I can’t see Dalman buying us without the funding to make it worthwhile. He’s worked in football long enough to know you can’t break even, never mind make a profit from just staying in the Championship.
Agreed. The only person who would buy us without the funds to be competitive in the Championship would be a lifelong Charlton fan with more money than sense. Nobody buys a loss making business with the intention of continuing to run it at a loss.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
That’s not what I’m saying. I don’t believe any of them will be buying without funding lined up to make it viable. How that funding is achieved though is a different story.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
That’s not what I’m saying. I don’t believe any of them will be buying without funding lined up to make it viable. How that funding is achieved though is a different story.
Usually by electronic transfer nowadays mate, probably BACS.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
Remember when we was the club others modelled themselves on 😥
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
That’s not what I’m saying. I don’t believe any of them will be buying without funding lined up to make it viable. How that funding is achieved though is a different story.
Usually by electronic transfer nowadays mate, probably BACS.
You’d think he’d know about electronic transfers working in IT...
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
I'd honestly be happy to stay in the Championship now for the majority of my life
If only it meant we could finish top two or end up winning the Play-Offs without being promoted I'd be quite happy
Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ? Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
You missed out Sebastian Sainsbury
If Seb Sainsbury take over we will buy one player and get one free.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
Remember when we was the club others modelled themselves on 😥
Those were the days.
It will be interesting to see how Fulham get on after relegation.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
Remember when we was the club others modelled themselves on 😥
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
Remember when we was the club others modelled themselves on 😥
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
Sadly those days have gone in the Championship. You either gamble heavily on making it to the promised land or enter a relegation battle.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
That’s not what I’m saying. I don’t believe any of them will be buying without funding lined up to make it viable. How that funding is achieved though is a different story.
Usually by electronic transfer nowadays mate, probably BACS.
Well any take over ain't gonna for at least 5 to 10 days then, going by a number of my customers
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
Sadly those days have gone in the Championship. You either gamble heavily on making it to the promised land or enter a relegation battle.
Do we know what sort of dough Dalman has ? Is he a Gerard Murphy type who puts it all together or is he super duper rich enough to spunk dough on buying a football club for ego I'm not sure I've heard anyone 100% certain Dalman has more money than sense or is he more Tony Jiminez than Sheikh Mansour
We know he had enough money that he was personal friends with Muammar Gaddafi and almost bankrolled MG’s purchase of ManU. Makes me think he has enough money to work our well for us.
He wasn’t the buyer it was MG who was from what I have read .
so once again he’s the fluffer
yes he he has contacts , so did Jiminez , so does Gerard Murphy and so did Peter Risdale .
I’m still not sure what Mehmet brings “cash” wise to the table
You missed out Sebastian Sainsbury
If Seb Sainsbury take over we will buy one player and get one free.
but only if he agrees to a clause that Roland gets the Nectar points...
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
Sadly those days have gone in the Championship. You either gamble heavily on making it to the promised land or enter a relegation battle.
Bristol City havent overly gambled though have they?
Last season signed Marley Watkins from Norwich for £1m and Mo Eisa for £1.5m (peanuts at this level sadly)
Whats worked for them is their outgoings of late; - Jonathan Kodjia was signed for £2m, sold for £11m rising to £15m - Aden Flint was signed for £300k, sold for £7m - Lloyd Kelly was an Academy lad who has just been sold for £13m
Take off the sale of Kelly (as only happened this summer) and your looking at a team who missed out on the Play-Offs by just four points
Huddersfield are another example of ensuring that the loan market gets used properly in the Championship
Nor do I think its either promotion or a relegation battle at this level; a good few sides like Nottingham Forest and Sheffield Wednesday werent really in either boat last season
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
I'd honestly be happy to stay in the Championship now for the majority of my life
If only it meant we could finish top two or end up winning the Play-Offs without being promoted I'd be quite happy
I understand that sentiment but, in my view, there has to be a sense of ambition in the club and from its fans. That it is building (sometimes rebuilding), growing and improving. Or it could all feel very stale after a short while. That’s why we always remember so fondly the Curbs years and the journey we were on then.
Everyone that seems to want to buy us, probably won't have the funds to give us stability let alone challenging for play offs
To be fair I'd take stability in the Championship even if it means we cant challenge for the Play-Offs
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
like how Curbs built the club. I would be very very happy to go back to that model and be the championship for 8 odd years building.
