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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • 1820, The launch of Charles Darwin's HMS Beagle from Woolwich Dockyard.
    1830 coming. That’ll be an interesting year. 
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    Tragedy? Do me a favour.  Everyone says they want players who really want to play for the club not those after the money.  Well here you have a group who are so keen to own us they have put up with that prick RD for 2 years when loads of other clubs are available.  The least we could do, if they do buy us, is give them a chance.
    If you have the choice of Dalman or Aussies it is a tragedy if you don’t get Dalman 

    I don’t believe I have said that They won’t be given a chance 

    but we as a club are hemorrhaging money we have little assets and the only people that seemingly want to get it done haven’t been able to get their shit together in two yrs 

    they haven’t found a money tree and they are still actively seeking investment 

    too me thats a tragedy but if you think it’s all jolly hockey sticks then bravo  
    Said i would give them a chance, not that it is jolly hockey sticks.

    you say you will give them a chance but before they have even bought you are calling it a tragedy.

    From what i have read Dalman doesn't have enough of his own cash so will have investors behind him whom we don't yet know.

    RedJohn said:
    Heard Dalman has walked, Aussies favourites, 
    The sad thing is I have long since believed this will happen and that the Aussies are imo fav to get this done first real tragedy but it is what it is 

    I had hoped that Reams info was new and had some favour due to his links to Cardiff 

    Let’s hope this is not the case and Dalman is in but I get the feeling that the Aussies have been aided into position by the aide of some one in the club 
    Tragedy? Do me a favour.  Everyone says they want players who really want to play for the club not those after the money.  Well here you have a group who are so keen to own us they have put up with that prick RD for 2 years when loads of other clubs are available.  The least we could do, if they do buy us, is give them a chance.
    I'd love to own us and have great intentions to achieve success. I've been hanging around the club for 30 plus years. Doesn't mean I have the funds to keep us going even if I could find the dough to do the initial purchase.

    I think that's the concern rather than necessarily the intentions of the consortium.

    The Aussies sound like they're in bed with relatively unknown to them investors whom  they've likely sold a vision to or (god forbid) a return on (a return that is slim compared to far less accessible and convenient investments outside of the nutty world of football).

    The Aussies are an unknown quantity to us but my concern is that whilst they may be The Good Guys their investors are relatively unknown quantities even to them.

    Risks a Kevin Cash scenario if those added investors feel they were missold or misunderstood what they are buying into (and how unlikely a financial return is whilst having a diluted profile in the day to day running and ego trip of being seen to own a club and all its trappings) or just get bored and walk away in a manner that we wouldn't and couldn't.
    I don't disagree with much of what you say but as i say above, i don't think dalman is rich enough to go it alone so will have investors and we don't yet know who so not sure if there is much of a difference.

    Muir is a successful businessman, i give him the benefit of the doubt at least that he would not hang around something for 2 years, spending a load on Due Diligence and being part of a group spending £30m on the club only to rock up on the second day and realise they did not have funds to cover at least a year or two’s losses.

    if i had an uneducated guess i would rather Dalman given his UK football experience and positive Cardiff vibe but frankly I will take either over RD giving Bowyer no signings of the 5 he thought he would have done this week so far.


    If you were an investor, you would be more tempted / confident to invest with Dalman, who has had success with Cardiff. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Oggy Red said:
    1816, Sir Humprey Davy's safety lamp for miners is first tested at Hebburn colliery.
    Stop jumping the gun, we are still on page 1815.
    Never mind, Happy Valley.

    I guess some posts on this thread got deleted by mods, sending the thread back to the previous page.


