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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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don't get cocky sonny - you've scooped one transfer recently but i'll be back - once i'm back on dry land i'll be back bigger and better than ever - rifling off transfer scoops like an automatic machine gun - my vast network of sources are having some well earned down time ready for a big month. As for the takeover - where's all the rich arabs when u actually need them eh?...Redhenry said:
I thought it was Bexley Boy from the other site....DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources
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Pull out like Kevin Cash did.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:robinofottershaw said:Just seen the following on the other site written by someone called addicknz:
I dont post that often, and have mentioned before that I worked for both Australian and NZ Football a few years back. I have been in contact with them again for work reasons and happened to have a conversation about the Aussies trying to buy the Addicks.
It was explained to me that the group responsible for the purchase are showing an interest in a number of clubs globally of which Charlton is just one. They have never had any cash for the purchase and use negotiations with a football club as leverage to generate investors' interest. As things stand currently they have not managed to secure enough investment/interest to purchase a football club. Charlton has engaged with the Aussies more than any of their previous attempts and consequently they feel that they have a better chance of a purchase.
However there is still a massive hole in the funds available to purchase and it is thought unlikely that this will change. The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club. There are also questions over the ability to continue to support the club financially, post purchase (there are no plans to look for additional funds once sale is complete).
There is a Utopian view that once the sale is complete, the club will be launch pad for Aussie players trying to make it in the UK. The impact of this strategy on both Academy and player purchase is untested, but the concerns over ongoing finance after point of sale suggest that this has also has a cost saving approach (a bit like RD and his 'network' a while back).
The person I spoke with has no axe to grind and I dont doubt his info, but whether it is common knowledge or poetic license I am unsure.IF that is true then don't want them anywhere near us. Recipie for disaster and using negotiations to generate interest is like @AFKAbartram rounding a few up on here for a meeting with the club with a view of raising funds for acquisition and more importantly running costs after.
Sounds proper dodgy IF this is true and more perilous than current ownership...who as a one man clownshow has to at least pay the bills to stand any chance of seeing any return on investment.
A consortium of random strangers looking for financial return poses great threat to going concern if one or two pull out after sale and withdraw future investment.
Can't imagine many will commit 5 years worth of funding at the outset so really alarms me reading this sort of stuff as seems an inherently flawed model and hugely risky for the good of CAFC.0 -
If only Rolands old man did 70 years agoCovered End said:
Pull out like Kevin Cash did.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:robinofottershaw said:Just seen the following on the other site written by someone called addicknz:
I dont post that often, and have mentioned before that I worked for both Australian and NZ Football a few years back. I have been in contact with them again for work reasons and happened to have a conversation about the Aussies trying to buy the Addicks.
It was explained to me that the group responsible for the purchase are showing an interest in a number of clubs globally of which Charlton is just one. They have never had any cash for the purchase and use negotiations with a football club as leverage to generate investors' interest. As things stand currently they have not managed to secure enough investment/interest to purchase a football club. Charlton has engaged with the Aussies more than any of their previous attempts and consequently they feel that they have a better chance of a purchase.
However there is still a massive hole in the funds available to purchase and it is thought unlikely that this will change. The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club. There are also questions over the ability to continue to support the club financially, post purchase (there are no plans to look for additional funds once sale is complete).
There is a Utopian view that once the sale is complete, the club will be launch pad for Aussie players trying to make it in the UK. The impact of this strategy on both Academy and player purchase is untested, but the concerns over ongoing finance after point of sale suggest that this has also has a cost saving approach (a bit like RD and his 'network' a while back).
The person I spoke with has no axe to grind and I dont doubt his info, but whether it is common knowledge or poetic license I am unsure.IF that is true then don't want them anywhere near us. Recipie for disaster and using negotiations to generate interest is like @AFKAbartram rounding a few up on here for a meeting with the club with a view of raising funds for acquisition and more importantly running costs after.
Sounds proper dodgy IF this is true and more perilous than current ownership...who as a one man clownshow has to at least pay the bills to stand any chance of seeing any return on investment.
A consortium of random strangers looking for financial return poses great threat to going concern if one or two pull out after sale and withdraw future investment.
