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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.
FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.5 -
One thing I have to remember is the fees werent received at the same time yet just imagine what Bowyer could do with £3m!!1
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It's like most of Roland's actions - a red hot knitting kneedle down ya japseye...Sage said:
Sickening, isn't it. Even know we know we wouldn't have seen any of that money under this regime, it's still beyond a joke for 3 players of that quality, all who in a couple of years I expect to be regulars in the Premier League.ForeverAddickted said:Whatever happens this'll always be Roland's legacy!!... £7.5m for those three is criminal!!1 -
What actual work has lickspittle done this week?I
Is the amount of work done by lickspittle at Charlton similar to the amount of work done by Farage in his role as an MEP?0 -
Think it frustrates me more when you read the comments from the fans of those big clubs whenever they hoover up talentMuttleyCAFC said:The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.
FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.
"Yeah but by coming here he's going to be getting the best coaching and will have a better experience"
More likely no he bloody wont; Liverpool fans especially are trying to big up their production of kids yet Gomez certainly wasnt whilst they're only left with Alexander-Arnold and Sterling... In effect this Harvey Elliott (the lad signing from Fulham) is going the exact same way as Izzy Brown (makes me laugh to see the two young lads that have just left West Brom for Man City and Barcelona as they'll no doubt do the same), he's more than likely going to go from getting a chance to prove himself on the fringes of the Fulham first-team to playing U18 Football once again
So instead of bettering himself and having a great experience its likely his progression will now stall because Liverpool will ultimately prefer to bring in someone proven from abroad that can produce instant results rather than giving Elliott a chance even when he fails a couple of times5 -
If it could be a system that would work properly I'd potentially do away with the club Academy system here in England and have a single Academy ran by the FA (almost like Lilleshall)
Graduating players then get picked up in a Draft like system so Salford City this season would have had first pick; Man City would have had the 92nd pick with said player having to see out a Contract of three or four years at said club before they're able to move on
Its an thought of mine that I know has endless flaws (even I doubt if it would work what with teams able to sign players from abroad too), not to mention is something that Premier League teams alone would never agree too but something has to be done!!2 -
Trouble is @ForeverAddickted the vast majority of clubs rely on bringing through youngsters and being a feeder club to survive. And unless there is a big shake up of wealth distribution within the game, many clubs will go bust. I do agree with you however that something revolutionary needs to be done.4
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So, if today is this week, we can see that means this week has started and that next week hasn't.soapboxsam said:
No ambiguity with today.Chizz said:
It's Thursday today. Is that this week or next week?soapboxsam said:
If you are standing in a queue and a voice shouts out Next, the person at the front of the queue goes to the table not the second in the queue.Chizz said:
Next season starts in July 2020.nth london addick said:
That’s my personal opinion and I really do believe that to be the caseReturn of the SE7 said:
NLA, don't know you but always appreciate your posts, but you have said more than once (I think) that it will be done by the start of the season and I'm hanging on to that.nth london addick said:Addickhead86 said:So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.
I never said close close I said are further along
there is no such thing as close
it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing else
imminent doesn’t exist
C u next Tuesday is wrong,
See you this Tuesday or Tuesday week should be used.
Too much ambiguity on the word next.
Now back to the non sale of Charlton.
Ps. As Chizz is a Pedant.
Can you not see my point ?
This season - 2019/20 - started on 1 July, the first of this season's friendlies have been played and the first qualifying rounds of this season's Champions League have been played.
So, while I hope that the takeover happens as soon as possible, we have to acknowledge that it, sadly, didn't take place before this season started.0 -
I think the magical answer to that (If somehow the clubs did adopt my idea) would be that the whole TV money gets added to a pot and shared equally between all 92 clubsRedChaser said:Trouble is @ForeverAddickted the vast majority of clubs rely on bringing through youngsters and being a feeder club to survive. And unless there is a big shake up of wealth distribution within the game, many clubs will go bust. I do agree with you however that something revolutionary needs to be done.
I'm going to stop ranting about what I hate about Football now though and fly back to reality on my unicorn, might stop off at candy land first though1 -
Unfortunately with Bosman, the elite player program and no enforced ffp clubs will get shafted regardless of the owner.
For ever Aribo there is a Taylor. Sometimes we are the statue, some times the pigeon.6 - Sponsored links:
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Takeover thread not transfers etc.1
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We’re part way through the Irish 2019 season, which is about as relevant to us as the Champions League qualifiers.Chizz said:
So, if today is this week, we can see that means this week has started and that next week hasn't.soapboxsam said:
No ambiguity with today.Chizz said:
It's Thursday today. Is that this week or next week?soapboxsam said:
If you are standing in a queue and a voice shouts out Next, the person at the front of the queue goes to the table not the second in the queue.Chizz said:
Next season starts in July 2020.nth london addick said:
That’s my personal opinion and I really do believe that to be the caseReturn of the SE7 said:
NLA, don't know you but always appreciate your posts, but you have said more than once (I think) that it will be done by the start of the season and I'm hanging on to that.nth london addick said:Addickhead86 said:So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.
