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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I've heard there's a Charlton fan who owns a bank and he's interested in the takeover. Could be something in it?
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Chizz said:Stu_of_Kunming said:lancashire lad said:this aussie source is saying absolutely nothing that others have not said before and was in a newspaper report ,D.Mail?, over year ago3
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I can’t believe someone’s only just swum the channel...0
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Chizz said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:It's interesting to see how much reliability is being assumed of one, unnamed source, giving a view on an unnamed site, about a conversation with another unnamed person. Especially one that includes the line "the investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club".
Maybe the poster is ignoring the fact that is literally the point of having multiple shareholders; and is the model behind just about every public company in the world. And the fact that one of the shareholders is significantly more wealthy than Roland Duchatelet.
As a post that sheds more heat than light on the issue, I would score it about a nine on the internationally-adopted Doucher Scale.
Some people share sourced information - that tends to be both more reliable and more interesting than other posts which are unsourced, add no unknown information and contain information that's wrong.
My guess - and, of course, it's only a guess - is that there are people that want to dislike the Aussies (presumably because Roland has failed to sell to them) and therefore enjoy a post that seems to criticise them.
Also, like I said before, people who were posing genuine questions about the Aussies in the early days, were getting largely scoffed at from some quarters quit a bit, with no let up.1 -
Response to De Turck / Duchatelet’s claims on the ex-directors’ loans and the price not changing. It’s a bit dry and technical but I still felt their version needed challenging.
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:It's interesting to see how much reliability is being assumed of one, unnamed source, giving a view on an unnamed site, about a conversation with another unnamed person. Especially one that includes the line "the investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club".
Maybe the poster is ignoring the fact that is literally the point of having multiple shareholders; and is the model behind just about every public company in the world. And the fact that one of the shareholders is significantly more wealthy than Roland Duchatelet.
As a post that sheds more heat than light on the issue, I would score it about a nine on the internationally-adopted Doucher Scale.
Some people share sourced information - that tends to be both more reliable and more interesting than other posts which are unsourced, add no unknown information and contain information that's wrong.
My guess - and, of course, it's only a guess - is that there are people that want to dislike the Aussies (presumably because Roland has failed to sell to them) and therefore enjoy a post that seems to criticise them.
Also, like I said before, people who were posing genuine questions about the Aussies in the early days, were getting largely scoffed at from some quarters quit a bit, with no let up.1 -
Cardinal Sin said:soapboxsam said:happyvalley said:1874, one of the greatest ever Britons born, Winston Churchill.
Between 39-45 I concur but lots of working class folk didn't want him in peace time. And many London port Authority workers didn't want to transport his body up the Thames in Feb 65.
I did a school project on him when young and I don't live that far from Chartwell, Westerham and being a NT member enjoy going there a few times a year.
A very interesting strong character who was a man of his times and rich upbringing.
He was flawed in many ways but was the main individual who made sure we didn't go the same way as France, Holland, Poland etc. Oh yes.3 -
Chizz said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:It's interesting to see how much reliability is being assumed of one, unnamed source, giving a view on an unnamed site, about a conversation with another unnamed person. Especially one that includes the line "the investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club".
Maybe the poster is ignoring the fact that is literally the point of having multiple shareholders; and is the model behind just about every public company in the world. And the fact that one of the shareholders is significantly more wealthy than Roland Duchatelet.
As a post that sheds more heat than light on the issue, I would score it about a nine on the internationally-adopted Doucher Scale.
Some people share sourced information - that tends to be both more reliable and more interesting than other posts which are unsourced, add no unknown information and contain information that's wrong.
My guess - and, of course, it's only a guess - is that there are people that want to dislike the Aussies (presumably because Roland has failed to sell to them) and therefore enjoy a post that seems to criticise them.
There's been much talk around their lack of funds.
The hanging about bit does also. They've nowhere else to go because nobody else will entertain them.
Of course they can say that Charlton were the only club in their minds that fits the bill and they're hanging in there to somehow come to our rescue.