Can't imagine many will commit 5 years worth of funding at the outset so really alarms me reading this sort of stuff as seems an inherently flawed model and hugely risky for the good of CAFC.16 -
The context where it was used to have a go at the Aussies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
In what context?SouthLincsAddick said:
We will have to agree to disagree. I saw a few people quote the papers with the EFL line just a few pages ago. Perhaps you didn't see them.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't think I misread it at all. You said the Aussie bashing is astonishing - I said that, in my opinion, people are just asking question and perfectly in their right to do do.SouthLincsAddick said:
Blimey, still mis-reading my post. Well I tried.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, I know what you meant, but my point was that the only thing I've seen on here regarding anything remotely to do with painting RD in a good light, whether it's believing what him or his lackies say, or commenting on them taking the club in the right direction etc etc, was the post I mentioned from a couple of days ago, and I definitely don't think there's a contingent of people who believe them. After every statement, radio interview, or fan's forum, they seem to be getting pelters from all angles and picked apart within hours.SouthLincsAddick said:
Sorry mate, you've must've misread what I wrote. I said there's a contingent who believe the spin Roland and lackies say is true, especially when it suits their unfounded argument. I said nothing about anyone believing RD is going in right direction.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, completely missed them. I know there was someone post a oneliner on this thread a couple of days ago about RD now going in the right direction 're. Bowyer and a couple of singing, or something, but other than that I get the feeling that the dislike and distrust in RD and everyone associated with him was pretty much 100%SouthLincsAddick said:
Er. yeah.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Is there?SouthLincsAddick said:
We can discuss pros and cons of potential owners for eternity but we as fans have no say in who buys the club and only limited say in how a club is run. Bring on the Bundesliga model where the clubs members still hold a majority of voting rights.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.
It’s the weekend mate, don’t fret about it.
We agree to disagree, let it go.0 -
On form today Rambo, poor yourself another whisky mate.blackpool72 said:
If only Rolands old man did 70 years agoCovered End said:
Pull out like Kevin Cash did.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:robinofottershaw said:Just seen the following on the other site written by someone called addicknz:
I dont post that often, and have mentioned before that I worked for both Australian and NZ Football a few years back. I have been in contact with them again for work reasons and happened to have a conversation about the Aussies trying to buy the Addicks.
It was explained to me that the group responsible for the purchase are showing an interest in a number of clubs globally of which Charlton is just one. They have never had any cash for the purchase and use negotiations with a football club as leverage to generate investors' interest. As things stand currently they have not managed to secure enough investment/interest to purchase a football club. Charlton has engaged with the Aussies more than any of their previous attempts and consequently they feel that they have a better chance of a purchase.
However there is still a massive hole in the funds available to purchase and it is thought unlikely that this will change. The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club. There are also questions over the ability to continue to support the club financially, post purchase (there are no plans to look for additional funds once sale is complete).
There is a Utopian view that once the sale is complete, the club will be launch pad for Aussie players trying to make it in the UK. The impact of this strategy on both Academy and player purchase is untested, but the concerns over ongoing finance after point of sale suggest that this has also has a cost saving approach (a bit like RD and his 'network' a while back).
The person I spoke with has no axe to grind and I dont doubt his info, but whether it is common knowledge or poetic license I am unsure.IF that is true then don't want them anywhere near us. Recipie for disaster and using negotiations to generate interest is like @AFKAbartram rounding a few up on here for a meeting with the club with a view of raising funds for acquisition and more importantly running costs after.
Sounds proper dodgy IF this is true and more perilous than current ownership...who as a one man clownshow has to at least pay the bills to stand any chance of seeing any return on investment.
A consortium of random strangers looking for financial return poses great threat to going concern if one or two pull out after sale and withdraw future investment.
