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Summer 2018 transfer rumours

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    I suppose the argument is there is nothing stopping a club from signing Simon Dawkins etc. after 31st August and paying him a wage, its just they cant actually use the player in the First Team - Of course no club will do that as they wont want to fork out wages for a player when they're not going to be doing anything to earn them
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited August 2018
    You can sign them any time you want, they just can't play for you until January unless they are signed before that date. Was the exact same before this year with the old dates.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    Callumcafc said:

    You can sign them any time you want, they just can't play for you until January unless they are signed before that date. Was the exact same before this year with the old dates.

    Cant have been the same last season as we signed Leon Best at the end of November

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42159864
  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,286
    Richard J said:

    Can we still sign free agents outside the transfer window?

    As long as the player is a free agent before the transfer window closes then yes you can sign them anytime (except for a 3 week or so period before the next window/end of season i think)
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Callumcafc said:

    You can sign them any time you want, they just can't play for you until January unless they are signed before that date. Was the exact same before this year with the old dates.

    Cant have been the same last season as we signed Leon Best at the end of November

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42159864
    Different dates last year but same rule.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Airman Brown said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Crusty54 said:

    bobcafc7 said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    Scoham said:

    cfgs said:

    2 and a bit days left.

    The transfer window closes on the 9th.
    Does it I know the Prem window does I just assumed ours would stop before we commenced as well. oh well still not long.
    However we can make loan signings up to the end of August, which can also include the option to become permanent in January.
    And free agents can be signed after the 9th like Ince, Dawkins etc.
    But only until the end of August. After this they can’t play until January.
    If they are a free agent on the 9th we can sign them at any time. See best, leon
    Rules have changed on that with the introduction of the new Transfer Window date

    https://www.efl.com/news/2018/february/earlier-closure-of-transfer-window-agreed-by-efl-clubs/

    Register players who ceased to be registered with a club during the period up until 31st August 2018
    The date in there relates to when they ceased to be registered, not when they can sign.
    So I was right in the 1st place, sort of
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Belgian transfer window closes on 31st August. So he could still 'sell' any of our players to STTV.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    The Red Robin said:

    Belgian transfer window closes on 31st August. So he could still 'sell' any of our players to STTV.

    Yup!!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited August 2018
    Callumcafc said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Callumcafc said:

    You can sign them any time you want, they just can't play for you until January unless they are signed before that date. Was the exact same before this year with the old dates.

    Cant have been the same last season as we signed Leon Best at the end of November

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42159864
    Different dates last year but same rule.
    I might be wrong about this. I noticed that Joey Barton signed in December a couple of years ago for Burnley for instance and couldn't play until January but that was because he had already played for Rangers earlier that season. Not because it was outside the window in general.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    I could've sworn we were looking to sign someone like Nigel Reo Coker some years back but didn't because he couldn't play until January despite being a free agent.
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  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Give me a ' R
    Give me a ' U
    Give me a ' M
    Give me a ' O
    Give me a ' U
    Give me a ' R
    What does it spell? Thats right come on give us a rumour please, its far too quiet for my liking!
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I think you are right Callum, but I believe it was only December you couldn't sign free agent, and then again from 1st April.

    So you could sign free agents (as long as they became free agents before end of transfer window) anytime until 30th November, and then again from 2nd week in February until the end of March. Or something like that.

    Whereas now you can only sign free agents until 31st August, and then will be the same in January I assume.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    First off I don’t know about this rule.

    What I do think though is that being technically able to sign someone but then not being able to play them could be challenged in law. Why ? Because to all intents and purposes it prevents you getting a club because in reality no club is going to pay a player and then not be able to use him. There will be exceptions I’m sure (Hreidersson) but in the main in the real world it stops you getting a job. That is restraint of trade or at least I think it could be argued that it is.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    As far as signing a player who is a free agent, I'm almost certain they can be played even if they sign outside the window. We did it with Leon Best last year, Vaz Te the year before, and I believe Diarra and Eagles and Johnson 3-4 years ago.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    SDAddick said:

    As far as signing a player who is a free agent, I'm almost certain they can be played even if they sign outside the window. We did it with Leon Best last year, Vaz Te the year before, and I believe Diarra and Eagles and Johnson 3-4 years ago.

    There are still registration windows that they have to be signed within.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Scoham said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
    Scoham said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
    I believe if say a player is released today, we could sign them anytime before 31st August. Previously we would have been able to sign them until 30th November and they would have been able to play straight away. Now if we sign them between 1st September-30th November, they cannot play until January.
  • Valleyofdreams
    Valleyofdreams Posts: 149
    I wouldn’t waste your time worrying about when it opens shuts and all the rest of it, we probably won’t sign anyone anyway. All adds to the amusement of a certain rat.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    cafcfan1990 said:

    Scoham said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
    Scoham said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
    I believe if say a player is released today, we could sign them anytime before 31st August. Previously we would have been able to sign them until 30th November and they would have been able to play straight away. Now if we sign them between 1st September-30th November, they cannot play until January.
    Wrong. If a player is released and therefore a free agent before 31 August, then he can be signed and play anytime. Just for the sake of clarity, yet again, here it is from the horse's mouth. https://efl.com/news/2018/february/earlier-closure-of-transfer-window-agreed-by-efl-clubs/

    In addition, EFL clubs will still be able to:

    Sign players on Standard Loan up to the 31st August 2018
    Sign players on Standard Loan up to 31st August 2018 with an option to agree a permanent transfer when the next window opens
    Register players who ceased to be registered with a club during the period up until 31st August 2018
    Transfer players OUT to a club in any League whose window is still open



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  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,357
    zzzz
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    Redhenry said:

    zzzz

    Who's he redhenry he any good what position he play
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    How tall is he?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    FAVADDICK said:

    Redhenry said:

    zzzz

    Who's he redhenry he any good what position he play
    Don't know too much about him other than he's been allocated squad number 26. :wink:
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    FAVADDICK said:

    Redhenry said:

    zzzz

    Who's he redhenry he any good what position he play
    I reckon he'd do a good job hoovering up loose balls in front of the back four.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    cafcfan said:

    cafcfan1990 said:

    Scoham said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
    Scoham said:

    Covered_End_Lad said:

    The player in question has to have been released from his former club before the closing of the window.

    So the rules around free transfers haven’t changed?
    I believe if say a player is released today, we could sign them anytime before 31st August. Previously we would have been able to sign them until 30th November and they would have been able to play straight away. Now if we sign them between 1st September-30th November, they cannot play until January.
    Wrong. If a player is released and therefore a free agent before 31 August, then he can be signed and play anytime. Just for the sake of clarity, yet again, here it is from the horse's mouth. https://efl.com/news/2018/february/earlier-closure-of-transfer-window-agreed-by-efl-clubs/

    In addition, EFL clubs will still be able to:

    Sign players on Standard Loan up to the 31st August 2018
    Sign players on Standard Loan up to 31st August 2018 with an option to agree a permanent transfer when the next window opens
    Register players who ceased to be registered with a club during the period up until 31st August 2018
    Transfer players OUT to a club in any League whose window is still open



    ???
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    more agonising than the takeover thread
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    That's because there are no transfers. Such a depressing time and to be honest just given up now.
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,198
    nothing mentioned on the triallists which i find strange. i would have thought LB would be keen to wrap them up so they could play a part this weekend if he wanted them.
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Sign Ward and Dawkins plus a goal keeper.

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