The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

blackpool72 said:

iainment said:

blackpool72 said:

JamesSeed said:

blackpool72 said:

JamesSeed said:

blackpool72 said:

I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount. 
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation. 
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.

The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might. 

Good I hope he does.
Because the Aussies certainly won't. 
Feel free to correct me if they do.

I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club. 

Mr.Dublin ?

Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.

Thank you.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today. 

JamesSeed said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

JamesSeed said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!

Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.

It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential  new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..

Its not people ‘not wanting’ to discuss it, it’s the fact that the whole thing has been covered over and over again, but the same questions keep being asked because, I can only assume, people to read the replies. 

Not totally falling in line with the version of events you present, is not the same thing as not reading replies though, is it?

As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.

Yes, but I’ve said that myself in the past, quite a few times. I suspect (guessing) that they lost a major investor, possibly when lawyers unearthed some info, or because that investor learned how much money the club loses, or for any number of other reasons, and pulled out, meaning NLA was quite right when he said they haven’t got the dough, because they hadn’t. This scenario may have happened more than once. I’ve never claimed that they’ve always had the dough, ready to go. 

In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.

Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football. 

Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open. 

ElfsborgAddick said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

blackpool72 said:

iainment said:

blackpool72 said:

JamesSeed said:

blackpool72 said:

JamesSeed said:

blackpool72 said:

I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount. 
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation. 
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.

The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might. 

Good I hope he does.
Because the Aussies certainly won't. 
Feel free to correct me if they do.

I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club. 

Mr.Dublin ?

Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.

Thank you.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today. 

wetwipe method the best, ignore the rest. 

I get mine from the baby section in Wilkos, only 70p

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

blackpool72 said:

iainment said:

blackpool72 said:

JamesSeed said:

blackpool72 said:

JamesSeed said:

blackpool72 said:

I've believed all along that the Aussies don't have the cash.
Muir could obviously afford to buy Charlton on his own but he has stated he only wants to invest a small amount. 
Without Muir putting up a substantial amount the rest of the consortium just don't have the fund.
All the Aussies are achieving I'm my opinion is confusing the whole situation. 
I would rather they walk and let someone else have a go at buying us.

The Aussies didn’t stop Dalman buying the club. He still might. 

Good I hope he does.
Because the Aussies certainly won't. 
Feel free to correct me if they do.

I don’t need to correct you Mr Dublin, I agree with you to the extent that I think they’re only about 25% likely to buy the club. 

Mr.Dublin ?

Blackpool is the meaning of Dublin.

Thank you.
Learn something new every day on here.
Along with how to wipe my arse that's the 2nd thing today. 

wetwipe method the best, ignore the rest. 

I get mine from the baby section in Wilkos, only 70p

Terrible for the environment so, for 70 pence, you can wind the tree huggers up an all

ElfsborgAddick said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface

What if you only have a walk in shower?

roseandcrown said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Foot on side of bath gives better crack surface

What if you only have a walk in shower?

Had to read that a couple of times to check 

AFKABartram said:

JamesSeed said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

JamesSeed said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!

Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.

It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential  new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..

Its not people ‘not wanting’ to discuss it, it’s the fact that the whole thing has been covered over and over again, but the same questions keep being asked because, I can only assume, people to read the replies. 

Not totally falling in line with the version of events you present, is not the same thing as not reading replies though, is it?

As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.

Yes, but I’ve said that myself in the past, quite a few times. I suspect (guessing) that they lost a major investor, possibly when lawyers unearthed some info, or because that investor learned how much money the club loses, or for any number of other reasons, and pulled out, meaning NLA was quite right when he said they haven’t got the dough, because they hadn’t. This scenario may have happened more than once. I’ve never claimed that they’ve always had the dough, ready to go. 

In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.

Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football. 

Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open. 

Fair enough @JamesSeed

I’ll.say one thing though. I’ve generally been quite open minded with regards the Aussies approach (still am to a degree as I don’t think I know enough details).

