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Missed It said:
Arya is not a true Deux ex Machina. Melisandre reminds her what to do and we know that's her plan. Nevermind that the original "green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes" prophecy is so vague it would make Nostradamus blush, but I digress.JiMMy 85 said:The implication that Arya was a ‘deus ex machina’ thing really bothers me. The callback to the “green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes” line is confirmation that she was set up to kill NK for a long time. And it was foreshadowed in the show. She’s been training for it for 7 seasons. What more do people want?
My gut reaction to her jumping out of nowhere was "FFS", you expect it in cheap slasher movie - not this, the culmination of nearly 10 years of epic TV and the final (er, half way through the series) apocalyptic battle to end all battles.
She escaped from the room they were trapped in (to where? not shown) She makes her way to the Godswood through hordes of rampaging zombies (not shown) Gets herself in position to strike (not shown) Avoids the white walker bodyguard (not shown) Kills the Night King with a single (unoriginal) move. Did she really use any of her hard won assassin skills? Did she use her stealth or change her face to sneak up? Maybe she did, we never saw it anyway.
If this was the denouement of the conflict with the Night King, why does it feel so blank? I say he was 'Snoked' because, like Snoke, he's effectively killed in the second act and we never really learn the who, where, what and why of this character. Why is he obsessed with Bran? Why should I have to go to the internet to find out? The climax of the conflict should give a resolution to the character and their motivations, or at least give me enough to figure it out from the character's actions based on what is previously known. As it is, the NK is just evil because he's evil and now he's dead - happy ending. Am I going to have to wait for an exposition dump next episode to explain it all or to truly understand the Night King, will I have to wait 15 years for George to finish the books?
As for Arya getting the kill shot over Jon Snow, that's another issue but I feel for the majority of the series Arya is cued up for killing Cersie, revenge is her motivation. It's why she goes all the way to Bravos to train. When did the Night King ever appear on her list? Jon Snow likewise has been pointed at a final showdown with the Night King, hinted at in Hardhome. He's already died for this cause once. But we don't get any of that. Jon just gets surrounded by zombies then spends the rest of the episode running around Winterfell before getting hopelessly pinned down by a dragon. Both characters have had their arcs diverted from what has been set up previously. All for the sake of 'subverting my expectations'
wow, its all fiction. These things happen, also she has been training to move/ unseen, so it would make sense at all.
it feels like your name on here really you might have 'missed it' the whole series or maybe you have overthought things through? of course you are entitled to your own opinion4 -
The Dothraki bit was weird, nobody seems to order the charge, I think they just got overexcited and went for it, even Jorah looks confused.
The Dragon thing I can understand, they lost one far too easily last time. Riding at the AOTD was increasing the risk of being hit with an ice spear and thus being turned.
The ditches thing was stupid, why they couldn't dig more and fight behind them I don't know. I'll blame that one on bad writing.
Still I think the Arya scene will be regarded as one of TV's most iconic moments, whether people like it or not.
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You didn't have to go to the internet to find out - Sam explained the reason very clearly in the previous episode.Missed It said:
Arya is not a true Deux ex Machina. Melisandre reminds her what to do and we know that's her plan. Nevermind that the original "green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes" prophecy is so vague it would make Nostradamus blush, but I digress.JiMMy 85 said:The implication that Arya was a ‘deus ex machina’ thing really bothers me. The callback to the “green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes” line is confirmation that she was set up to kill NK for a long time. And it was foreshadowed in the show. She’s been training for it for 7 seasons. What more do people want?
My gut reaction to her jumping out of nowhere was "FFS", you expect it in cheap slasher movie - not this, the culmination of nearly 10 years of epic TV and the final (er, half way through the series) apocalyptic battle to end all battles.
She escaped from the room they were trapped in (to where? not shown) She makes her way to the Godswood through hordes of rampaging zombies (not shown) Gets herself in position to strike (not shown) Avoids the white walker bodyguard (not shown) Kills the Night King with a single (unoriginal) move. Did she really use any of her hard won assassin skills? Did she use her stealth or change her face to sneak up? Maybe she did, we never saw it anyway.
