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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I think any talk of the contract status of Aribo, Bowyer or anyone else, causing any delay in any deal is a red herring. 

    It might be the case if Aribo was potentially worth more than the asking price of the club, he isn't, so it's not. 

    Apart from Riga, who had 2 until the end of the season deals, who was the last Charlton manager to leave at the end of their deal because they couldn't agree a new one? Mike Bailey, I think.  In all that time only Robinson and Lennie have left for other jobs?  I maybe wrong.  I would suggest that a long term contract for any manager is more of a liability than an asset, regardless of your opinion of Lee.

    Remember that the aussies have been around since before Bowyer was manager and Aribo was a "star".   If I had long term ambition to invest 100s of million pounds, of my own money, in a football club I didn't support, I wouldn't hang it all on someone with 18 months experience who I may have never heard of.   That's not to say I wouldn't give them a crack at it, just it wouldn't be central to my plans. 
    So are you saying the contract status of a player would only affect the sale of a club if they are worth more then the club? That’s rubbish. 

    I am not saying it’s a sole reason but if your buying a club with assets it’s worth less without one of those assets. Granted an out of contract Aribo is worthless but for new owners that is another player to replace and arguably our best player, and so harder to replace. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Chunes said:
    Can anyone think of a takeover that was rumoured to be ongoing for weeks, and then went through?

    I can't remember any off hand. Seems like every time a club is bought, it's announced in the press and it's already over. 
    Yes, but that might be because we're not paying attention to other takeovers like we are our own. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    I think any talk of the contract status of Aribo, Bowyer or anyone else, causing any delay in any deal is a red herring. 

    It might be the case if Aribo was potentially worth more than the asking price of the club, he isn't, so it's not. 

    Apart from Riga, who had 2 until the end of the season deals, who was the last Charlton manager to leave at the end of their deal because they couldn't agree a new one? Mike Bailey, I think.  In all that time only Robinson and Lennie have left for other jobs?  I maybe wrong.  I would suggest that a long term contract for any manager is more of a liability than an asset, regardless of your opinion of Lee.

    Remember that the aussies have been around since before Bowyer was manager and Aribo was a "star".   If I had long term ambition to invest 100s of million pounds, of my own money, in a football club I didn't support, I wouldn't hang it all on someone with 18 months experience who I may have never heard of.   That's not to say I wouldn't give them a crack at it, just it wouldn't be central to my plans. 
    So are you saying the contract status of a player would only affect the sale of a club if they are worth more then the club? That’s rubbish. 

    I am not saying it’s a sole reason but if your buying a club with assets it’s worth less without one of those assets. Granted an out of contract Aribo is worthless but for new owners that is another player to replace and arguably our best player, and so harder to replace. 
    I was talking about Aribo, or anyone else, as a sellable asset.  If any takeover is an, £100 million plus, investment the hyperthetical value of Aribo is neither here nor there.   If you were buying the club for £1 and Aribo was worth, say £5 million it would be a completely diffrent scenario. 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Makes me laugh the stuff about “a close friend who works for the club”. The people who work for the club know fuck all about takeovers, up to and including the football management. If they did it would be everywhere.

    Roland has a window to sell at peak value which closes at the start of August. He knows that, so do the potential buyers. Hence the noise.

    Behave yourself...there’s a swearing ban on this site. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Chizz said:
    Don't shoot the messenger, but I just saw an interesting rumour on Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, LinkedIn and the Daily Mail. 

    It said "multiple rumours by different people saying similar things on different outlets may ultimately all emanate from the same source where it’s been passed on". 

    Not claiming to be ITK, but that seems to be pretty nailed on. It's happening, isn't it? 
    "Just popping out to have a word with the postman, darling".


  • According to Warnock, Dalman no longer interested in purchasing Charlton!
    (This mornings Google UK news)
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,737
    According to Warnock, Dalman no longer interested in purchasing Charlton!
    (This mornings Google UK news)
    Old news
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    I was just about to post that NLA had made my day, and then along comes AFKA to blo*dy (can't be too careful while there's this swearing ban) spoil it.

