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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    jac52 said:
    The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.Β 

    FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.Β 
    Think it frustrates me more when you read the comments from the fans of those big clubs whenever they hoover up talent

    "Yeah but by coming here he's going to be getting the best coaching and will have a better experience"

    More likely no he bloody wont; Liverpool fans especially are trying to big up their production of kids yet Gomez certainly wasnt whilst they're only left with Alexander-Arnold and Sterling... In effect this Harvey Elliott (the lad signing from Fulham) is going the exact same way as Izzy Brown (makes me laugh to see the two young lads that have just left West Brom for Man City and Barcelona as they'll no doubt do the same), he's more than likely going to go from getting a chance to prove himself on the fringes of the Fulham first-team to playing U18 Football once again

    So instead of bettering himself and having a great experience its likely his progression will now stall because Liverpool will ultimately prefer to bring in someone proven from abroad that can produce instant results rather than giving Elliott a chance even when he fails a couple of times
    Didn't they Rob sterling from Fulham as well?
    QPR
    Liverpool poached him from QPR
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,144
    Brunello said:
    I know nothing!
    This is not the Brexit thread!Β 

    You're welcome :-)
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Chizz said:
    Scoham said:
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    So NLA says that the Aussies are close, but JamesSeed is doubtful that anything at all will happen. As a lover of symmetry, this satisfies me.


    I never said close close I said are further alongΒ 

    there is no such thing as closeΒ 

    it’s done or it isn’t done that’s it nothing elseΒ 


    imminent Β doesn’t existΒ 
    NLA, don't know you but always appreciate your posts, but you have said more than once (I think) that it will be done by the start of the season and I'm hanging on to that.Β 
    That’s my personal opinion and I really do believe that to be the caseΒ 
    Next season starts in July 2020.
    If you are standing in a queue and a voice shouts out Next, the person at the front of the queue goes to the table not the second in the queue.

    C u next Tuesday is wrong,
    See you this Tuesday or Tuesday week should be used.

    Too much ambiguity on the word next.

    Now back to the non sale of Charlton.

    Ps. As Chizz is a Pedant.Β 

    It's Thursday today. Is that this week or next week?Β 
    No ambiguity with today.
    Can you not see my point ?
    So, if today is this week, we can see that means this week has started and that next week hasn't.Β 

    This season - 2019/20 - started on 1 July, the first of this season's friendlies have been played and the first qualifying rounds of this season's Champions League have been played.Β Β 

    So, while I hope that the takeover happens as soon as possible, we have to acknowledge that it, sadly, didn't take place before this season started.Β 
    We’re part way through the Irish 2019 season, which is about as relevant to us as the Champions League qualifiers.
    So, which season did Joe Aribo play for Charlton at Wembley? And which season did he play for Rangers in the Europa League?Β 

    I always liked the Four Seasons
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.Β 

    FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.Β 
    Remember that footballers are people!

    Everyone should be able to change their job without permission or interference from their former employers once their contract is finished!

    The idea that a university or any former employer could demand compensation if you move to a higher paid job is frightening!
  • RedChaser said:
    Trouble is @ForeverAddickted the vast majority of clubs rely on bringing through youngsters and being a feeder club to survive. And unless there is a big shake up of wealth distribution within the game, many clubs will go bust. I do agree with you however that something revolutionary needs to be done.
    Go bust or close their academies as they just become an unsustainable cost (like Brentford did). Β Only once this has happened will the EFL realise that EPPP has a negative not positive affect.
  • The problem with making money out of football is that the balance of power is wrong. Bosman has a lot to answer for and football hasn't improved as a result. The sad fact is, Bosman couldn't have happened with the old system in England and we had a better system then than we do now. Also, the worrying trend for big clubs to get players other clubs have developed on the cheap. I see Liverpool are in the process of nicking a Fulham kid at the moment. Chelsea have recieved a ban. The Spanish giants are disgusting. I liken it to one of us nicking money off a beggar.Β 

    FFP was a solution, but you try to enforce it and you get threatened with legal action.Β 
    Remember that footballers are people!

    Everyone should be able to change their job without permission or interference from their former employers once their contract is finished!