Can't imagine many will commit 5 years worth of funding at the outset so really alarms me reading this sort of stuff as seems an inherently flawed model and hugely risky for the good of CAFC.0 -
Yeah, you're right mate. Give that one to me then.SouthLincsAddick said:
The context where it was used to have a go at the Aussies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
In what context?SouthLincsAddick said:
We will have to agree to disagree. I saw a few people quote the papers with the EFL line just a few pages ago. Perhaps you didn't see them.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't think I misread it at all. You said the Aussie bashing is astonishing - I said that, in my opinion, people are just asking question and perfectly in their right to do do.SouthLincsAddick said:
Blimey, still mis-reading my post. Well I tried.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, I know what you meant, but my point was that the only thing I've seen on here regarding anything remotely to do with painting RD in a good light, whether it's believing what him or his lackies say, or commenting on them taking the club in the right direction etc etc, was the post I mentioned from a couple of days ago, and I definitely don't think there's a contingent of people who believe them. After every statement, radio interview, or fan's forum, they seem to be getting pelters from all angles and picked apart within hours.SouthLincsAddick said:
Sorry mate, you've must've misread what I wrote. I said there's a contingent who believe the spin Roland and lackies say is true, especially when it suits their unfounded argument. I said nothing about anyone believing RD is going in right direction.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, completely missed them. I know there was someone post a oneliner on this thread a couple of days ago about RD now going in the right direction 're. Bowyer and a couple of singing, or something, but other than that I get the feeling that the dislike and distrust in RD and everyone associated with him was pretty much 100%SouthLincsAddick said:
Er. yeah.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Is there?SouthLincsAddick said:
We can discuss pros and cons of potential owners for eternity but we as fans have no say in who buys the club and only limited say in how a club is run. Bring on the Bundesliga model where the clubs members still hold a majority of voting rights.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.
It’s the weekend mate, don’t fret about it.
We agree to disagree, let it go.
What goes down in South Lincolnshire on a weekend then?0 -
Blackpool 72 , you are a legend . Don't ever change sir .2
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Do me best matesinceiwasyoung said:Blackpool 72 , you are a legend . Don't ever change sir .1 -
He's too old to change.sinceiwasyoung said:Blackpool 72 , you are a legend . Don't ever change sir .1 -
since when has Turkey not been dry land? 😜DOUCHER said:
don't get cocky sonny - you've scooped one transfer recently but i'll be back - once i'm back on dry land i'll be back bigger and better than ever - rifling off transfer scoops like an automatic machine gun - my vast network of sources are having some well earned down time ready for a big month. As for the takeover - where's all the rich arabs when u actually need them eh?...Redhenry said:
I thought it was Bexley Boy from the other site....DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources2 - Sponsored links:
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See what you did therehappyvalley said:X1 -
You hitting on me Elf’sElfsborgAddick said:
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Interesting point about Gonville Bromhead. (The character played by Michael Caine.) The only reason his platoon was left at Rourke's Drift (or KwaJimu as the Zulus called it) was that Bromhead was practically deaf. It wasn't considered that sensible that an officer of the line be involved in battle using an ear trumpet...happyvalley said:1879, Battle of Rorke's Drift, Michael Caine's finest hour.0 -
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You hitting on me Elf’sElfsborgAddick said:
Definitely not, that expression says you're too old for me.
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I know I have been drinking Buds and Baileys am I being too optimistic in thinking Aussies can'tvraise the cash. Roland wants out and Mehmet Dalman is in deep negotiations with Rowland i that they will strike a deal. Both of them hard negotiators. Surely Roland knows this is the only way to get out. I am clinging on hope. Mehmet has not ruled himsekf out. Was is the betting that Dalman has increased his offer? Don't forget £30 mil was a starting bid. I would imagine someoneike him saying "come on roland £40 million and i will take the club of your hands". Youbknow it makes sense.0
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It's irrelevant how much money he has, how much money is he willing to invest? Clearly not enough to buy the club outright otherwise losing investors wouldn't have mattered before.JamesSeed said:
And a good afternoon to you too Stu!Stu_of_Kunming said:
You may think that, many people don't.JamesSe%ed said:
I think he’s mixing it up with the post sale model.Uboat said:
Right, but what he says is:blackpool72 said:
Not really as Muir has stated he only wants to put in about 10 % of the money.Uboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.
Unless he changes his mind the rest don't have the money.
The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club.
That is clearly not the case.
How many people do you reckon, when Muir is part of the consortium, and he’s apparently richer than Roland?
The ‘post sale strategy’ is multiple investors ‘none of whom are rich enough to buy the club on their own’. I’m pretty sure that is what he’s confusing it with. But if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. 👍
Not that I blame him, I can't see why anyone would want to blow their money on the Madness that is English football.4 -
There we are in total agreement 👍👍Stu_of_Kunming said:
It's irrelevant how much money he has, how much money is he willing to invest? Clearly not enough to buy the club outright otherwise losing investors wouldn't have mattered before.JamesSeed said:
And a good afternoon to you too Stu!Stu_of_Kunming said:
You may think that, many people don't.JamesSe%ed said:
I think he’s mixing it up with the post sale model.Uboat said:
Right, but what he says is:blackpool72 said:
Not really as Muir has stated he only wants to put in about 10 % of the money.Uboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.