But I'd take all that with a large pinch of bollox.1 -
Airman Brown said:Response to De Turck / Duchatelet’s claims on the ex-directors’ loans and the price not changing. It’s a bit dry and technical but I still felt their version needed challenging.
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carly burn said:Chizz said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:It's interesting to see how much reliability is being assumed of one, unnamed source, giving a view on an unnamed site, about a conversation with another unnamed person. Especially one that includes the line "the investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club".
Maybe the poster is ignoring the fact that is literally the point of having multiple shareholders; and is the model behind just about every public company in the world. And the fact that one of the shareholders is significantly more wealthy than Roland Duchatelet.
As a post that sheds more heat than light on the issue, I would score it about a nine on the internationally-adopted Doucher Scale.
Some people share sourced information - that tends to be both more reliable and more interesting than other posts which are unsourced, add no unknown information and contain information that's wrong.
My guess - and, of course, it's only a guess - is that there are people that want to dislike the Aussies (presumably because Roland has failed to sell to them) and therefore enjoy a post that seems to criticise them.
There's been much talk around their lack of funds.
The hanging about bit does also. They've nowhere else to go because nobody else will entertain them.
Of course they can say that Charlton were the only club in their minds that fits the bill and they're hanging in there to somehow come to our rescue.
But I'd take all that with a large pinch of bollox.3 -
That was a joke btw0
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1878, Cleopatra's Needle is erected on the Victoria Embankment.0
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HardyAddick said:Airman Brown said:Response to De Turck / Duchatelet’s claims on the ex-directors’ loans and the price not changing. It’s a bit dry and technical but I still felt their version needed challenging.
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1878.5, Lord Mountbatten's dog gets clobbered by a speeding Benz Motorwagen0
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.1 -
happyvalley said:1878, Cleopatra's Needle is erected on the Victoria Embankment.
Cant beat a good erection2 -
Bilko said:Can we start a protest against the Aussie’s.2
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:JamesSeed said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.0 -
blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
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SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.2 -
According to my impeccable, reliable source .. ‘At the moment Aussies and Dalman are behind another group’ ... that’s it, really
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JamesSeed said:blackpool72 said:I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount.
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation.
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.
Because the Aussies certainly won't.
Feel free to correct me if they do.0 -
Uboat said:blackpool72 said:Uboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.
Unless he changes his mind the rest don't have the money.
The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club.
That is clearly not the case.0 -
Stu_of_Kunming said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:Chizz said:It's interesting to see how much reliability is being assumed of one, unnamed source, giving a view on an unnamed site, about a conversation with another unnamed person. Especially one that includes the line "the investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club".
Maybe the poster is ignoring the fact that is literally the point of having multiple shareholders; and is the model behind just about every public company in the world. And the fact that one of the shareholders is significantly more wealthy than Roland Duchatelet.
As a post that sheds more heat than light on the issue, I would score it about a nine on the internationally-adopted Doucher Scale.
Some people share sourced information - that tends to be both more reliable and more interesting than other posts which are unsourced, add no unknown information and contain information that's wrong.
My guess - and, of course, it's only a guess - is that there are people that want to dislike the Aussies (presumably because Roland has failed to sell to them) and therefore enjoy a post that seems to criticise them.
Also, like I said before, people who were posing genuine questions about the Aussies in the early days, were getting largely scoffed at from some quarters quit a bit, with no let up.1 -
i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.1 -
SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.0 -
Sale of Charlton is not panto,
Oh yes it is
Because Roland lies when he opens his mouth doesn't mean Aussies, Dalman, Murray, haven't told a few porkies as well.
Roland's Behind you.
Even the apathetic Michael Gliksten tenure ended eventually.
Boo
Some day our Prince will come.
If the shoe fits
Carry on counting the pages until then.
was Sid James in that one ?
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JamesSe%ed said:Uboat said:blackpool72 said:Uboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.
Unless he changes his mind the rest don't have the money.
The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club.
That is clearly not the case.
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Stu_of_Kunming said:JamesSeed said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.
In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.
Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football.
Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open.4
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