    I was joking Oggy, and his very next post pushed it over a page which I lol'd
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    Sorry to go slightly off subject but a quick question.... why do we call the prick Rowland?. The very best he deserves is Douchatelet. I call my friends by their first name and enemies by their last name. There got it of my chest :smile:
    I believe you are the first to call him Rowland 
    Well spotted!. I find it easier to spell his surname 😉
  • Sorry to go slightly off subject but a quick question.... why do we call the prick Rowland?. The very best he deserves is Douchatelet. I call my friends by their first name and enemies by their last name. There got it of my chest :smile:
    I believe you are the first to call him Rowland 
    Well spotted!. I find it easier to spell his surname 😉
    Yep your right,that 4 letter word beginning wit C & ending in unt is easier to spell...👍
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Uboat said:
    Dalman hung around for ten minutes then fucked off and is a great guy. The Aussies have hung around for two years and are bad bad people. 
    Just checking I've got this right. 
    Dont let Mr Seed Junior hear you say that.
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    Sorry to go slightly off subject but a quick question.... why do we call the prick Rowland?. The very best he deserves is Douchatelet. I call my friends by their first name and enemies by their last name. There got it of my chest :smile:
    I believe you are the first to call him Rowland 
    Well spotted!. I find it easier to spell his surname 😉
    Yep your right,that 4 letter word beginning wit C & ending in unt is easier to spell...👍
    👍
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Uboat said:
    Dalman hung around for ten minutes then fucked off and is a great guy. The Aussies have hung around for two years and are bad bad people. 
    Just checking I've got this right. 
    No, as we don’t know that Dalman is out. It’s based on one comment on here.
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  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited June 2019

    Oh not again.  We've been through all this.  It was funny for ten minutes, 2 weeks ago.
  • kodfish
    kodfish Posts: 631
    Uboat said:
    Dalman hung around for ten minutes then fucked off and is a great guy. The Aussies have hung around for two years and are bad bad people. 
    Just checking I've got this right. 
    Has he gone then?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    No one has a clue about Dalman or whether he's walked away. As usual, people getting carried away with a made up story. 
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    We don't know.  Nobody who is prepared to tell us anything knows.  Presumably Dalman knows, but tbh if you were thinking of doing a financial deal that involved negotiation would you just blurt it out to the first person who asked?  Or if you had recently walked away from a deal would you want to spend time chatting about it to minor journalists?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Uboat said:
    Dalman hung around for ten minutes then fucked off and is a great guy. The Aussies have hung around for two years and are bad bad people. 
    Just checking I've got this right. 
    Surely it's just people having their preferred choice.

    Has anyone said Dalman is a great guy?
    Has anyone said the Aussies are bad bad people?

    It's all just a difference of opinion that people are discussing, using the evidence at hand. Some people think it a bit weird that the the Aussies are publicly touting for investers (for now or as they tick along in the future) for a football club that is reportedly losing £800k odd per month, and some people think it's no different to HSBC, a $26.5billion profit making bank, taking on new investers as they go. Some people think Dalman is a better choice because hes done it with Cardiff and would bring a wealth of experience.

    Has Dalman definitely walked then? 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    We don't know anything.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    We don't know anything.
    We know the Aussies are publicly touting for investers (for now or as they tick along in the future) and we know Dalman has done it with Cardiff and would bring a wealth of experience.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    We’re just the mushrooms
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    We don't know anything.
    We probably never have.


  • Fumbluff said:
    We’re just the mushrooms
    Situation summed up in 4 words.
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  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1821, John Constable completes The Haywain.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    1819, Queen Victoria born.
    Wasn’t she just plain old Victoria then?
    Victoria was born Vicky Pollard, and she was a plain Jane, by a quirk of fate her Uncle who was 65 when becoming king in 1830, lasted 7 years and because both his children had already died the search was on for the next Monarch. Vicky Pollard was in the right place at the right time and became Queen Victoria. Her first known quote on becoming Queen was:

    No, but, yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but, no, but, yeah but I know because I'm a queen and this should be a good gig.

