The rise of the vegans.
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There are those who question things, and act. And there are those who have closed minds, and ignore.
Dismissed or ridiculed by the latter, some of us took it upon ourselves to beat a drum for an animal-free diet and refused to be intimidated. Over months, years, our numbers grew and grew. Veganism is now mainstream.
There remains much to do. Some will rise to the task and others will snipe and remain in ignorance.
I'm confident that the UK's meat and dairy industry is in irreversible decline.9 -
It’s not that binary.
There’s also those who don’t care that much.......that’s where I fit in.2 -
Actually that's pretty wide of the mark.Big_Bad_World said:
It's not vegetarian fish and chips. It's simply a vegetarian meal with absolutely no correlation to fish and chips. The only reason the handle 'fish & chips' is used is to make the un-appetising meal sound edible.Broadstairs_Red said:Here in Broadstairs we now have a new Vegan Restaurant that does vegetarian fish and chips - no idea whats subs for fish ...
Even vegetarians need the suggestion of meat or fish (whether it be vegetarian sausages, facon or other such meat based references) to sell a proportion of the foods aimed at that target market.
What sounds more appealing, vegetable cylinders or vegetarian sausages?
I've had vegan fish and chips that taste identical to fish you would get from the fish and chip shop, only difference is the texture is less of a bite and more soft. From two different places as well, one was from a vegan pub in town and the other in a Greene King. I am very critical when it comes to comparing a vegan replacement because I practically lived off meat before, but if I was to ever go back to non vegan for some bizarre reason fish wouldn't be on the agenda when I can get it vegan.
The suggestion of a meat title is also in most cases, to make a regular eater feel open to the idea of eating it and getting an idea of what it is in a way. And of course it helps a transitioning vegan.
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Animal Aid's Christmas Fayre
SUNDAY 9th DEC 2018
Kensington Town Hall, Hornton Street, W8 7NX
10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
Programme: animalaid.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Fayreprogramme2018.pdf
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Grey squirrels - Non native, invasive species, all but wiped out the native reds in the UK. Shot loads of em to help with red re-introduction, but they never died in vain, they got eaten = CONSERVATIONAnna_Kissed said:Animal Aid's Christmas Fayre
SUNDAY 9th DEC 2018
Kensington Town Hall, Hornton Street, W8 7NX
10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
Programme: animalaid.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Fayreprogramme2018.pdf1 -
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Is it a Peugeot? I need a new one.seth plum said:
Freshly ground black pepper is so great. In the middle ages it was dearer than gold.AFKABartram said:Poached eggs, avocado and spinach bagel from brunch, with lashings of black pepper and BBQ sauce.
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I also own a pepper grinder that doesn't break does a brilliant job and is guaranteed for life.0 -
No mate. Cole Mason I think.seth plum said:
Yes. has your old Peugeot broken?SuedeAdidas said:
Is it a Peugeot? I need a new one.seth plum said:
Freshly ground black pepper is so great. In the middle ages it was dearer than gold.AFKABartram said:Poached eggs, avocado and spinach bagel from brunch, with lashings of black pepper and BBQ sauce.
Wallop
I also own a pepper grinder that doesn't break does a brilliant job and is guaranteed for life.0 -
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Sorry about the link to the sale.1 -
Don’t askBroadstairs_Red said:Here in Broadstairs we now have a new Vegan Restaurant that does vegetarian fish and chips - no idea whats subs for fish ...
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Please don’t take this as a pop because it isn’t, but I don’t really understand why vegan “fish and chips” is called fish and chips ? Doesn’t really help the vegan cause or entice a “real” fish and chip eater to partake. Not this one anyway. I find the same over “veggie mince”. It’s not mince because 99% of people would equate that name to mince beef, lamb etc. Why not just call it what it actually is.Braziliance said:
Actually that's pretty wide of the mark.Big_Bad_World said:
It's not vegetarian fish and chips. It's simply a vegetarian meal with absolutely no correlation to fish and chips. The only reason the handle 'fish & chips' is used is to make the un-appetising meal sound edible.Broadstairs_Red said:Here in Broadstairs we now have a new Vegan Restaurant that does vegetarian fish and chips - no idea whats subs for fish ...
Even vegetarians need the suggestion of meat or fish (whether it be vegetarian sausages, facon or other such meat based references) to sell a proportion of the foods aimed at that target market.
What sounds more appealing, vegetable cylinders or vegetarian sausages?
I've had vegan fish and chips that taste identical to fish you would get from the fish and chip shop, only difference is the texture is less of a bite and more soft. From two different places as well, one was from a vegan pub in town and the other in a Greene King. I am very critical when it comes to comparing a vegan replacement because I practically lived off meat before, but if I was to ever go back to non vegan for some bizarre reason fish wouldn't be on the agenda when I can get it vegan.
The suggestion of a meat title is also in most cases, to make a regular eater feel open to the idea of eating it and getting an idea of what it is in a way. And of course it helps a transitioning vegan.
Serious question. What is the fish substitute?