Unless he changes his mind the rest don't have the money.
The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club.
That is clearly not the case.
How many people do you reckon, when Muir is part of the consortium, and he’s apparently richer than Roland?
The ‘post sale strategy’ is multiple investors ‘none of whom are rich enough to buy the club on their own’. I’m pretty sure that is what he’s confusing it with. But if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. 👍
Not that I blame him, I can't see why anyone would want to blow their money on the Madness that is English football.0 - Sponsored links:
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It's famous for its fenland bog snorkelling, in fact I believe that its compulsory for a yellowbelly for at least 3 hours a week.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah, you're right mate. Give that one to me then.SouthLincsAddick said:
The context where it was used to have a go at the Aussies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
In what context?SouthLincsAddick said:
We will have to agree to disagree. I saw a few people quote the papers with the EFL line just a few pages ago. Perhaps you didn't see them.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't think I misread it at all. You said the Aussie bashing is astonishing - I said that, in my opinion, people are just asking question and perfectly in their right to do do.SouthLincsAddick said:
Blimey, still mis-reading my post. Well I tried.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, I know what you meant, but my point was that the only thing I've seen on here regarding anything remotely to do with painting RD in a good light, whether it's believing what him or his lackies say, or commenting on them taking the club in the right direction etc etc, was the post I mentioned from a couple of days ago, and I definitely don't think there's a contingent of people who believe them. After every statement, radio interview, or fan's forum, they seem to be getting pelters from all angles and picked apart within hours.SouthLincsAddick said:
Sorry mate, you've must've misread what I wrote. I said there's a contingent who believe the spin Roland and lackies say is true, especially when it suits their unfounded argument. I said nothing about anyone believing RD is going in right direction.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, completely missed them. I know there was someone post a oneliner on this thread a couple of days ago about RD now going in the right direction 're. Bowyer and a couple of singing, or something, but other than that I get the feeling that the dislike and distrust in RD and everyone associated with him was pretty much 100%SouthLincsAddick said:
Er. yeah.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Is there?SouthLincsAddick said:
We can discuss pros and cons of potential owners for eternity but we as fans have no say in who buys the club and only limited say in how a club is run. Bring on the Bundesliga model where the clubs members still hold a majority of voting rights.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.
It’s the weekend mate, don’t fret about it.
We agree to disagree, let it go.
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How many in the Aussie consortium?East_Stand_Loopy said:
Interesting point about Gonville Bromhead. (The character played by Michael Caine.) The only reason his platoon was left at Rourke's Drift (or KwaJimu as the Zulus called it) was that Bromhead was practically deaf. It wasn't considered that sensible that an officer of the line be involved in battle using an ear trumpet...happyvalley said:1879, Battle of Rorke's Drift, Michael Caine's finest hour.
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Er, you mean to me, Obviously more going on than sitting in mis-reading other people’s posts.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah, you're right mate. Give that one to me then.SouthLincsAddick said:
The context where it was used to have a go at the Aussies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
In what context?SouthLincsAddick said:
We will have to agree to disagree. I saw a few people quote the papers with the EFL line just a few pages ago. Perhaps you didn't see them.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't think I misread it at all. You said the Aussie bashing is astonishing - I said that, in my opinion, people are just asking question and perfectly in their right to do do.SouthLincsAddick said:
Blimey, still mis-reading my post. Well I tried.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, I know what you meant, but my point was that the only thing I've seen on here regarding anything remotely to do with painting RD in a good light, whether it's believing what him or his lackies say, or commenting on them taking the club in the right direction etc etc, was the post I mentioned from a couple of days ago, and I definitely don't think there's a contingent of people who believe them. After every statement, radio interview, or fan's forum, they seem to be getting pelters from all angles and picked apart within hours.SouthLincsAddick said:
Sorry mate, you've must've misread what I wrote. I said there's a contingent who believe the spin Roland and lackies say is true, especially when it suits their unfounded argument. I said nothing about anyone believing RD is going in right direction.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, completely missed them. I know there was someone post a oneliner on this thread a couple of days ago about RD now going in the right direction 're. Bowyer and a couple of singing, or something, but other than that I get the feeling that the dislike and distrust in RD and everyone associated with him was pretty much 100%SouthLincsAddick said:
Er. yeah.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Is there?SouthLincsAddick said:
We can discuss pros and cons of potential owners for eternity but we as fans have no say in who buys the club and only limited say in how a club is run. Bring on the Bundesliga model where the clubs members still hold a majority of voting rights.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.
