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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Something fishy about that pun?SuedeAdidas said:soapboxsam said:
Is the Tope a Catholic ?addick1965 said:Wow,514 new posts!! I wonder if there's any fish puns?0 -
Reality biting for Bowyer I suspect. Yes he knew the budget because he told us it would be low before he signed his contract. I am thinking that he’s now realising that signing those players that he and Gallen have identified is massively more difficult than he expected. He hasn’t got a few years experience of wheeler dealing in the lower leagues to fall back on and was nieve to say last week that four or five would be signing by today. I’m sure a couple sign but we’ve lost out on at least two targets. Today might tell us a lot.0
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Covered End said:
No one.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Who said that we "know" Muir doesn't have the money?Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
You must be joking. People have been saying the Aussie haven't got the money for months and years. Muir is part of the Aussie group.1 -
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!1 -
Exactly but justifying Dalman as a sound bet when he has less money then Muir, who "hasn't got the money" makes no sense. That's what.Covered End said:
There is no point having the money if you don't want to spend it on Charlton.Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
RD has the money as well, so what ?4 -
Bauer and Aribo were out of contract, everyone else who has left was on loan or released.nth london addick said:
I don’t doubt the opportunity to sell increased but I really don’t think he wanted it , I didn’t agree with that then but looking at what is happening now I can’t see any other reason why he is doing what he is , I also don’t see why either potential buyer has not stipulated that player sales stop during negotiations.Airman Brown said:
If he didn’t want to go up he could easily have fielded a cheaper, weaker team in 18/19. I agree you can question how much he wanted it.nth london addick said:AFKABartram said:Searching for positives but I do wonder if in the coming weeks if this latest round of takeover spec fades away whether the budget will then be scaled up.
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
thoughts?
The more I think about it believe what was said by David white that RD never wanted auto go up, when you think of the expense needed to be competitive in the championship let alone to try and go up where atleast 10 other clubs will spend 70-100 mil to get out of the league
players cost more , agents cost more ,etc
if your selling the club club the last thing you want is more cost
for that reason I expect him to not invest or back bows anywhere near what is needed
you also have players and agents not willing to conclude deals because their fear will be they won’t get their money clubs also due to the uncertainty of ownership
so so many things are now out of the normal operating controls you would want to run club or business
what we need is clarity all this mess and uncertainty is not helpful
the Aussies have been around for ages and not completed this is a big problem for me and it makes me wonder just why and how they are going to proceed but I do believe they are now firmly in driving seat
Dalman is still around and his back ground in English football makes me prefer him but also I am beginning to think ffs just make the deal and move this cancer away from the club , get it right and the low zeros that are being discussed and debated will come back ten fold if you get it right
but more than anything
Murray and Two shit chalets can just do one I am sick of them both
The operating loss in 17/18 was £13.3m. Let’s say it was £10m last season. In the Championship he will get about £8m extra revenue without doing anything.
If he runs the same budget (or lower) the operating loss drops to £2m. That is unachievable in L1. It may also get the club relegated, but from his perspective he has saved £8m or whatever part of it he doesn’t spend and the value of the club has risen giving him a better opportunity to sell.3 -
Or Duchatelet tried the same trick on Dalman that he did on the Indian/US/Aussie group ie "oh, by the way, you have to sort out the £7m ex-directors bonds even though I told you I was looking after them"Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!1 -
What you read one night changes the next night. Sorry mate. Its a constant stream of bullshit for 365 days from 365 different people that know nothing.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!0 -
Dont you think you're being a bit hypocritical here mate? One minute you're twisting it one way, then the other, but all along it don't matter what the owner is worth, as long as they're willing to invest enough.Henry Irving said:
Exactly but justifying Dalman as a sound bet when he has less money then Muir, who "hasn't got the money" makes no sense. That's what.Covered End said:
There is no point having the money if you don't want to spend it on Charlton.Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
RD has the money as well, so what ?
As far as I can see, Dalman's finances and backing have hardly been mentioned. The reason he stands out for me more than the Aussies, at this moment in time, is his experience and popularity at Cardiff, along with the contacts he presumably has in the game.
