that with the introduction of the new Transfer Window date

    https://www.efl.com/news/2018/february/earlier-closure-of-transfer-window-agreed-by-efl-clubs/

    Register players who ceased to be registered with a club during the period up until 31st August 2018
    The date in there relates to when they ceased to be registered, not when they can sign.

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