I never said close close I said are further along
there is no such thing as close
it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing else
imminent doesn’t exist
C u next Tuesday is wrong,
See you this Tuesday or Tuesday week should be used.
Too much ambiguity on the word next.
Now back to the non sale of Charlton.
Ps. As Chizz is a Pedant.
Can you not see my point ?
This season - 2019/20 - started on 1 July, the first of this season's friendlies have been played and the first qualifying rounds of this season's Champions League have been played.
So, while I hope that the takeover happens as soon as possible, we have to acknowledge that it, sadly, didn't take place before this season started.
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MuttleyCAFC said:The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.
FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.
Jean Marc Bosman was the only player the Bosman ruling didn't really help !
It's a funny old game.
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I’m so cautious now that I’m saying nothing :-)Addickhead86 said:
You are breaking your JS character, you need to be more cautious.nth london addick said:Addickhead86 said:So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.
I never said close close I said are further along
there is no such thing as close
it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing else
imminent doesn’t exist1 -
Still
No
Yawn
Yet
All good in my book0 -
What are you waffling on about?Chizz said:
So, if today is this week, we can see that means this week has started and that next week hasn't.soapboxsam said:
No ambiguity with today.Chizz said:
It's Thursday today. Is that this week or next week?soapboxsam said:
If you are standing in a queue and a voice shouts out Next, the person at the front of the queue goes to the table not the second in the queue.Chizz said:
Next season starts in July 2020.nth london addick said:
That’s my personal opinion and I really do believe that to be the caseReturn of the SE7 said:
NLA, don't know you but always appreciate your posts, but you have said more than once (I think) that it will be done by the start of the season and I'm hanging on to that.nth london addick said:Addickhead86 said:So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.
I never said close close I said are further along
there is no such thing as close
it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing else
imminent doesn’t exist
C u next Tuesday is wrong,
See you this Tuesday or Tuesday week should be used.
Too much ambiguity on the word next.
Now back to the non sale of Charlton.
Ps. As Chizz is a Pedant.
Can you not see my point ?
This season - 2019/20 - started on 1 July, the first of this season's friendlies have been played and the first qualifying rounds of this season's Champions League have been played.
So, while I hope that the takeover happens as soon as possible, we have to acknowledge that it, sadly, didn't take place before this season started.
For clubs not in the early Euro qualifying rounds, their season hasn't started. Pre-season friendlies are not part of the season, they are a warm up for the season.
Our season (our next season) officially starts on 3 August.
Quite clearly if a takeover is done in the next few weeks (don't laugh), then it will have been before the season started.1 -
So, which season did Joe Aribo play for Charlton at Wembley? And which season did he play for Rangers in the Europa League?Scoham said:
We’re part way through the Irish 2019 season, which is about as relevant to us as the Champions League qualifiers.Chizz said:
So, if today is this week, we can see that means this week has started and that next week hasn't.soapboxsam said:
No ambiguity with today.Chizz said:
It's Thursday today. Is that this week or next week?soapboxsam said:
If you are standing in a queue and a voice shouts out Next, the person at the front of the queue goes to the table not the second in the queue.Chizz said:
Next season starts in July 2020.nth london addick said:
That’s my personal opinion and I really do believe that to be the caseReturn of the SE7 said:
NLA, don't know you but always appreciate your posts, but you have said more than once (I think) that it will be done by the start of the season and I'm hanging on to that.nth london addick said:Addickhead86 said:So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.
I never said close close I said are further along
there is no such thing as close
it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing else
imminent doesn’t exist
C u next Tuesday is wrong,
See you this Tuesday or Tuesday week should be used.
Too much ambiguity on the word next.
Now back to the non sale of Charlton.
Ps. As Chizz is a Pedant.
Can you not see my point ?
This season - 2019/20 - started on 1 July, the first of this season's friendlies have been played and the first qualifying rounds of this season's Champions League have been played.
So, while I hope that the takeover happens as soon as possible, we have to acknowledge that it, sadly, didn't take place before this season started.2 -
Wembley in Charlton’s 18/19 season and Europa League in Rangers 19/20 season.Chizz said:
So, which season did Joe Aribo play for Charlton at Wembley? And which season did he play for Rangers in the Europa League?Scoham said:
We’re part way through the Irish 2019 season, which is about as relevant to us as the Champions League qualifiers.Chizz said:
So, if today is this week, we can see that means this week has started and that next week hasn't.soapboxsam said:
No ambiguity with today.Chizz said:
It's Thursday today. Is that this week or next week?soapboxsam said:
If you are standing in a queue and a voice shouts out Next, the person at the front of the queue goes to the table not the second in the queue.Chizz said:
Next season starts in July 2020.nth london addick said:
That’s my personal opinion and I really do believe that to be the caseReturn of the SE7 said:
NLA, don't know you but always appreciate your posts, but you have said more than once (I think) that it will be done by the start of the season and I'm hanging on to that.nth london addick said:Addickhead86 said:So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.