However you have an ‘in’ and regular contact with a key member of this group. You gain more information  from them than it seems anyone else and whether intentionally or unintentionally are seen as their public voice into the Charlton community.

If in your unique position you say that you would actually favour a rival group / individual, that is indeed quite telling and effectively gives credibility to others (who are not as well connected as you) concerns and fears in relation to the Aussie bid. 

JamesSeed said:

AFKABartram said:

JamesSeed said:

Stu_of_Kunming said:

JamesSeed said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!

Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.

It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential  new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..

Its not people ‘not wanting’ to discuss it, it’s the fact that the whole thing has been covered over and over again, but the same questions keep being asked because, I can only assume, people to read the replies. 

Not totally falling in line with the version of events you present, is not the same thing as not reading replies though, is it?

As an example, you keep telling us the sale price is totally covered and they are only looking for investors for ongoing costs, whereas others dispute that and have been told from other sources that the Aussies were still seeking investors for the sale price whilst papers were being lodged with the EFL.

Yes, but I’ve said that myself in the past, quite a few times. I suspect (guessing) that they lost a major investor, possibly when lawyers unearthed some info, or because that investor learned how much money the club loses, or for any number of other reasons, and pulled out, meaning NLA was quite right when he said they haven’t got the dough, because they hadn’t. This scenario may have happened more than once. I’ve never claimed that they’ve always had the dough, ready to go. 

In fact technically NLA is always right because I don’t think they have a bank account with dough in it, because these investors don’t operate like that. I suspect when the £33m was agreed they all got ready to transfer the dough, but then the price went up, meaning they’re back to square one. This may also affect paperwork for the EFL @AFKABartram but just guessing.

Have also said a couple of time’s that I had a slight preference for Dalman over the Aussies, in that it might be more simple with one owner, and because of his reputation in football. 

Have passed on Henry’s desire for Aussies to be more open. 

Fair enough @JamesSeed

I’ll.say one thing though. I’ve generally been quite open minded with regards the Aussies approach (still am to a degree as I don’t think I know enough details).

However you have an ‘in’ and regular contact with a key member of this group. You gain more information  from them than it seems anyone else and whether intentionally or unintentionally are seen as their public voice into the Charlton community.

If in your unique position you say that you would actually favour a rival group / individual, that is indeed quite telling and effectively gives credibility to others (who are not as well connected as you) concerns and fears in relation to the Aussie bid. 

Or else it shows how little I really know ;-)

One thing I will say about the Aussies, whether they have the dough or not, they’re good sorts. Sports mad, enthusiastic and honest. In the world of football ownership those qualities are not to be dismissed lightly. 

robinofottershaw said:

Just seen the following on the other site written by someone called addicknz:


I dont post that often, and have mentioned before that I worked for both Australian and NZ Football a few years back. I have been in contact with them again for work reasons and happened to have a conversation about the Aussies trying to buy the Addicks.

It was explained to me that the group responsible for the purchase are showing an interest in a number of clubs globally of which Charlton is just one. They have never had any cash for the purchase and use negotiations with a football club as leverage to generate investors' interest. As things stand currently they have not managed to secure enough investment/interest to purchase a football club. Charlton has engaged with the Aussies more than any of their previous attempts and consequently they feel that they have a better chance of a purchase.

However there is still a massive hole in the funds available to purchase and it is thought unlikely that this will change. The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club. There are also questions over the ability to continue to support the club financially, post purchase (there are no plans to look for additional funds once sale is complete).

There is a Utopian view that once the sale is complete, the club will be launch pad for Aussie players trying to make it in the UK. The impact of this strategy on both Academy and player purchase is untested, but the concerns over ongoing finance after point of sale suggest that this has also has a cost saving approach (a bit like RD and his 'network' a while back).

The person I spoke with has no axe to grind and I dont doubt his info, but whether it is common knowledge or poetic license I am unsure.