If this was the denouement of the conflict with the Night King, why does it feel so blank? I say he was 'Snoked' because, like Snoke, he's effectively killed in the second act and we never really learn the who, where, what and why of this character. Why is he obsessed with Bran? Why should I have to go to the internet to find out? The climax of the conflict should give a resolution to the character and their motivations, or at least give me enough to figure it out from the character's actions based on what is previously known. As it is, the NK is just evil because he's evil and now he's dead - happy ending. Am I going to have to wait for an exposition dump next episode to explain it all or to truly understand the Night King, will I have to wait 15 years for George to finish the books?
As for Arya getting the kill shot over Jon Snow, that's another issue but I feel for the majority of the series Arya is cued up for killing Cersie, revenge is her motivation. It's why she goes all the way to Bravos to train. When did the Night King ever appear on her list? Jon Snow likewise has been pointed at a final showdown with the Night King, hinted at in Hardhome. He's already died for this cause once. But we don't get any of that. Jon just gets surrounded by zombies then spends the rest of the episode running around Winterfell before getting hopelessly pinned down by a dragon. Both characters have had their arcs diverted from what has been set up previously. All for the sake of 'subverting my expectations'5 -
If that's the case then I missed it! I'll get back in my box now anyway. I was disappointed but it's just a tv show after all. Hopefully the rest of it will be good. I would like go see Cersei get her comeuppance in a fitting way.EpsomAddick said:
You didn't have to go to the internet to find out - Sam explained the reason very clearly in the previous episode.Missed It said:
Arya is not a true Deux ex Machina. Melisandre reminds her what to do and we know that's her plan. Nevermind that the original "green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes" prophecy is so vague it would make Nostradamus blush, but I digress.JiMMy 85 said:The implication that Arya was a ‘deus ex machina’ thing really bothers me. The callback to the “green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes” line is confirmation that she was set up to kill NK for a long time. And it was foreshadowed in the show. She’s been training for it for 7 seasons. What more do people want?
My gut reaction to her jumping out of nowhere was "FFS", you expect it in cheap slasher movie - not this, the culmination of nearly 10 years of epic TV and the final (er, half way through the series) apocalyptic battle to end all battles.
She escaped from the room they were trapped in (to where? not shown) She makes her way to the Godswood through hordes of rampaging zombies (not shown) Gets herself in position to strike (not shown) Avoids the white walker bodyguard (not shown) Kills the Night King with a single (unoriginal) move. Did she really use any of her hard won assassin skills? Did she use her stealth or change her face to sneak up? Maybe she did, we never saw it anyway.
If this was the denouement of the conflict with the Night King, why does it feel so blank? I say he was 'Snoked' because, like Snoke, he's effectively killed in the second act and we never really learn the who, where, what and why of this character. Why is he obsessed with Bran? Why should I have to go to the internet to find out? The climax of the conflict should give a resolution to the character and their motivations, or at least give me enough to figure it out from the character's actions based on what is previously known. As it is, the NK is just evil because he's evil and now he's dead - happy ending. Am I going to have to wait for an exposition dump next episode to explain it all or to truly understand the Night King, will I have to wait 15 years for George to finish the books?
As for Arya getting the kill shot over Jon Snow, that's another issue but I feel for the majority of the series Arya is cued up for killing Cersie, revenge is her motivation. It's why she goes all the way to Bravos to train. When did the Night King ever appear on her list? Jon Snow likewise has been pointed at a final showdown with the Night King, hinted at in Hardhome. He's already died for this cause once. But we don't get any of that. Jon just gets surrounded by zombies then spends the rest of the episode running around Winterfell before getting hopelessly pinned down by a dragon. Both characters have had their arcs diverted from what has been set up previously. All for the sake of 'subverting my expectations'4 -
Ah yeah cheers hadn't thought of that angle. Lose another Dragon or both to the walkers and it would defo be curtainsLaddick01 said:The Dothraki bit was weird, nobody seems to order the charge, I think they just got overexcited and went for it, even Jorah looks confused.