're the Aussies, there's a couple of things that concern me, those being the way they're going about attracting more investment and their lack of experience in English football. Ive also got a feeling that their ultimate plan is to use the club to school and sell Australian players in order to turn a profit, not a system tbat id personally be on favour of, but I stand to be corrected on that being tbeir plan.
If it does end being the Aussies, they'd get my backing and see how it goes.1 -
Does anyone know how/when the 8 million is paid to the club?Airman Brown said:
If he didn’t want to go up he could easily have fielded a cheaper, weaker team in 18/19. I agree you can question how much he wanted it.nth london addick said:AFKABartram said:Searching for positives but I do wonder if in the coming weeks if this latest round of takeover spec fades away whether the budget will then be scaled up.
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
thoughts?
The more I think about it believe what was said by David white that RD never wanted auto go up, when you think of the expense needed to be competitive in the championship let alone to try and go up where atleast 10 other clubs will spend 70-100 mil to get out of the league
players cost more , agents cost more ,etc
if your selling the club club the last thing you want is more cost
for that reason I expect him to not invest or back bows anywhere near what is needed
you also have players and agents not willing to conclude deals because their fear will be they won’t get their money clubs also due to the uncertainty of ownership
so so many things are now out of the normal operating controls you would want to run club or business
what we need is clarity all this mess and uncertainty is not helpful
the Aussies have been around for ages and not completed this is a big problem for me and it makes me wonder just why and how they are going to proceed but I do believe they are now firmly in driving seat
Dalman is still around and his back ground in English football makes me prefer him but also I am beginning to think ffs just make the deal and move this cancer away from the club , get it right and the low zeros that are being discussed and debated will come back ten fold if you get it right
but more than anything
Murray and Two shit chalets can just do one I am sick of them both
The operating loss in 17/18 was £13.3m. Let’s say it was £10m last season. In the Championship he will get about £8m extra revenue without doing anything.
If he runs the same budget (or lower) the operating loss drops to £2m. That is unachievable in L1. It may also get the club relegated, but from his perspective he has saved £8m or whatever part of it he doesn’t spend and the value of the club has risen giving him a better opportunity to sell.1 - Sponsored links:
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Source?orpingtonRED said:
What you read one night changes the next night. Sorry mate. Its a constant stream of bullshit for 365 days from 365 different people that know nothing.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!2 -
Personally, I have no preference for the "Aussies" or Dalman.
I don't know enough about their plans or their available resources.
I'm just trying to make sense of it all.9 -
Fumbluff said:
Source?orpingtonRED said:
What you read one night changes the next night. Sorry mate. Its a constant stream of bullshit for 365 days from 365 different people that know nothing.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!Fumbluff said:
Source?orpingtonRED said:
What you read one night changes the next night. Sorry mate. Its a constant stream of bullshit for 365 days from 365 different people that know nothing.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!0 -
There has been a constant stream of speculation, but what was said in Court is a matter of public record that you can read for yourself. What you, others and I may conclude from reading it is another thing, but it is quite clear that the accounts were not as clear as they should have been - and that is putting it mildly!orpingtonRED said:
What you read one night changes the next night. Sorry mate. Its a constant stream of bullshit for 365 days from 365 different people that know nothing.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!
Very few have claimed to actually know anything other than the very basic information, such as who is/is not still in the game. Indeed, I am quite surprised at the complete lack of information that has come to light. If one were to weed this magnificent thread of nonsense posts, I fear it would be reduced to a mere footnote.1 -
Is that source enough?0
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Fully resolving them is/was very time consuming and expensive, as the Aussies have found. Perhaps that is what's putting off other potential buyers, apart from the price that is.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!0 -
Are there people out there who still really believe the club is for sale?0
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I think that is a view that many fans share.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Henry Irving said:
Exactly but justifying Dalman as a sound bet when he has less money then Muir, who "hasn't got the money" makes no sense. That's what.Covered End said:
There is no point having the money if you don't want to spend it on Charlton.Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
RD has the money as well, so what ?