It’s the weekend mate, don’t fret about it.
We agree to disagree, let it go.
What goes down in South Lincolnshire on a weekend then?1 -
There's a certain club in Surrey who after the ex tango man had financial problems had 4 business men arrive and buy the club.
Steve Parrish was one and the other 3 were fans who have such a low profile that a Palace pal of mine (manager of a bookies) said most fans don't know their names.
This gave stability to a club that had financial problems under both the flamboyant Simon Jordan( used to be shite now he's alright) and Mark Goldberg.
The Americans Harris and Blitzer then got involved and each own 18% as does the chairman Steve Parish. The 3 low profile fans Gosling, Browett and Long own 12% between them.
This is 66% the rest may be a company from Delaware who haven't named anyone.
This was the state of play a year ago, but I know Harris is a restless character who wanted to move Palace away from run down Thornton Heath to Guildford or somewhere else even nearer to their fan base and their true rivals Brighton. Don't think that Susanna Reid's (lucky bastard) ex lover agreed.
It pains me to say this but you have to look at clubs that are in the Premier and how they manage to run their side. Steve Parrish is a smooth operator ( maybe too smooth) but boy do we need someone with Charlton in their heart and passion now to steer Cafc through these choppy waters.
Foreign investors with a Charlton type Parrish with a 20% investment would at least give as a fighting chance.
This is death by a thousand cuts under Duchatelet.
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"It’s the weekend mate, don’t fret about it."SouthLincsAddick said:
Er, you mean to me, Obviously more going on than sitting in mis-reading other people’s posts.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Yeah, you're right mate. Give that one to me then.SouthLincsAddick said:
The context where it was used to have a go at the Aussies.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
In what context?SouthLincsAddick said:
We will have to agree to disagree. I saw a few people quote the papers with the EFL line just a few pages ago. Perhaps you didn't see them.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I don't think I misread it at all. You said the Aussie bashing is astonishing - I said that, in my opinion, people are just asking question and perfectly in their right to do do.SouthLincsAddick said:
Blimey, still mis-reading my post. Well I tried.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, I know what you meant, but my point was that the only thing I've seen on here regarding anything remotely to do with painting RD in a good light, whether it's believing what him or his lackies say, or commenting on them taking the club in the right direction etc etc, was the post I mentioned from a couple of days ago, and I definitely don't think there's a contingent of people who believe them. After every statement, radio interview, or fan's forum, they seem to be getting pelters from all angles and picked apart within hours.SouthLincsAddick said:
Sorry mate, you've must've misread what I wrote. I said there's a contingent who believe the spin Roland and lackies say is true, especially when it suits their unfounded argument. I said nothing about anyone believing RD is going in right direction.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Sorry mate, completely missed them. I know there was someone post a oneliner on this thread a couple of days ago about RD now going in the right direction 're. Bowyer and a couple of singing, or something, but other than that I get the feeling that the dislike and distrust in RD and everyone associated with him was pretty much 100%SouthLincsAddick said:
Er. yeah.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Is there?SouthLincsAddick said:
We can discuss pros and cons of potential owners for eternity but we as fans have no say in who buys the club and only limited say in how a club is run. Bring on the Bundesliga model where the clubs members still hold a majority of voting rights.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
It's not "Aussie bashing", and what I find astonishing is people not wanting to discuss the pros end cons of any potential new owner, but just being content on the present one going. Especialy after the last two..SouthLincsAddick said:Wow, all this Aussie bashing. Astonishing!
Roland is the problem, as Dalman and every other bid is finding.
As an occasional reader on this forum, the outsider impression is there's a contingent who consistently bash the Aussie bid with sweeping statements based on no evidence what so ever, or taking the word of Roland and his lackies as gospel.
Here's one example. The Cloob has said the Aussie's just need to submit paperwork with the EFL. Some people believe that, some don't (some believe the EFL, some don't).
I don't trust what this regime says.
Then you said that there's a contingent on here who still believe the spin that RD and his lackies come out with and I said that I don't believe there is.
It’s the weekend mate, don’t fret about it.
We agree to disagree, let it go.
What goes down in South Lincolnshire on a weekend then?