I'd honestly be happy to stay in the Championship now for the majority of my life
If only it meant we could finish top two or end up winning the Play-Offs without being promoted I'd be quite happy
I understand that sentiment but, in my view, there has to be a sense of ambition in the club and from its fans. That it is building (sometimes rebuilding), growing and improving. Or it could all feel very stale after a short while. That’s why we always remember so fondly the Curbs years and the journey we were on then.
Is very true and think we should always aim for a return to the Premier League though - Its not a League I'm bothered about though, the money being thrown about up there is eye watering, especially as we could spend £30m - £40m of the money that comes with promotion and even that would be questionable as to whether we can survive or not...
Searching for positives but I do wonder if in the coming weeks if this latest round of takeover spec fades away whether the budget will then be scaled up.
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
Searching for positives but I do wonder if in the coming weeks if this latest round of takeover spec fades away whether the budget will then be scaled up.
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
thoughts?
Is it much lower than last season though
i.e. This year we've signed Bonne for £200k (?), we werent able to sign anyone for a fee last year
Instead it was all loans apart from Taylor and Pratley who joined on a free
Feels in a way as though he's just carrying on from that aspect yet was happy to pay money for Bonne as he's young and has potential to be sold on for a greater sum
what is making us all think the takeover with dalman has fallen through?
I don’t, but every day that it doesn’t happen is surely a day closer to it not happening.
If you take LDT’s comments then all three parties have been on the scene for a minimum 3 months, so we are not at the preliminary stages.
Ideally it would have happened by now and the fact it hasn’t indicates something clearly isn’t right. It has a max 3-4 weeks left to complete otherwise it will be a minimum 4-5 months, more likely 10 months before this even becomes a remote possibility again.
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Aussies need extra investment, Dalman isn't rich enough to buy us on his own.
Come on lads, get your shit together and get rid of the Belgian prick.
Even if it means the likes of Lapslie and Morgan etc. get sold in the future I wont mind, provided that its for what they're worth and that money gets put back into the squad and invested properly
An approach pretty much like what Brentford and Bristol City are doing these days
If only it meant we could finish top two or end up winning the Play-Offs without being promoted I'd be quite happy
It will be interesting to see how Fulham get on after relegation.
On how not to run a football club !
Last season signed Marley Watkins from Norwich for £1m and Mo Eisa for £1.5m (peanuts at this level sadly)
Whats worked for them is their outgoings of late;
- Jonathan Kodjia was signed for £2m, sold for £11m rising to £15m
- Aden Flint was signed for £300k, sold for £7m
- Lloyd Kelly was an Academy lad who has just been sold for £13m
Take off the sale of Kelly (as only happened this summer) and your looking at a team who missed out on the Play-Offs by just four points
Huddersfield are another example of ensuring that the loan market gets used properly in the Championship
Nor do I think its either promotion or a relegation battle at this level; a good few sides like Nottingham Forest and Sheffield Wednesday werent really in either boat last season
i know Roland is an idiot, impossible to second guess and his approach to everything has been wrong, but he has never positioned a manager to set the squad up to fail and pretty much post-Powell backed his manager / recruitment team.
At the moment it is clearly woefully short and even he isn’t that stupid to know that an absolute disaster of a season will offer zero help in his attempts to offload the club.
I don’t agree but I understand where his rationale is coming from: the club is more attractive to purchase the lower it’s outgoings and contractual commitments. But he’ll also know that if it’s not sold in the next month he is stuck with it again for another year and a disaster of a year will not just undoubtedly bring him personal grief and dire publicity but also less chance of achieving near his valuation.
thoughts?
i.e. This year we've signed Bonne for £200k (?), we werent able to sign anyone for a fee last year
Instead it was all loans apart from Taylor and Pratley who joined on a free
Feels in a way as though he's just carrying on from that aspect yet was happy to pay money for Bonne as he's young and has potential to be sold on for a greater sum
If you take LDT’s comments then all three parties have been on the scene for a minimum 3 months, so we are not at the preliminary stages.
Ideally it would have happened by now and the fact it hasn’t indicates something clearly isn’t right. It has a max 3-4 weeks left to complete otherwise it will be a minimum 4-5 months, more likely 10 months before this even becomes a remote possibility again.