As far as I can see, Dalman's finances and backing have hardly been mentioned. The reason he stands out for me more than the Aussies, at this moment in time, is his experience and popularity at Cardiff, along with the contacts he presumably has in the game.
're the Aussies, there's a couple of things that concern me, those being the way they're going about attracting more investment and their lack of experience in English football. Ive also got a feeling that their ultimate plan is to use the club to school and sell Australian players in order to turn a profit, not a system tbat id personally be on favour of, but I stand to be corrected on that being tbeir plan.
If it does end being the Aussies, they'd get my backing and see how it goes.5 -
Yes no problem with that. Just the endless drivel of people acting like they know the inside out of a multi million deal has done my head in sorry.Redrobo said:
There has been a constant stream of speculation, but what was said in Court is a matter of public record that you can read for yourself. What you, others and I may conclude from reading it is another thing, but it is quite clear that the accounts were not as clear as they should have been - and that is putting it mildly!orpingtonRED said:
What you read one night changes the next night. Sorry mate. Its a constant stream of bullshit for 365 days from 365 different people that know nothing.Redrobo said:
I think the implication is that his DD identified debt not shown in the accounts supplied. Not really surprising given what we have heard from the Jimminez trial etc. The historical accounts seem to in a right mess and only a fool (like Rolly) would buy the club until they are fully resolved or contingency’s put into the deal to cover them.Swisdom said:
I read someone last night stating he was walking because there was more debt than he was advised about previously.superclive said:what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
If that's the case he wants to sack the guys who did hid due diligence because with a company of this size there should not be a paperclip not accounted for!
Very few have claimed to actually know anything other than the very basic information, such as who is/is not still in the game. Indeed, I am quite surprised at the complete lack of information that has come to light. If one were to weed this magnificent thread of nonsense posts, I fear it would be reduced to a mere footnote.1 -
I'd like to think that once the club attracts a sponsor, that money might go towards LB's playing budget. Until one is in place, and I'd imagine the level of investment could vary by millions depending on whose name is on the shirt, then Lee will know how much he can spend. I'd imagine that there are potential companies in the frame but typically we might be looking for a bigger offer.AFKABartram said:Searching for positives but I do wonder if in the coming weeks if this latest round of takeover spec fades away whether the budget will then be scaled up.
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
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All very quite considering the upcoming July 1st deadline people have mentioned0
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The budget is the budget, and any income goes into covering the weekly losses. I doubt we will get more than £200k from a shirt sponsor for a year (we aren't going to get BT or Virgin or Sky or Tesco, etc), so it wouldn't make much of a difference if Bow did get this as part of a fighting fund.harveys_gardener said:
I'd like to think that once the club attracts a sponsor, that money might go towards LB's playing budget. Until one is in place, and I'd imagine the level of investment could vary by millions depending on whose name is on the shirt, then Lee will know how much he can spend. I'd imagine that there are potential companies in the frame but typically we might be looking for a bigger offer.AFKABartram said:Searching for positives but I do wonder if in the coming weeks if this latest round of takeover spec fades away whether the budget will then be scaled up.
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
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me tooCovered End said:Personally, I have no preference for the "Aussies" or Dalman.
I don't know enough about their plans or their available resources.
I'm just trying to make sense of it all.
We'll only be able to judge the buyers when we know more about them and their plans.
Six questions I asked when the Spivs took over:
1. Who owns the club?
2. What is the business plan?
3. How is that plan to be funded?
4. What are the plans for the Valley?
5. What are the plans for the training ground and academy?
6. What is the exit strategy?3 -
1824, Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is established.4
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I think that most fans that take an interest in the "takeover" are aware that Andrew Muir and Roland Duchatelet personally have the money to bankroll Charlton, but neither wish to do so.Henry Irving said:Covered End said:
No one.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Who said that we "know" Muir doesn't have the money?Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
You must be joking. People have been saying the Aussie haven't got the money for months and years. Muir is part of the Aussie group.
Muir wants to be one part of a consortium of investors that have been and are still continuing to raise funds to invest in Charlton over the short/medium/long term.
No one has explained why the Aussies put out a joint statement on the OS, saying that the price had been agreed.
EFL papers were filed by them, then nothing happened.