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Have you tried the squirrel substitute?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Grey squirrels - Non native, invasive species, all but wiped out the native reds in the UK. Shot loads of em to help with red re-introduction, but they never died in vain, they got eaten = CONSERVATIONAnna_Kissed said:Animal Aid's Christmas Fayre
SUNDAY 9th DEC 2018
Kensington Town Hall, Hornton Street, W8 7NX
10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
Programme: animalaid.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Fayreprogramme2018.pdf
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Yeah, it's called rabbit and vice versaShootersHillGuru said:
Have you tried the squirrel substitute?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Grey squirrels - Non native, invasive species, all but wiped out the native reds in the UK. Shot loads of em to help with red re-introduction, but they never died in vain, they got eaten = CONSERVATIONAnna_Kissed said:Animal Aid's Christmas Fayre
SUNDAY 9th DEC 2018
Kensington Town Hall, Hornton Street, W8 7NX
10:00 AM - 4:30 PM
Programme: animalaid.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Fayreprogramme2018.pdf0 -
fish substitute? its squirrel but shhhhhhhhh dont tell the vegans1
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I got the arsehole with a mate's husband over the weekend. We might not be friends any more after I called him a "stupid, selfish, ignorant, thick ". TBH, that's not a massive loss - she's been a mate for 30 odd years, so our friendship will survive (it survived me rattling her when I was a pissed 20 year old so this Johnny come lately hasn't a chance really, at four years of marriage)
He said he was thinking of feeding their cats a vegan diet. I only resorted to profanity and threats of violence after trying the usual common sense approach of telling him patiently that cats are obligate carnivores, that their diet absolutely requires meat (and not supplements), and that feeding them a vegan diet would make them ill and slowly kill them.
Now thinking of staging a bizarre 'animal rights' style rescue of their cats on humane grounds. Anyone want 2 neutered male tabby cats, somewhere between 3 and 5 years old?0 -
I see the RSPCA are threatening legal action on the grounds of animal cruelty for anyone feeding their pet cats vegan food and not meat basedLeroy Ambrose said:I got the arsehole with a mate's husband over the weekend. We might not be friends any more after I called him a "stupid, selfish, ignorant, thick ". TBH, that's not a massive loss - she's been a mate for 30 odd years, so our friendship will survive (it survived me rattling her when I was a pissed 20 year old so this Johnny come lately hasn't a chance really, at four years of marriage)
He said he was thinking of feeding their cats a vegan diet. I only resorted to profanity and threats of violence after trying the usual common sense approach of telling him patiently that cats are obligate carnivores, that their diet absolutely requires meat (and not supplements), and that feeding them a vegan diet would make them ill and slowly kill them.
Now thinking of staging a bizarre 'animal rights' style rescue of their cats on humane grounds. Anyone want 2 neutered male tabby cats, somewhere between 3 and 5 years old?2 -
Really? That's interesting - have you got a link?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I see the RSPCA are threatening legal action on the grounds of animal cruelty for anyone feeding their pet cats vegan food and not meat basedLeroy Ambrose said:I got the arsehole with a mate's husband over the weekend. We might not be friends any more after I called him a "stupid, selfish, ignorant, thick cunt". TBH, that's not a massive loss - she's been a mate for 30 odd years, so our friendship will survive (it survived me rattling her when I was a pissed 20 year old so this Johnny come lately hasn't a chance really, at four years of marriage)
He said he was thinking of feeding their cats a vegan diet. I only resorted to profanity and threats of violence after trying the usual common sense approach of telling him patiently that cats are obligate carnivores, that their diet absolutely requires meat (and not supplements), and that feeding them a vegan diet would make them ill and slowly kill them.
Now thinking of staging a bizarre 'animal rights' style rescue of their cats on humane grounds. Anyone want 2 neutered male tabby cats, somewhere between 3 and 5 years old?0 -
Preferably one not from the Fail so I don't feel filthy reading it...1
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So veganism causes (some) vegans to harm animals.
Well I never.2 -
You called someone a "stupid, selfish, ignorant, thick".......I wouldn't get too prissy about your choice of supporting documentationLeroy Ambrose said:Preferably one not from the Fail so I don't feel filthy reading it...
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/23/pet-owners-feed-cats-vegan-diet-could-face-prosecution/Leroy Ambrose said:Preferably one not from the Fail so I don't feel filthy reading it...
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I'm just of the opinion that there are far more important things to be worried about than a chicken/pig/cow etc. being killed, if i got bogged down in things like that i'm not sure i could enjoy my life tbh....1
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There is no such thing as Vegan Fish.
FACT
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Not sure how the RSPCA would prosecute based on a vegan diet for cats, other than by someone grassing up (no pun intended) a neighbour or mate...
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The RSPCA don't know what they're talking about when it comes to animal welfare tbh, but I think this one they've got bang onLeroy Ambrose said:Not sure how the RSPCA would prosecute based on a vegan diet for cats, other than by someone grassing up (no pun intended) a neighbour or mate...
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Just had whole roasted cauliflower according to the recipe in the Sinole Ottolenghi book. Yum.2
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RSPCA would confiscate the cat from the owners and then euthenise it.Leroy Ambrose said:Not sure how the RSPCA would prosecute based on a vegan diet for cats, other than by someone grassing up (no pun intended) a neighbour or mate...
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Put it out it's miseryiaitch said:
RSPCA would confiscate the cat from the owners and then euthenise it.Leroy Ambrose said:Not sure how the RSPCA would prosecute based on a vegan diet for cats, other than by someone grassing up (no pun intended) a neighbour or mate...
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Love a roasted cauliflower! I often makes these https://www.noracooks.com/vegan-cauliflower-buffalo-wings/ deliciousAlwaysneil said:Just had whole roasted cauliflower according to the recipe in the Sinole Ottolenghi book. Yum.
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Nope. That's what PETA would do...iaitch said:
RSPCA would confiscate the cat from the owners and then euthenise it.Leroy Ambrose said:Not sure how the RSPCA would prosecute based on a vegan diet for cats, other than by someone grassing up (no pun intended) a neighbour or mate...
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