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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Cafc43v3r said:I think any talk of the contract status of Aribo, Bowyer or anyone else, causing any delay in any deal is a red herring.
It might be the case if Aribo was potentially worth more than the asking price of the club, he isn't, so it's not.
Apart from Riga, who had 2 until the end of the season deals, who was the last Charlton manager to leave at the end of their deal because they couldn't agree a new one? Mike Bailey, I think. In all that time only Robinson and Lennie have left for other jobs? I maybe wrong. I would suggest that a long term contract for any manager is more of a liability than an asset, regardless of your opinion of Lee.
Remember that the aussies have been around since before Bowyer was manager and Aribo was a "star". If I had long term ambition to invest 100s of million pounds, of my own money, in a football club I didn't support, I wouldn't hang it all on someone with 18 months experience who I may have never heard of. That's not to say I wouldn't give them a crack at it, just it wouldn't be central to my plans.
I am not saying it’s a sole reason but if your buying a club with assets it’s worth less without one of those assets. Granted an out of contract Aribo is worthless but for new owners that is another player to replace and arguably our best player, and so harder to replace.
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Makes me laugh the stuff about “a close friend who works for the club”. The people who work for the club know fuck all about takeovers, up to and including the football management. If they did it would be everywhere.
Roland has a window to sell at peak value which closes at the start of August. He knows that, so do the potential buyers. Hence the noise.
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Chunes said:Can anyone think of a takeover that was rumoured to be ongoing for weeks, and then went through?
I can't remember any off hand. Seems like every time a club is bought, it's announced in the press and it's already over.4 -
cafcfan1990 said:Cafc43v3r said:I think any talk of the contract status of Aribo, Bowyer or anyone else, causing any delay in any deal is a red herring.
It might be the case if Aribo was potentially worth more than the asking price of the club, he isn't, so it's not.
Apart from Riga, who had 2 until the end of the season deals, who was the last Charlton manager to leave at the end of their deal because they couldn't agree a new one? Mike Bailey, I think. In all that time only Robinson and Lennie have left for other jobs? I maybe wrong. I would suggest that a long term contract for any manager is more of a liability than an asset, regardless of your opinion of Lee.
Remember that the aussies have been around since before Bowyer was manager and Aribo was a "star". If I had long term ambition to invest 100s of million pounds, of my own money, in a football club I didn't support, I wouldn't hang it all on someone with 18 months experience who I may have never heard of. That's not to say I wouldn't give them a crack at it, just it wouldn't be central to my plans.
I am not saying it’s a sole reason but if your buying a club with assets it’s worth less without one of those assets. Granted an out of contract Aribo is worthless but for new owners that is another player to replace and arguably our best player, and so harder to replace.0 -
Airman Brown said:Makes me laugh the stuff about “a close friend who works for the club”. The people who work for the club know fuck all about takeovers, up to and including the football management. If they did it would be everywhere.
Roland has a window to sell at peak value which closes at the start of August. He knows that, so do the potential buyers. Hence the noise.5 -
Chizz said:Don't shoot the messenger, but I just saw an interesting rumour on Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, LinkedIn and the Daily Mail.
It said "multiple rumours by different people saying similar things on different outlets may ultimately all emanate from the same source where it’s been passed on".
Not claiming to be ITK, but that seems to be pretty nailed on. It's happening, isn't it?
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According to Warnock, Dalman no longer interested in purchasing Charlton!
(This mornings Google UK news)0 -
Silverdreammachine said:According to Warnock, Dalman no longer interested in purchasing Charlton!
(This mornings Google UK news)1 -
I was just about to post that NLA had made my day, and then along comes AFKA to blo*dy (can't be too careful while there's this swearing ban) spoil it.
But on the other hand, maybe this one original source is actually right?
Either way, NLA has more than one source. It's happening!!0 -
superclive98 said:KiwiValley said:It’s the Aussies 100%. Mark my words.KiwiValley said:It’s Dalman 100% . Mark my words9
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So NLA, is your Welsh source Reams?3
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Athletico Charlton said:So NLA, is your Welsh source Reams?7
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I keep thinking @DaveMehmet is buying the club when i scroll down2
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cafcfan1990 said:Aribo could be a slight hold up as silly as it sounds. At the end of the day he is the only real sellable asset on the playing side. He leaves and the clubs valuation is less than if he signs a new deal.
You could just have 2 prices, one with Aribo and one without Aribo.0 -
IdleHans said:Is there any significance in the fact that Mehmet Dalman is an anagram of Helmet Madman?
Are they actually the same person?
PS It's definitely a sign.
A sign of us going mad.3 -
Covered End said:cafcfan1990 said:Aribo could be a slight hold up as silly as it sounds. At the end of the day he is the only real sellable asset on the playing side. He leaves and the clubs valuation is less than if he signs a new deal.
You could just have 2 prices, one with Aribo and one without Aribo.1 -
Agree with the above posts, absolute loads of messages and posts all over social media saying my mate knows this and that. Almost certainly coming from the same source, one very reliable source who I know and has got very close connections Chris Parks has messaged me this morning saying the deal was agreed in principal yesterday , but as mentioned this could be Chinese whispers as all of the above.7
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Perhaps good news, but let's not forget we have been told numerous times, going back as far as 2 years, that a deal was agreed in principal and even a price agreed.
We were simply waiting for more paperwork to be lodged with the EFL.1 -
_nam11 said:happyvalley said:1775, Jane Austen born.
Just like this thread.
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My mate works at Charlton and he says the EFL are the ones buying the club12
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Sue Cook’s pulled out6
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My mate Roland says he knows sweet FA about buying or selling a club8
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clb74 said:I keep thinking @DaveMehmet is buying the club when i scroll down0
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Is it really gonna happen soon ?
Bubbly back in the fridge again, fingers crossed !0 -
Cafc43v3r said:
Apart from Riga, who had 2 until the end of the season deals, who was the last Charlton manager to leave at the end of their deal because they couldn't agree a new one?
Mike Bailey, I think. In all that time only Robinson and Lennie have left for other jobs? I maybe wrong. I would suggest that a long term contract for any manager is more of a liability than an asset, regardless of your opinion of Lee.
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As of this morning at least one ex-director with a loan outstanding has heard nothing further re any takeover.5
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This whole thread has turned into a contest to see who’s more in the know . It’s ridiculous
( and that’s not aimed at Rick because he’s the one person I do know , that knows people )0 -
Airman Brown said:As of this morning at least one ex-director with a loan outstanding has heard nothing further re any takeover.
or should they be informed if that was to happen1
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