The Dragon thing I can understand, they lost one far too easily last time. Riding at the AOTD was increasing the risk of being hit with an ice spear and thus being turned.
The ditches thing was stupid, why they couldn't dig more and fight behind them I don't know. I'll blame that one on bad writing.
Still I think the Arya scene will be regarded as one of TV's most iconic moments, whether people like it or not.0 -
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no I am disappointed cause it was genuinely an underwhelming episode imo. I couldn't care about predictions, I guessed 3 out of the 5 or so who died last episode to die, I said Arya would kill the night king, I didn't run around celebrating when it all happened.johnnybev1987 said:Braziliance said:
Why are you taking criticism of a show so personally? Not everyone is going to find every episode their cup of tea, this is a thread to reflect or review on the showjohnnybev1987 said:Braziliance said:
So the Night King was relaxed supposedly yet he still managed to catch Arya, are you suggesting if Theon didn't hopelessly charge he would have instead been like 'oi oi Arya, seen the knife pal'Dazzler21 said:
Theon needed to die to both distract the NK and to give him a false sense that there were no other threats.Braziliance said:My bold predictions.
Bran is true evil, The Night King was trying to protect the realm from the true evil. I base this on nothing other than that he is a creepy fucker and he didn't warn Theon that he didn't need to die.
Second bold prediction, Jaime or Tyrion will betray Dany and join back with Cersei.
I also backed Varys at 33/1 to be the last voice you hear in GoT, thought it looked good value
Arya didn't come out of nowhere, we see her storm away from Melisandre and the Hound, we see her being an expert at stealth in the library and yet a White Walker does glimpse her when the NK is fully focused on Bran, he uses their hive like mind to see her coming, but he underestimates her like many she killed.
On reflection I think it was actually pretty spot on. I also felt John being trapped by Viserion was fantastic it proved he can't do everything. It made him Human again, just like at BOTB.
My post was a joke, Bran is probably just some boring character when it's all said and done but let's not protect bad or OTT writing, it is on par with creating wild theories.
I like what you said about Viserion it's a good point, but again what could have been better was he survived the blast, runs through tricking the audience into thinking he was going to save Bran and then Arya jumps out
Maybe you should write your own series, as you can do better right?
Edit: after last night's episode, while we are on the subject maybe
Its never personal, I am I just saying from what you have written. You feel this would be better, I am sure there a countless different perspectives and things they could have done but they haven't. It leads on to my earlier point, people are disappointed more because it hasn't gone the way they expected and want.@goonerhater that's fair, personally mine goes last episode>Battle of Bastards>Red Wedding, all fantastic in their own right.
I agree I am not sure whether its going to be a bit of an anti-climax at the end, you would think the best would be the last? but we will see what happens. I am enjoying it, just a shame there is only 3 episodes left.
the show was much more than a glorified zombie series and that's what that episode was, battle of helmsdeep meets the walking dead.
By personal I mean the need to quote people and question why they don't enjoy it, bit bizarre that people are criticised for critiquing an episode1 -
what scene outline? one or two of my comments have been tongue in cheek i.e. Bran being the big bad, although that would have been better than basically a zombie leader with no actual back story since season 1 being the biggest threat.JiMMy 85 said:
Technically I am trained on TV/ film criticism so it’s a little bit different! I try to avoid the Mark Bright approach to criticism, saying “they should’ve done it like this” cos that's not criticism. That’s just fan fiction, especially as your scene outline was nowhere near as good.Braziliance said:
No but what does that have to do with discussion of a TV series?JiMMy 85 said:Do you write many scripts, Braziliance?
I have noticed you have posted on the Star Wars thread recently, I guess you have read all the books and are a personal friend of George Lucas to share your opinion?
Also you have posted in a thread about shirt sponsorship, I trust you have a degree in marketing and a career to form an opinion on the shirt sponsorship?
