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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    NorthheathAddick said:
    Chizz said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    That's about half right.  But no-one knows which half.  
    What we do know is...we all want this takeover done prawnto...👍
    With the transfer window closing in early August the chances of the takeover going through this summer are shrimping by the day.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    @Gumbo

    Is something happening? Yes

    Does it mean this is 100% the last we hear of RD? No
    Oh joy.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    It's more likely Cardiff/Dalman need a decision asap.
    Dalman telling RD he has until Tuesday to accept or decline his offer.
    If decline he walks away.
    I would think on past form RD is likely to decline and continue to wait for the Aussies or a n other.
    We are told the Aussies have the money and have agreed a price, but are still stood frozen at the check out.
    Is it though. That can’t explain why a second group not the Aussies will be given a short time to close a deal. That wouldn’t be within Dalmans / Cardiff’s gift. That could only come from Duchatelet. 

    I conclude that Duchatelet is now very keen on getting this done and is now applying pressure. Sounds to me that the Aussies bid is perhaps less advantageous for Duchatelet and is becoming a back stop deal. 

    I think we are close. Would love to know who group two are. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    It's more likely Cardiff/Dalman need a decision asap.
    Dalman telling RD he has until Tuesday to accept or decline his offer.
    If decline he walks away.
    I would think on past form RD is likely to decline and continue to wait for the Aussies or a n other.
    We are told the Aussies have the money and have agreed a price, but are still stood frozen at the check out.
    This sounds the most likely because despite thinking Dalman future was untenable at Cardiff maybe he is so good at his job that Tan is prepared to forgive him his courting of a new club and being the main man at Charlton but like all dynamic successful people, Tan and Dalman both want answers from Duchatelet, so they can move on or get the deal done.
    Sorry Jimmy, but the Aussie just can't be in this Dynamic bracket or they would have sensed the Helmet wobbling ( what an image !) and pounced. I have never meet high flyers who will sit on their hands for this long without getting their own broker in or forcing Roland hand by giving a deadline day. 
    Don't know the folk involved or am ITK but have known successful businessmen and women and they don't wait for ever, they have other deals and irons in the fire. They wouldn't let an eccentric old duffer or bluffer like Duchatelet call the shots without forcing his hand or setting a time frame.

    Now back to CL members ITK.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    You could be right but it doesn’t stack up.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    You have to admire Gumbo who has taken it to the nth degree by actually having a fish pun user name.

    The rest of you, bar Fish and Fiiiish, are lightweights.


  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,004
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    It's more likely Cardiff/Dalman need a decision asap.
    Dalman telling RD he has until Tuesday to accept or decline his offer.
    If decline he walks away.
    I would think on past form RD is likely to decline and continue to wait for the Aussies or a n other.
    We are told the Aussies have the money and have agreed a price, but are still stood frozen at the check out.
    Is it though. That can’t explain why a second group not the Aussies will be given a short time to close a deal. That wouldn’t be within Dalmans / Cardiff’s gift. That could only come from Duchatelet. 

    I conclude that Duchatelet is now very keen on getting this done and is now applying pressure. Sounds to me that the Aussies bid is perhaps less advantageous for Duchatelet and is becoming a back stop deal. 

    I think we are close. Would love to know who group two are. 
    Because the Aussies are offering a worse deal than the unknown 2nd party ?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    On a less important matter I just hope people don't get excited about it being Tuesday and then get down or angry or start pointing the finger when there isn't an official announcement on the OS.

    We all want a takeover, we're all frustrated that it's not happened as yet but let's remember other fans are not the enemy or to blame. 

    Blame lies 100% with Duchatelet.

    Keep your eyes on the prize.

    #WIOTOS
  • Mal
    Mal Posts: 616
    Henry Irving said:
    You have to admire Gumbo who has taken it to the nth degree by actually having a fish pun user name.

    The rest of you, bar Fish and Fiiiish, are lightweights.


    I am to Koi to have a fish name.
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,679
    Perhaps RD has given the Aussies an exclusive until Tuesday.  Special knockdown rate, once in a life time offer, take it or leave it,  but the price goes back up at 00:01 on Wednesday and Charlton go back on the open market. 

    Meanwhile the Aussies have been going round Earls Court looking for donations, busking on the tube on the (round and round) circle line and placing their dollars at the bookies on the cricket. :smile:  
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  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    edited June 2019
    Even if Roland was selling the club to himself he'd still balls it up and blame the other party.  
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited June 2019
    I'd summarise:-

    1. Murphy has agreed a price, has the funds to buy, but not to fund a decent budget going forward, so is still looking for investors.
    2. Dalman ditto above but is confident (rightly given his connections) he can bring people on board further down the road. He is Tuesday man
    3. Post Wembley newbies, if Prague knows them, are unlikely to be Chinese and, we hope legit. These are post-Tuesday boys.
    4. Chinese consortium may be as figment of RDs imagination, given that countries economic stumble and state clampdown on export of large sums of capital.