    But on the other hand, maybe this one original source is actually right?


    Either way, NLA has more than one source. It's happening!!
  • To_Be_Franck
    To_Be_Franck Posts: 1,095
    It’s the Aussies 100%. Mark my words. 
    It’s Dalman 100% . Mark my words
    You could be 100% right or 100% wrong. 
    Or he could be the first person in history to be 200% wrong!  Only at charlton!
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  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    edited June 2019
    So NLA, is your Welsh source Reams?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    So NLA, is your Welsh source Reams?
    Don't tell him Pike!
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    I keep thinking @DaveMehmet is buying the club when i scroll down
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,997
    Aribo could be a slight hold up as silly as it sounds. At the end of the day he is the only real sellable asset on the playing side. He leaves and the clubs valuation is less than if he signs a new deal. 
    I can't see why that would hold the sale up.
    You could just have 2 prices, one with Aribo and one without Aribo.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,997
    IdleHans said:
    Is there any significance in the fact that Mehmet Dalman is an anagram of Helmet Madman?

    Are they actually the same person?
    Am I the only person that had to check this ?
    PS It's definitely a sign.
    A sign of us going mad.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Aribo could be a slight hold up as silly as it sounds. At the end of the day he is the only real sellable asset on the playing side. He leaves and the clubs valuation is less than if he signs a new deal. 
    I can't see why that would hold the sale up.
    You could just have 2 prices, one with Aribo and one without Aribo.
    I don't understand why any player that may potentially be worth some money in the future would stop someone who is looking to make the investment we need. 
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Agree with the above posts, absolute loads of messages and posts all over social media saying my mate knows this and that. Almost certainly coming from the same source, one very reliable source who I know and has got very close connections Chris Parks has messaged me this morning saying the deal was agreed in principal yesterday , but as mentioned this could be Chinese whispers as all of the above. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,997
    edited June 2019
    Perhaps good news, but let's not forget we have been told numerous times, going back as far as 2 years, that a deal was agreed in principal and even a price agreed.

    We were simply waiting for more paperwork to be lodged with the EFL.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    _nam11 said:
    1775, Jane Austen born.
    What happens when we go past page 2019?
    It will be full of made up sh*t. 

    Just like this thread. :smile:

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    My mate works at Charlton and he says the EFL are the ones buying the club
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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    1783, The last public execution at Tyburn.
    Someone had been hanging on for that.


  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Sue Cook’s pulled out 
  • andyg90
    andyg90 Posts: 505
    Chunes said:
    My mate works at Charlton and he says the EFL are the ones buying the club
    My mate works at the EFL and he says the FA are buying the club. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,265
    My mate Roland says he knows sweet FA about buying or selling a club
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,107
    clb74 said:
    I keep thinking @DaveMehmet is buying the club when i scroll down
    I wish he would. It would be free beer every game 
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Is it really gonna happen soon ?

    Bubbly back in the fridge again, fingers crossed !
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Cafc43v3r said:


    Apart from Riga, who had 2 until the end of the season deals, who was the last Charlton manager to leave at the end of their deal because they couldn't agree a new one?

    Mike Bailey, I think.  In all that time only Robinson and Lennie have left for other jobs?  I maybe wrong.  I would suggest that a long term contract for any manager is more of a liability than an asset, regardless of your opinion of Lee.

    I thought Mike Bailey left Charlton because he'd been offered the manager's job at top tier Brighton?


  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    As of this morning at least one ex-director with a loan outstanding has heard nothing further re any takeover.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,737
    edited June 2019
    This whole thread has turned into a contest to see who’s more in the know . It’s ridiculous

     ( and that’s not aimed at Rick because he’s the one person I do know , that knows people )
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    As of this morning at least one ex-director with a loan outstanding has heard nothing further re any takeover.
    Rollover then 

    or should they be informed if that was to happen 
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