Explaining why you didn’t like something is one thing. Telling professionals how they SHOULD have done something is completely different, and I’d hope you wouldn’t find me doing that in any of the threads you’ve cited.
who is telling professionals? are there professionals on here? it's a thread about GoT, I said the episode was crap watching back a second time, explained why. If people don't like my opinion that's fine, quoting people and asking if they could do better is frankly childish, that question if it was valid would nullify 90% maybe more of the comments posted on this site so what is the point in saying it other than to get a few lols or cause an argument?0 -
I think the main problem here is that you have decided what the saga is all about a bit early. Martin himself has said that one of the things that inspired him when writing the books is him reading Lord of the Rings and wondering what happens now they've defeated the great evil; who cleans it up, what new struggles emerge, how do they rebuild? That's what's happened here. They've ignored the problem until it arrived on their doorstep, and now that normal service is restored (dickheads arguing over a chair) we get to see what happens to those who sacrifice so much to help the world. Do they win? Are they punished for doing the right thing by people more ruthless than them? Since the opening of the saga we've been shown that being an honourable man like Ned Stark can get you killed, and that the cruel prosper. The fact that Cersei refused to help because she was too petty to see the real issue is still a theme that continues, we just have to wait and see whether she now capitalises on the good side's armies being destroyed and wins.Missed It said:
Game of Thrones was just the title of the first book. The whole saga is called Song of Ice an Fire. The battle with the Night King is ultimately what it's all about. The struggle to rule the 7 kingdoms, entertaining though it was, is shown to be nothing more than petty squabbling. They've spent the last few series driving that point home. Everybody is blindly arguing over castles while they ignore the real threat. An immortal supernatural evil being with an unstoppable horde of undead and a dragon intent on destroying the world. Cersei is about as threatening as a bitter ex-wife compared to that.ValleyGary said:
The NK/Army of the dead story line was the weakest part of GOT for me, now we are back to the political back stabbing and double crossing which made it such an epic series in the first place. Massively looking forward to the last 3 episodes.Missed It said:Oh dear... They 'Snoked'' the Night King with appear out of nowhere Arya and now we've got three more episodes of ''what's the point?"
I hope you enjoy the last 3 episodes, I sincerely do. I'm not here to bring everybody down and tell them they're wrong for loving last night's episode. Just registering my disappointment. The show's been getting steadily worse since series 5 and last night just put the knife in it for me.
The fact is, there's so much more scope for development in these last three episodes now the the White Walker threat is gone. The army of the undead are pretty dull really; they have one purpose, they don't talk, they don't betray anyone, they don't have any sympathetic characters, they don't develop, they aren't even particularly evil. Did anyone hate the Night King like they hate Cersei or Euron or Ramsey? Course not, he's just a blue Darth Maul who wanders around a bit stabbing people, with the sole purpose of that and nothing else. Now we can watch the stuff that's actually interesting in the show, which is enjoying the different characters with their complex personalities maneuver round the board until the end. I'm pretty sure most people fell in love with the first series because of the amazing political intrigue and the characters rather than that bit right out the start where some no-name characters get eaten.3 - Sponsored links:
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Lol it was superb .
People moaning about war tactics , main characters surviving etc is hilarious!
Everyone should of died really if you want to pick holes.
The night king was created just to kill men thats it!
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Braziliance said:
no I am disappointed cause it was genuinely an underwhelming episode imo. I couldn't care about predictions, I guessed 3 out of the 5 or so who died last episode to die, I said Arya would kill the night king, I didn't run around celebrating when it all happened.johnnybev1987 said:Braziliance said:
Why are you taking criticism of a show so personally? Not everyone is going to find every episode their cup of tea, this is a thread to reflect or review on the showjohnnybev1987 said:Braziliance said:
So the Night King was relaxed supposedly yet he still managed to catch Arya, are you suggesting if Theon didn't hopelessly charge he would have instead been like 'oi oi Arya, seen the knife pal'Dazzler21 said:
Theon needed to die to both distract the NK and to give him a false sense that there were no other threats.Braziliance said:My bold predictions.