Have you got a snorkel then, or do you use a bit of fen reed like James Pond?1 -
Having watched Charlton Women play at Selhurst Park last season, I have to say that I'm amazed that the ground has a safety certificate. Big money needs to be invested there and recent owners don't seem to have it.soapboxsam said:There's a certain club in Surrey who after the ex tango man had financial problems had 4 business men arrive and buy the club.
Steve Parrish was one and the other 3 were fans who have such a low profile that a Palace pal of mine (manager of a bookies) said most fans don't know their names.
This gave stability to a club that had financial problems under both the flamboyant Simon Jordan( used to be shite now he's alright) and Mark Goldberg.
The Americans Harris and Blitzer then got involved and each own 18% as does the chairman Steve Parish. The 3 low profile fans Gosling, Browett and Long own 12% between them.
This is 66% the rest may be a company from Delaware who haven't named anyone.
This was the state of play a year ago, but I know Harris is a restless character who wanted to move Palace away from run down Thornton Heath to Guildford or somewhere else even nearer to their fan base and their true rivals Brighton. Don't think that Susanna Reid's (lucky bastard) ex lover agreed.
It pains me to say this but you have to look at clubs that are in the Premier and how they manage to run their side. Steve Parrish is a smooth operator ( maybe too smooth) but boy do we need someone with Charlton in their heart and passion now to steer Cafc through these choppy waters.
Foreign investors with a Charlton type Parrish with a 20% investment would at least give as a fighting chance.
This is death by a thousand cuts under Duchatelet.1 -
as afka said - when your floating around in the poolTaxi_Lad said:
since when has Turkey not been dry land? 😜DOUCHER said:
don't get cocky sonny - you've scooped one transfer recently but i'll be back - once i'm back on dry land i'll be back bigger and better than ever - rifling off transfer scoops like an automatic machine gun - my vast network of sources are having some well earned down time ready for a big month. As for the takeover - where's all the rich arabs when u actually need them eh?...Redhenry said:
I thought it was Bexley Boy from the other site....DOUCHER said:have never named any of my sources0 -
From what i had heard, the problem was always around the lack of evidence / belief that they had the finances to run the club - how that fits with our current owner not giving 2 shits about us / the club i don't know so maybe it was bollox. In my opinion, Dalman is our big hope and if i had to put my house on one scenario it would be this - rd will own the club at the start of the season. If it goes well on the pitch, he will probably still own it at the end of the season. At some point there will be a blip / inability to keep over achieving with the budget. That will be when the takeover happens in my opinion (based on no further information since it was confirmed to me that Dalman was definitely in for the club)Stu_of_Kunming said:
It's irrelevant how much money he has, how much money is he willing to invest? Clearly not enough to buy the club outright otherwise losing investors wouldn't have mattered before.JamesSeed said:
And a good afternoon to you too Stu!Stu_of_Kunming said:
You may think that, many people don't.JamesSe%ed said:
I think he’s mixing it up with the post sale model.Uboat said:
Right, but what he says is:blackpool72 said:
Not really as Muir has stated he only wants to put in about 10 % of the money.Uboat said:The bloke says none of the Aussies involved has enough money to buy the club. If Muir is involved then that's obviously wrong and casts doubt on the rest of his post.
Unless he changes his mind the rest don't have the money.
The investment model is multiple shareholders, of which non are independently wealthy enough to purchase the club.
That is clearly not the case.
How many people do you reckon, when Muir is part of the consortium, and he’s apparently richer than Roland?
The ‘post sale strategy’ is multiple investors ‘none of whom are rich enough to buy the club on their own’. I’m pretty sure that is what he’s confusing it with. But if I’m wrong, I’m wrong. 👍
Not that I blame him, I can't see why anyone would want to blow their money on the Madness that is English football.1 -
How many in the Barcelona consortium? 140,000.Addickted said:
How many in the Aussie consortium?East_Stand_Loopy said:
Interesting point about Gonville Bromhead. (The character played by Michael Caine.) The only reason his platoon was left at Rourke's Drift (or KwaJimu as the Zulus called it) was that Bromhead was practically deaf. It wasn't considered that sensible that an officer of the line be involved in battle using an ear trumpet...happyvalley said:1879, Battle of Rorke's Drift, Michael Caine's finest hour.
Thousands of 'em
The FC Barcelona is one of the few clubs in the world to be owned by the club members themselves. Together these members form the governing body of the club and in 2016 there were an estimated 140,000 members.
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