So if they had the money available that they were willing to invest.
They had enough money to run the club conforming with EFL rules.
If both parties confirm they had agreed the price.
Why has nothing happened for more than a year ?3 -
hasn't Gerard Murphy been involved in English football previously?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Dont you think you're being a bit hypocritical here mate? One minute you're twisting it one way, then the other, but all along it don't matter what the owner is worth, as long as they're willing to invest enough.Henry Irving said:
Exactly but justifying Dalman as a sound bet when he has less money then Muir, who "hasn't got the money" makes no sense. That's what.Covered End said:
There is no point having the money if you don't want to spend it on Charlton.Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
RD has the money as well, so what ?
As far as I can see, Dalman's finances and backing have hardly been mentioned. The reason he stands out for me more than the Aussies, at this moment in time, is his experience and popularity at Cardiff, along with the contacts he presumably has in the game.
're the Aussies, there's a couple of things that concern me, those being the way they're going about attracting more investment and their lack of experience in English football. Ive also got a feeling that their ultimate plan is to use the club to school and sell Australian players in order to turn a profit, not a system tbat id personally be on favour of, but I stand to be corrected on that being tbeir plan.
If it does end being the Aussies, they'd get my backing and see how it goes.
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happyvalley said:1824, Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is established.
Did that include fish?2 -
LargeAddick said:
hasn't Gerard Murphy been involved in English football previously?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Dont you think you're being a bit hypocritical here mate? One minute you're twisting it one way, then the other, but all along it don't matter what the owner is worth, as long as they're willing to invest enough.Henry Irving said:
Exactly but justifying Dalman as a sound bet when he has less money then Muir, who "hasn't got the money" makes no sense. That's what.Covered End said:
There is no point having the money if you don't want to spend it on Charlton.Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
RD has the money as well, so what ?
As far as I can see, Dalman's finances and backing have hardly been mentioned. The reason he stands out for me more than the Aussies, at this moment in time, is his experience and popularity at Cardiff, along with the contacts he presumably has in the game.
're the Aussies, there's a couple of things that concern me, those being the way they're going about attracting more investment and their lack of experience in English football. Ive also got a feeling that their ultimate plan is to use the club to school and sell Australian players in order to turn a profit, not a system tbat id personally be on favour of, but I stand to be corrected on that being tbeir plan.
If it does end being the Aussies, they'd get my backing and see how it goes.
He did something with Wet Spam, and had some involvement with England rugby.From what I can gather he is a management consultant rather than a football man.
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There you are ..... fixed it for you.Showmetheway2gohome said:Think talksport Jim white might be shite sponsor
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I can't talk on behalf of everyone, but just wanted to reiterate my standpoint before it got twisted as it has done before, and the thread seems to have a them and us feeling about with some posters. I'm sure everyone agrees that all opinions on any new owner come from a good place and, after the last two sets of owners and senior management, who can blame people for being scepticalCovered End said:
I think that is a view that many fans share.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Henry Irving said:
Exactly but justifying Dalman as a sound bet when he has less money then Muir, who "hasn't got the money" makes no sense. That's what.Covered End said:
There is no point having the money if you don't want to spend it on Charlton.Henry Irving said:
Source?Stu_of_Kunming said:
As rich as Tan, apparently.oohaahmortimer said:
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .NapaAddick said:
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.oohaahmortimer said:Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ?
Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego
I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
According to the unreliable interweb Tan is worth USD820 million
So maybe less than Andrew Muir who we "know" doesn't have the money.
RD has the money as well, so what ?
As far as I can see, Dalman's finances and backing have hardly been mentioned. The reason he stands out for me more than the Aussies, at this moment in time, is his experience and popularity at Cardiff, along with the contacts he presumably has in the game.
're the Aussies, there's a couple of things that concern me, those being the way they're going about attracting more investment and their lack of experience in English football. Ive also got a feeling that their ultimate plan is to use the club to school and sell Australian players in order to turn a profit, not a system tbat id personally be on favour of, but I stand to be corrected on that being tbeir plan.
If it does end being the Aussies, they'd get my backing and see how it goes.3
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