Bran is true evil, The Night King was trying to protect the realm from the true evil. I base this on nothing other than that he is a creepy fucker and he didn't warn Theon that he didn't need to die.
Second bold prediction, Jaime or Tyrion will betray Dany and join back with Cersei.
I also backed Varys at 33/1 to be the last voice you hear in GoT, thought it looked good value
Arya didn't come out of nowhere, we see her storm away from Melisandre and the Hound, we see her being an expert at stealth in the library and yet a White Walker does glimpse her when the NK is fully focused on Bran, he uses their hive like mind to see her coming, but he underestimates her like many she killed.
On reflection I think it was actually pretty spot on. I also felt John being trapped by Viserion was fantastic it proved he can't do everything. It made him Human again, just like at BOTB.
My post was a joke, Bran is probably just some boring character when it's all said and done but let's not protect bad or OTT writing, it is on par with creating wild theories.
I like what you said about Viserion it's a good point, but again what could have been better was he survived the blast, runs through tricking the audience into thinking he was going to save Bran and then Arya jumps out
Maybe you should write your own series, as you can do better right?
Edit: after last night's episode, while we are on the subject maybe
Its never personal, I am I just saying from what you have written. You feel this would be better, I am sure there a countless different perspectives and things they could have done but they haven't. It leads on to my earlier point, people are disappointed more because it hasn't gone the way they expected and want.@goonerhater that's fair, personally mine goes last episode>Battle of Bastards>Red Wedding, all fantastic in their own right.
I agree I am not sure whether its going to be a bit of an anti-climax at the end, you would think the best would be the last? but we will see what happens. I am enjoying it, just a shame there is only 3 episodes left.
the show was much more than a glorified zombie series and that's what that episode was, battle of helmsdeep meets the walking dead.
By personal I mean the need to quote people and question why they don't enjoy it, bit bizarre that people are criticised for critiquing an episode
Its an open forum, we can quote/ question likewise you can. Its all about opinions and not meaning to lynch you but it was just the way you put it. It did come across that you were a bit disappointed as you expected more, to me as always I don't expect anything/ predict anything as I feel it can hinder your judgement.Hopefully the last few episodes might sway you, I agree it did tail away a bit in periods of other seasons(cant think which ones without watching it back) but ultimately its been a great show, very unpredictable in most parts and imo will be hard to beat. But again that's just my opinion and I hope the last few episodes don't just die out , which I am sure they wont.
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That was terrible. I like how GoT has been able to do the unexpected throughout its run and keep me guessing but they didn’t kill any of the main characters like I was expecting and I didn’t like that. Also, I was expecting Jon to kill the Night King but he didn’t and I’m not happy because the writers didn’t do what I was expecting with that either.
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Back to wild, baseless predictions for future GoT episodes.
Jamie kills Brienne to protect Cersei.1 -
This is very much it. The show builds a fanbase by shocking people and not doing what they expect. Fans confuse 'the show plays with our expectations' with 'everyone constantly dies' and froths when the people they expect to die don't dieExiled_Addick said:To summarize.
That was terrible. I like how GoT has been able to do the unexpected throughout its run and keep me guessing but they didn’t kill any of the main characters like I was expecting and I didn’t like that. Also, I was expecting Jon to kill the Night King but he didn’t and I’m not happy because the writers didn’t do what I was expecting with that either.2 -
The night kings obsession with bran was laid clear the episode before . His soul purpose is to lead the dead and kill everyone and erase the memory of the living and Bran is the memory of the living
everything else about the program is fantasy you can look at it too deeply.
way back when killing Ned Stark/Joffrey/Tywin etc was a shock think back was it really
with the exception of Ned all other lead deaths haven’t really been so
the main characters are John -Danni -Jamie-Tyrion-Sansa-Ayra(spelling) cersi gendry the mountain all are still alive
so the biggest characters don’t die and never have
yes Joffrey and Tywin little finger and Rob Stark lady Stark etc have been big players but they are the support
even Breaan greyworm davos Samuel and the baldy are all seconds
With bron pod sams bird further down the list
its a bloody amazing show wonderfully written superbly delivered and acted and is the best thing I have ever seen created for TV
It’s up there with the best films ever made
to me it’s a ten hr movie and I bloody love it and I certainly don’t worry it read too much into any of it
it would take away the enjoyment I am though passionate about it and enjoy it more than I should8 -
Heard there's going to be a spin off cereal focusing on one character called All Bran.