  • CafcSCP
    CafcSCP Posts: 1,464
    1819, Queen Victoria born.
    Wasn’t she just plain old Victoria then?
    Victoria was born Vicky Pollard, and she was a plain Jane, by a quirk of fate her Uncle who was 65 when becoming king in 1830, lasted 7 years and because both his children had already died the search was on for the next Monarch. Vicky Pollard was in the right place at the right time and became Queen Victoria. Her first known quote on becoming Queen was:

    No, but, yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but, no, but, yeah but I know because I'm a queen and this should be a good gig.
    Bed time for me!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,312
    1821, John Constable completes The Haywain.
    Napoleon Bonaparte dies in Exile on St. Helena

    Anyone know of an island we can throw Roland on to?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    1821, John Constable completes The Haywain.
    Napoleon Bonaparte dies in Exile on St. Helena

    Anyone know of an island we can throw Roland on to?
    Isle of Dogs ? 
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited June 2019
    1821, John Constable completes The Haywain.
    Funny, he also completed a 6 footer, called Landscape: Noon the same year. Must have been prolific!
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    1821, John Constable completes The Haywain.
    Napoleon Bonaparte dies in Exile on St. Helena

    Anyone know of an island we can throw Roland on to?
    I would have said the Isles of Scilly, but Roland is far more than silly, more like downright stupid. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    edited June 2019
    This financial analysis is becoming so complex.

    If only someone could come up with a simple house buying analogy.
    Miserable Belgian genius Ronald Head Cutlet bought himself a house in South East London for £200k. It had previously been one of the premier houses in England but following a period of mismanagement by former timeshare owner Rick Muddy had fallen into the hands of a small time criminal gang fronted by East End wide boy Tony Chimneez and professional Manc wanker Micky Laters. Chimneez and Laters never really owned the gaff but they pretended they did, so that was enough for the English Fools League based in Preston Sturges to declare them fit and proper owners. Ronald bought the place in a hurry and did his own conveyancing. He could have hired a proper solicitor, but instead chose to use to use a battered old library book held together with duck tape. Ronald didn't have a clue about owning a house, but he did have a lot of spare cash in his piggy bank, so that was enough for the English Fools League (still based in Preston Sturges) to declare him a fit and proper owner. 

    It was only after he moved in with his young niece Katherine Merde that the trouble started. The other members of the residents association voted to ignore their own rules about funding and people kept dumping pigs on his lawn. Ronald hated it and went back to live with his mum in Belgium. Katherine stayed on until she was hounded out by angry locals. She would later move to Yarkshire and would accuse the Londerners of attacking her on a bus, but it never really happened. Ronald had had enough, he only intended the house to be a hobby, but now it was in danger of taking up more than 2% of his time. He declared that the house was for sale, but he refused to tell anyone the price.

    Bruce had admired the house for a long time. He thought was in the ideal location for a kangaroo farm.  Bruce had loads of money, but he wasn't stupid enough to waste it on the house, so instead  he tried to persuade his friends Sheila, Kylie and Murray to buy it. None of these had any money though, they just pretended they did. For four whole years they pretended they were minted, all the time they didn't have a brass razoo between them. Bruce, the only one with any money, was a patient man though and waited for his billy to boil. He's still waiting now.

    In the time that Bruce was waiting, various groups imaginatively known as the Americans, the Scots, the Arabs, the Chinese, and the multinational company selling shitty hyper-caffeinated canned drinks all approached Ronald to see if he would budge. Every time he got excited and upped the price. Some of the groups were mad enough to pay Ronald's price, but a group known as the Gang of Four (because their were four of them, not because of their love for '70s post punk bands) were holding Ronald to ransom over a loan they'd made to fix a hole in the roof a couple of decades ago. £7k each they wanted and it seems that none of them ever wanted a haircut. Ronald was furious but he still had an ace up his sleeve, Marmite Dalmation (real name Marmite Fükyoü) was a Turkish Taff with loads of cash who was completely free of any dealings with other houses. This is good because the EFL would deem him a fit and proper owner. This was also good because in the time wasted, the value of the house had tripled. Not in reality, but in Ronald's head.  

    As things stand no-one has a clue whether Ronald will sell to Marmite, Bruce, the Americans, Scots, Chinese or Red Stool. The house is still for sale but the price is many times over market value. The only thing we can learn from this is, never do business with a sad delusional nutter with yellow teeth.  
               
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
    Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego 
    I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited June 2019
    Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
    Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego 
    I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
    We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.
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