  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,263
    The club is not for sale.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited June 2019
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    It's more likely Cardiff/Dalman need a decision asap.
    Dalman telling RD he has until Tuesday to accept or decline his offer.
    If decline he walks away.
    I would think on past form RD is likely to decline and continue to wait for the Aussies or a n other.
    We are told the Aussies have the money and have agreed a price, but are still stood frozen at the check out.
    Is it though. That can’t explain why a second group not the Aussies will be given a short time to close a deal. That wouldn’t be within Dalmans / Cardiff’s gift. That could only come from Duchatelet. 

    I conclude that Duchatelet is now very keen on getting this done and is now applying pressure. Sounds to me that the Aussies bid is perhaps less advantageous for Duchatelet and is becoming a back stop deal. 

    I think we are close. Would love to know who group two are. 
    Because the Aussies are offering a worse deal than the unknown 2nd party ?
    Well it now seems that Dalman is in a strong position to win should he wish. The new bidder seems ahead of the Aussies as well and could win if the Dalman bid falters and they can get things done in ‘a short period” whatever that means. It’s unclear to me at least, why the Aussies are not being mentioned in this scenario unless of course everyone has it wrong and it’s not Dalman at all but Muir and Co.

    To me it appears that the Aussies have either put in place their final offer and won’t or can’t change it which RD would accept if the other two bids come to nothing. Would be happy to hear other theories.

    Edit : It could also be that what Prague has heard isn’t true.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Henry Irving said:
    On a less important matter I just hope people don't get excited about it being Tuesday and then get down or angry or start pointing the finger when there isn't an official announcement on the OS.

    We all want a takeover, we're all frustrated that it's not happened as yet but let's remember other fans are not the enemy or to blame. 

    Blame lies 100% with Duchatelet.

    Keep your eyes on the prize.

    #WIOTOS
    So I need to get a refund on the pitcchfork I got at B&Q?
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    looking forward to another "deadline" tomorrow
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    The defence looks fairly fishy to me. Bit of a gap in the middle

    Dillon Filletts In goal

    Ben Purringtuna
    Naby Sark
    Halibut Lennon (signing from Southend)
    Chris Sole-y

    who can help with midfield


  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,767
    Swisdom said:
    The defence looks fairly fishy to me. Bit of a gap in the middle

    Dillon Filletts In goal

    Ben Purringtuna
    Naby Sark
    Halibut Lennon (signing from Southend)
    Chris Sole-y

    who can help with midfield


    Jon Fortuna would have been better. And you forgot Mark Fish
  • cafc1263
    cafc1263 Posts: 191
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    It's more likely Cardiff/Dalman need a decision asap.
    Dalman telling RD he has until Tuesday to accept or decline his offer.
    If decline he walks away.
    I would think on past form RD is likely to decline and continue to wait for the Aussies or a n other.
    We are told the Aussies have the money and have agreed a price, but are still stood frozen at the check out.
    Is it though. That can’t explain why a second group not the Aussies will be given a short time to close a deal. That wouldn’t be within Dalmans / Cardiff’s gift. That could only come from Duchatelet. 

    I conclude that Duchatelet is now very keen on getting this done and is now applying pressure. Sounds to me that the Aussies bid is perhaps less advantageous for Duchatelet and is becoming a back stop deal. 

    I think we are close. Would love to know who group two are. 
    Because the Aussies are offering a worse deal than the unknown 2nd party ?
    Well it now seems that Dalman is in a strong position to win should he wish. The new bidder seems ahead of the Aussies as well and could win if the Dalman bid falters and they can get things done in ‘a short period” whatever that means. It’s unclear to me at least, why the Aussies are not being mentioned in this scenario unless of course everyone has it wrong and it’s not Dalman at all but Muir and Co.

    To me it appears that the Aussies have either put in place their final offer and won’t or can’t change it which RD would accept if the other two bids come to nothing. Would be happy to hear other theories.

    Edit : It could also be that what Prague has heard isn’t true.

    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered End said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Am I right ?

    There is one bidder that is very close to closing the deal and that bidder is Mehmet Dalman. Duchatelet has told Dalman that he wants the deal concluded and has set a deadline date for that to happen on Tuesday 2nd July. Should that deal not be concluded by the deadline, then he has told another bidder that has come to the party since the Wembley win that they will then be given a short period of time in which to conclude a deal.