I never said close close I said are further along
there is no such thing as close
it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing else
imminent doesn’t exist
C u next Tuesday is wrong,
See you this Tuesday or Tuesday week should be used.
Too much ambiguity on the word next.
Now back to the non sale of Charlton.
Ps. As Chizz is a Pedant.
Can you not see my point ?
This season - 2019/20 - started on 1 July, the first of this season's friendlies have been played and the first qualifying rounds of this season's Champions League have been played.
So, while I hope that the takeover happens as soon as possible, we have to acknowledge that it, sadly, didn't take place before this season started.
Each club has their own season which starts with their first competitive game, and ends with their last competitive game. Not first or last ever either, but I’m sure you know that.1 -
Given the abuse revelations at various clubs it would have legs. Another justification would be standardisation of training and skill-sets and being children would have a ladder of qualification including education. It would need regional centres of exellence though.ForeverAddickted said:If it could be a system that would work properly I'd potentially do away with the club Academy system here in England and have a single Academy ran by the FA (almost like Lilleshall)
Graduating players then get picked up in a Draft like system so Salford City this season would have had first pick; Man City would have had the 92nd pick with said player having to see out a Contract of three or four years at said club before they're able to move on
Its an thought of mine that I know has endless flaws (even I doubt if it would work what with teams able to sign players from abroad too), not to mention is something that Premier League teams alone would never agree too but something has to be done!!2 -
Didn't they Rob sterling from Fulham as well?ForeverAddickted said:
Think it frustrates me more when you read the comments from the fans of those big clubs whenever they hoover up talentMuttleyCAFC said:The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.
FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.
"Yeah but by coming here he's going to be getting the best coaching and will have a better experience"
More likely no he bloody wont; Liverpool fans especially are trying to big up their production of kids yet Gomez certainly wasnt whilst they're only left with Alexander-Arnold and Sterling... In effect this Harvey Elliott (the lad signing from Fulham) is going the exact same way as Izzy Brown (makes me laugh to see the two young lads that have just left West Brom for Man City and Barcelona as they'll no doubt do the same), he's more than likely going to go from getting a chance to prove himself on the fringes of the Fulham first-team to playing U18 Football once again
So instead of bettering himself and having a great experience its likely his progression will now stall because Liverpool will ultimately prefer to bring in someone proven from abroad that can produce instant results rather than giving Elliott a chance even when he fails a couple of times0 - Sponsored links:
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QPR I thinkjac52 said:
Didn't they Rob sterling from Fulham as well?ForeverAddickted said:
Think it frustrates me more when you read the comments from the fans of those big clubs whenever they hoover up talentMuttleyCAFC said:The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.
FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.
"Yeah but by coming here he's going to be getting the best coaching and will have a better experience"
More likely no he bloody wont; Liverpool fans especially are trying to big up their production of kids yet Gomez certainly wasnt whilst they're only left with Alexander-Arnold and Sterling... In effect this Harvey Elliott (the lad signing from Fulham) is going the exact same way as Izzy Brown (makes me laugh to see the two young lads that have just left West Brom for Man City and Barcelona as they'll no doubt do the same), he's more than likely going to go from getting a chance to prove himself on the fringes of the Fulham first-team to playing U18 Football once again
So instead of bettering himself and having a great experience its likely his progression will now stall because Liverpool will ultimately prefer to bring in someone proven from abroad that can produce instant results rather than giving Elliott a chance even when he fails a couple of times0 -
QPRjac52 said:
Didn't they Rob sterling from Fulham as well?ForeverAddickted said:
Think it frustrates me more when you read the comments from the fans of those big clubs whenever they hoover up talentMuttleyCAFC said:The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.
FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.
"Yeah but by coming here he's going to be getting the best coaching and will have a better experience"
More likely no he bloody wont; Liverpool fans especially are trying to big up their production of kids yet Gomez certainly wasnt whilst they're only left with Alexander-Arnold and Sterling... In effect this Harvey Elliott (the lad signing from Fulham) is going the exact same way as Izzy Brown (makes me laugh to see the two young lads that have just left West Brom for Man City and Barcelona as they'll no doubt do the same), he's more than likely going to go from getting a chance to prove himself on the fringes of the Fulham first-team to playing U18 Football once again
So instead of bettering himself and having a great experience its likely his progression will now stall because Liverpool will ultimately prefer to bring in someone proven from abroad that can produce instant results rather than giving Elliott a chance even when he fails a couple of times
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1894, Blackpool Tower is opened.0
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I still can't believe I thought the club was about to get sold...as soon as Meire left.
Premature hope x200008 -
Congratulations @blackpool72happyvalley said:1894, Blackpool Tower is opened.2 -
A mighty impressive tower it is tooChizz said:
Congratulations @blackpool72happyvalley said:1894, Blackpool Tower is opened.3 -
After it was destroyed by rampaging Charlton fans @blackpool72happyvalley said:1972, Blackpool Tower is re-opened.0 -
Then came Chesterfield._MrDick said:
After it was destroyed by rampaging Charlton fans @blackpool72happyvalley said:1972, Blackpool Tower is re-opened.1 -
Stop picking on me.1
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