*rolls eyes*
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The Red Wedding was brutal and shocking, it was at that point I realised you just don't KNOW what will happen, you can have an idea and even be right in places but you don't KNOW.1
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Was at work shortly after that aired. Had a couple of series to watch to catch up and a colleague who sat near me was chatting about it to another colleague...I politely but abruptly said I'm catching up on these so no spoilers please.Dazzler21 said:The Red Wedding was brutal and shocking, it was at that point I realised you just don't KNOW what will happen, you can have an idea and even be right in places but you don't KNOW.
They carried on talking in that annoying whisper which in a quiet office when you are deliberately trying not to hear means that every word is amplified like they're blaring it out of a megaphone.
Realising they were too pig headed to perhaps adhere to my polite request and perhaps even do some fucking work after they finished their desk based breakfast at 10am having got in 45 minutes late and chatted non stop I decided to walk away and get a coffee on the premise they will have likely finished and be back talking about the sleeping habit of their cats or whatever other shit was used to while away the day rather than doing the job at hand.
Went and got a coffee and had a wander and came back later....she looked at me and went "OK no spoilers but just one question....have you got to the red wedding bit yet???!!!" her eyes widening in a "something clearly epic happens at the red wedding" kind of look.
I just huffed and walked off.
Couple of weeks later sat there with the missus watching the Red wedding episode with a massive scowl on my boat whilst my wife marvelled at the complete, surprise, shock and horror that unfolded in that episode....and that I was fully expecting due to gobby gobby loudmouth at work.
Absolutely lovely lady and i really got on with her but to this day my resentment for that single innocent act of thoughtlessness rages inside me like a ignited vat of wildfire.
Awful behaviour.
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This.thenewbie said:My biggest grievance with the Night King and the whole plotline around him is that he's not a character, he's a plot device. He's a walking, non-talking, reset button to stop the unstoppable army. No personality, no real motivation of his own (just that of his creators). No real personal connection with any other character except the one (Bran) even more boring than he is. So while it's a great moment for Arya as a character to be the one to kill him, it really doesn't feel as big a deal as it should to me.
Plus the sheer number of times we had characters who would have died in pretty much any other season in the same situation only to make it out alive (multiple times, in one episode) kind of ruined some of the drama to me as well. So many nameless extras die in the crypts but not a single Named character, even though they are down there because they can't actually fight?
Good cinematography, well shot, epic stuff from a visual perspective, but story wise it was kind of... eh.
And we didbt see Anyas boobs last week.1 - Sponsored links:
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My favourite bit was Bran's massive grin when Arya killed the Night King.0
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Up until last night’s episode, and only because I knew it was going to be the final battle with the night king, absolutely every single time they’ve cut to him and his army, I’ve had goose bumps and been pumped having caught a glimpse of the cold, blue eyes.