    The idea that a university or any former employer could demand compensation if you move to a higher paid job is frightening!
    Absolutely and the Bosman ruling was a good thing IMO. Β 

    That said Universities can demand you pay for their education and it has long been my view football should go down that route. Β 10% of future football player salary over Β£200k pa goes back to the club you came through at unless you remain with them. Β That way those that dont make it dont pay; those that are relatively lowly paid for a short career dont pay; those that remain loyal dont pay. Β Those that go on to be a real success do. Β Does not seem unfair to me and would keep academies viable.
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  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    bump
    not sure you need to bump a thread with nearly 1900 pages and a last comment 45 minutes ago :wink:
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    I believe I have witnessed a yawn
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1895, Henry Irving Knighted.
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    1892, a tortoise called Timothy is brought to Powderham Castle in Devon where he lived to 2004.
    Wow 2004, that's a very old tortoise.... πŸ˜€Β 
    You might want to Google Jonathan the tortoise.
  • TEL said:
    Brunello said:
    Why the sudden love in for NLA?
    We love you too mate....
    We effing don’tΒ 
  • kodfish
    kodfish Posts: 631
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  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    From the 'other' site: "Unlikely to see any movement on this over the summer by all accounts.Β  Revisit mid way through season is looking the most likely outcome." angeldust.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    cafc-west said:
    From the 'other' site: "Unlikely to see any movement on this over the summer by all accounts.Β  Revisit mid way through season is looking the most likely outcome." angeldust.
    Should be completed by 6pm tonight then.Β 
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    It’s about to happen!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,168
    cafc-west said:
    From the 'other' site: "Unlikely to see any movement on this over the summer by all accounts.Β  Revisit mid way through season is looking the most likely outcome." angeldust.
    Wonderful. At which point the cycle will continue until one of Roland or, preferably, me is dead.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited July 2019
    If I were a prospective buyer given the talent we have let walk out the door this window, I would definitely hold off til mid-season to see if we are safely above the drop zone before buying at a Championship valuation at this point. Why risk it with a team that the previous owner has basically chosen? Makes no sense. Better to wait then buy before the winter transfer window and upgrade as needed.Β 
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  • RedRyan
    RedRyan Posts: 911
    If I were a prospective buyer given the talent we have let walk out the door this window, I would definitely hold off til mid-season to see if we are safely above the drop zone before buying at a Championship valuation at this point. Why risk it with a team that the previous owner has basically chosen? Makes no sense. Better to wait then buy before the winter transfer window and upgrade as needed.Β 
    But why not just wait until the summer and see what division we're in, when you can have more impact eg with transfers during the close season? Then simply drag it out for a few months again, and decide to wait for Christmas again. Repeat ad infinitum.
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    cafc-west said:
    From the 'other' site: "Unlikely to see any movement on this over the summer by all accounts.Β  Revisit mid way through season is looking the most likely outcome." angeldust.
    Wonderful. At which point the cycle will continue until one of Roland or, preferably, me is dead.
    I'd take anything like that with a pinch of salt
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    RedRyan said:
    If I were a prospective buyer given the talent we have let walk out the door this window, I would definitely hold off til mid-season to see if we are safely above the drop zone before buying at a Championship valuation at this point. Why risk it with a team that the previous owner has basically chosen? Makes no sense. Better to wait then buy before the winter transfer window and upgrade as needed.Β 
    But why not just wait until the summer and see what division we're in, when you can have more impact eg with transfers during the close season? Then simply drag it out for a few months again, and decide to wait for Christmas again. Repeat ad infinitum.
    No. Better still, the summer after that...
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    Tick Tock Roland, price people will pay only getting lower from here on in. Idiot.Β 
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,017
    edited July 2019
    Just gone on to see wot the deal is with the new shorts sponsor (don't follow twitter & this is the msg showing..."is it happening"...

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    prob not...!!!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    If only
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Can expect another Roland statement soon then
  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,914
    If Roland can’t or won’t sell the club on the back of the Wembley victory, it does make you question this intention to actually sell the club.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    Just gone on to see wot the deal is with the new shorts sponsor (don't follow twitter & this is the msg showing..."is it happening"...

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    prob not...!!!
    Twitter down too.Β  Could be one hell of a statement...!
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Just gone on to see wot the deal is with the new shorts sponsor (don't follow twitter & this is the msg showing..."is it happening"...

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    prob not...!!!
    Roland probably announcing that Jason Pearce has left the club.
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