    The Australian Consortium have not gone away but are not involved in the scenario above.
    It's more likely Cardiff/Dalman need a decision asap.
    Dalman telling RD he has until Tuesday to accept or decline his offer.
    If decline he walks away.
    I would think on past form RD is likely to decline and continue to wait for the Aussies or a n other.
    We are told the Aussies have the money and have agreed a price, but are still stood frozen at the check out.
    Is it though. That can’t explain why a second group not the Aussies will be given a short time to close a deal. That wouldn’t be within Dalmans / Cardiff’s gift. That could only come from Duchatelet. 

    I conclude that Duchatelet is now very keen on getting this done and is now applying pressure. Sounds to me that the Aussies bid is perhaps less advantageous for Duchatelet and is becoming a back stop deal. 

    I think we are close. Would love to know who group two are. 
    Because the Aussies are offering a worse deal than the unknown 2nd party ?
    Well it now seems that Dalman is in a strong position to win should he wish. The new bidder seems ahead of the Aussies as well and could win if the Dalman bid falters and they can get things done in ‘a short period” whatever that means. It’s unclear to me at least, why the Aussies are not being mentioned in this scenario unless of course everyone has it wrong and it’s not Dalman at all but Muir and Co.

    To me it appears that the Aussies have either put in place their final offer and won’t or can’t change it which RD would accept if the other two bids come to nothing. Would be happy to hear other theories.

    Edit : It could also be that what Prague has heard isn’t true.

    Or may be that if the deal isn’t completed the other group have asked for exclusivity for a short period .
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  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    Swisdom said:
    The defence looks fairly fishy to me. Bit of a gap in the middle

    Dillon Filletts In goal

    Ben Purringtuna
    Naby Sark
    Halibut Lennon (signing from Southend)
    Chris Sole-y

    who can help with midfield


    Are you sure that is i n the right section? We had Tamer Tuna anyway.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Henry Irving said:
    On a less important matter I just hope people don't get excited about it being Tuesday and then get down or angry or start pointing the finger when there isn't an official announcement on the OS.

    We all want a takeover, we're all frustrated that it's not happened as yet but let's remember other fans are not the enemy or to blame. 

    Blame lies 100% with Duchatelet.

    Keep your eyes on the prize.

    #WIOTOS
    If it's not done by Tuesday

    HappyValley will be working overtime on this thread
    Thread views increase by a few thousand
    Seat for every post we'll probably nearly have filled The London Stadium

    Silver linings and all that, HI.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    Taxi_Lad said:
    Swisdom said:
    The defence looks fairly fishy to me. Bit of a gap in the middle

    Dillon Filletts In goal

    Ben Purringtuna
    Naby Sark
    Halibut Lennon (signing from Southend)
    Chris Sole-y

    who can help with midfield


    Jon Fortuna would have been better. And you forgot Mark Fish
    Mike Salmon or Sardine Kiely in goal?


  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,274
    Swisdom said:
    The defence looks fairly fishy to me. Bit of a gap in the middle

    Dillon Filletts In goal

    Ben Purringtuna
    Naby Sark
    Halibut Lennon (signing from Southend)
    Chris Sole-y

    who can help with midfield


    “Flag”
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Scoham said:
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    If there is movement from Duchatelet on price, that is always more significant than news of a buyer. The club has to be priced at a level people a willing to pay. 
    If you believe NLA then the price has dropped.

    Price did drop, but not sure where the price has been over the last year or so. I suspect the price has halved (at least) over that time, but is still high. 
  • Blackheathboy
    Blackheathboy Posts: 230
    Why would anyone bid to buy Charlton, you would make an offer and if it was unsuccessful move on .
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Blackheathboy said:
    Why would anyone bid to buy Charlton, you would make an offer and if it was unsuccessful move on .
    In a normal negotiation you bid low against a higher offer and settle somewhere in the middle. It really depends how much the buyer wants to buy and the seller wants to sell. With more than one bidder it makes it a bit more complex. You would likely not bid and walk away when your first bid was countered.

    The above is predicted on a rational and sane seller - there lies the problem.
  • johnnyhumphrey
    johnnyhumphrey Posts: 449
    Yes,they would look eelswhere. A team in Whales maybe? 
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1835, James Pratt & John Smith are hanged outside Newgate prison.They are the last men executed for committing buggery.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    I still think there is only one likely scenario as to how this all plays out.  The monumental genius that is Roland has controlled the game, from his lair in Belgium, moving pieces into place, dropping hints and rumours, holding back details, threatening, cajoling and pleading, all to one end.  Selling the club.  

    And, throughout that process, I have slowly begun to realise how his mental stability has shifted, over time.  So, I can now see only one end-game.  One, obvious conclusion.  We should all have been able to see this coming.  I am glad I have finally been able to work it out.  It's clear to me now, how Roland's sale of Charlton will end up. 
     
    When the negotiations are all played out, the contracts signed, the money exchanged and all the paperwork settled with the football authorities, there's only one thing that's likely.  Roland, instead of selling Charlton, will have accidentally bought some other club as well.  
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