I knew last night wouldn’t bring that same sense of goose bumps, because it’s the climax to a wonderfully anticipated and chillingly built plot line, but my God, some of those previous battles and indeed when they take the wall, are things that I think will not be matched for years on TV
despite it being quite dark last night, I can’t really see what else the show could’ve done differently
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Dazzler21 said:I also felt John being trapped by Viserion was fantastic it proved he can't do everything. It made him Human again, just like at BOTBSome people theorize that now that the NK is dead, that the unification of "the living" is going to really splinter badly, leaving Cersei in the best position.1. Dany has lost almost all her two armies (Dothraki and Unsullied), plus at least one dragon. Not much to fear anymore.2. Jon and Dany did little in the battle at Winterfell anyone saw, so the survivors might not see them as being as crucial as they did before the battle.3. With the WW gone, Jamie might leave to rejoin Cersei.4. Sansa and Arya each seem wary of Jon caring more about unity than the family.5. Arya gets more done when the chips are down in the last episode, so maybe power is shifting in the family.6. When word gets out Jon's actual name is Rheagar Targaryen, I don't think the Stark family will take that well.7. Tyrion was down in the crypt during the big battle, was completely unnecessary in the battle (complaining about that very fact during the episode), the Starks don't trust him and Dany no longer takes his advice to heart.Cersei said she would let them fight the WW and then deal with weakened opposition once that was done. That is EXACTLY what has happened.2
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I found the last paragraph of this article very thought provoking. Were the earliest interpreters and purveyors of the expansive texts that form the basis of today’s world religions the first examples of geeks?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/may/01/the-new-nerds-how-avengers-and-game-of-thrones-made-everyone-geek-out
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watched it last night - it was good but that was it was just good wasn't unreal2
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Braziliance said:
what scene outline? one or two of my comments have been tongue in cheek i.e. Bran being the big bad, although that would have been better than basically a zombie leader with no actual back story since season 1 being the biggest threat.JiMMy 85 said:
Technically I am trained on TV/ film criticism so it’s a little bit different! I try to avoid the Mark Bright approach to criticism, saying “they should’ve done it like this” cos that's not criticism. That’s just fan fiction, especially as your scene outline was nowhere near as good.Braziliance said:
No but what does that have to do with discussion of a TV series?JiMMy 85 said:Do you write many scripts, Braziliance?
I have noticed you have posted on the Star Wars thread recently, I guess you have read all the books and are a personal friend of George Lucas to share your opinion?
Also you have posted in a thread about shirt sponsorship, I trust you have a degree in marketing and a career to form an opinion on the shirt sponsorship?
Explaining why you didn’t like something is one thing. Telling professionals how they SHOULD have done something is completely different, and I’d hope you wouldn’t find me doing that in any of the threads you’ve cited.
who is telling professionals? are there professionals on here? it's a thread about GoT, I said the episode was crap watching back a second time, explained why. If people don't like my opinion that's fine, quoting people and asking if they could do better is frankly childish, that question if it was valid would nullify 90% maybe more of the comments posted on this site so what is the point in saying it other than to get a few lols or cause an argument?
I think you kinda missed my point but that's probably my fault. I'm just saying that I don't think judging something against what you expected/ hoped is fair criticism, and what you had in your head is not necessarily a better outcome. "They should have done it the way I think" is inane, to me at least.
It's not about causing an argument, I'm challenging your criticism as I don't think it's particularly justified or fair. I think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do on a discussion forum.
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Dragons, magic and zombies? It was pretty unreal TBF!palarsehater said:watched it last night - it was good but that was it was just good wasn't unreal2 -
it was good i think, but wasn't amazing!, i thought the fighting scenes went on a bit too long if im honestse9addick said:
Dragons, magic and zombies? It was pretty unreal TBF!palarsehater said:watched it last night - it was good but that was it was just good wasn't unreal2 -
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To suggest that both Jon Snow and Dany did very little during the battle isn’t really very accurate is it ? Both rode the dragons that burnt thousands of the undead. Jon saved Dany and Dany saved Jon. Both fought an Ariel battle with the Night King and various hand to hand combats.
I think its unlikely that these these two major major characters have now run their course. Dany is still Queen and Jon fundamental to any battle that might ensue with Cersei.
The next three episodes need to resole the Cersei, Jamie, Tyrion triangle along with Jon and Dany. Sansa and Arya plus Bran seem superfluous to the plot going forward but that too seems unlikely to me.3 -
Yeah definitely interested to see how Bran is employed in the story from here.ShootersHillGuru said:
I'm surprised at how excited I am to see what happens next. I would have thought I'd be less excited after the death of TNK, but as others have said, we're returning to the back-stabbing and skullduggery of the pre-TNK times. I think it's going to be a bit less predictable from here.0
