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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Only twelve hours to the start of meltdown Monday.3
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I'm with @MuttleyCAFC on this. I think RD does want to sell, but only at his price which (as someone posted esrlier) includes all the debt, sell on's for players & money when we reach the Premier League. When prospective buyers finally hear / see this then they quite rightly walk away.
I'm the meantime he thinks that he can get away with the bare bones of a squad & that as long as CAFC fulfil their fixtures (by not going bust) then he hasn't fallen foul of the EFL.
The EFL are as much to blame in this respect. They should have stringent rules in place around having a CEO, CFO & a proper management team....instead of letting a club flounder rudderless with the chief scout doing all the player acquisitions..!! Also that a club should replace leaving players on a 1 for 1 basis (by the start of August) & no club should be allowed to offload players for a fee without putting a certain % back into the club for new recruits. Draconian maybe but atm there doesnt appear to be anything against an owner selling all the best players, pocketing the money & making his manager bring in far lesser players for no fees & on a lesser wage than the outgoing players.
As to what we can do about it. Not everyone can make a trip to Belgium & by far the biggest gathering of fans is on a match day. I'm all for ramping up the protests & as I've said before the only thing that worries the EFL is non fulfilment of a fixture....and that is not done by throwing a few plastic pigs but by sabotaging the pitch and/or the ground. I dont want to go into what I would do as this is not the forum for that. But fox hunting was not banned by protesters throwing plastic pigs at huntsman..!!!!
Finally. The one person we can get at is Richard Murray. He needs to be brought to account. We all know that RD & to a lesser extent LdT dont give a toss.....but RM does. He wants to keep his seat at the table & is doing his level best to stay there. Time for him to feel the heat too.8 -
What is upsetting is that if we are not taken over, which we won't be unless Duchatelet is persuaded to be realistic, we will almost certainly lose Bowyer - maybe even before the end of the season. If we do crap he will go or be pushed, and if we do well, he will walk. Throwing crisps and pigs on the pitch worked well for publicity but the ones who are going to push this cnut over the edge are probably small in number and willing to really push the boundaries of what is acceptable.11
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I have to disagree there. His actions suggest somebody who is not the full ticket. That is not hard to work out after hearing him speak, reading is weird perspective on things and his stupidity at not biting the first person to offer him £30 million's hand off!Redskin said:
He is neither of these things. He is simply inept at running football clubs.MuttleyCAFC said:His decision not to push to boat out and get Aribo signed up when he could has cost him millions. Note, him and not us! He is thick and mad - there can be no doubt about that and we need to do more to expose the fact. It really doesn't matter to us because he would have kept whatever we got for Aribo. I am sad because it is a poor football move for the lad, but I am not sad Duchatelet has cost himself loads of money. He is a figure of ridicule and fun. It is like listening to the village idiot when he speaks and it may never be repeated anywhere in the world that St Truiden's Village Idiot is probably its richest citizen!1 -
The problem with rules from the EFL that you suggest would cause more problems than they would solve imo. If you take out players wages, transfer fees and central payments, the rest is relatively small sums and volume. Any other business wouldn't have a ceo, coo, cfo etc etc for a business that size, they would probably have an owner chairman.golfaddick said:I'm with @MuttleyCAFC on this. I think RD does want to sell, but only at his price which (as someone posted esrlier) includes all the debt, sell on's for players & money when we reach the Premier League. When prospective buyers finally hear / see this then they quite rightly walk away.
I'm the meantime he thinks that he can get away with the bare bones of a squad & that as long as CAFC fulfil their fixtures (by not going bust) then he hasn't fallen foul of the EFL.
The EFL are as much to blame in this respect. They should have stringent rules in place around having a CEO, CFO & a proper management team....instead of letting a club flounder rudderless with the chief scout doing all the player acquisitions..!! Also that a club should replace leaving players on a 1 for 1 basis (by the start of August) & no club should be allowed to offload players for a fee without putting a certain % back into the club for new recruits. Draconian maybe but atm there 7doesnt appear to be anything against an owner selling all the best players, pocketing the money & making his manager bring in far lesser players for no fees & on a lesser wage than the outgoing players.
As to what we can do about it. Not everyone can make a trip to Belgium & by far the biggest gathering of fans is on a match day. I'm all for ramping up the protests & as I've said before the only thing that worries the EFL is non fulfilment of a fixture....and that is not done by throwing a few plastic pigs but by sabotaging the pitch and/or the ground. I dont want to go into what I would do as this is not the forum for that. But fox hunting was not banned by protesters throwing plastic pigs at huntsman..!!!!
Finally. The one person we can get at is Richard Murray. He needs to be brought to account. We all know that RD & to a lesser extent LdT dont give a toss.....but RM does. He wants to keep his seat at the table & is doing his level best to stay there. Time for him to feel the heat too.
1 in 1 out wouldn't work either as how do clubs relagated from the premier league reduce the size of their squad for example? As for having to invest a % received back in, how many times have the likes of Charlton been literally saved by flogging a player?
The EFL can solve this by enforcing proper ffs and sustainability rules so clubs aren't at the mercy of billionaires who loose interest. At present the efl can't even enforce its own fit and proper test because they risk clubs going to the wall if they don't let it through.0 -
Are we in agreement that the complete silence on the takeover front is because the parties have all realised he completely crackers and not serious about selling or is there some deal being put together low key?! @nth london addick 🙏🏻?1
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Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.2
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1936, Charlton finish 2nd in Division 2, just 1 point behind Man. Utd.10
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There's not been "complete silence". We know we have "Meltdown Monday" to look forward to.BR7_addick said:Are we in agreement that the complete silence on the takeover front is because the parties have all realised he completely crackers and not serious about selling or is there some deal being put together low key?! @nth london addick 🙏🏻?
That will be exciting.2 - Sponsored links:
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Sounds like it could be a crucial 10 days coming up.JamesSeed said:Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.22 -
Richard Madely better up his offer then0
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I’m asking that Paul geeza on twitter now.JamesSeed said:Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.0 -
Oh for the love of god!JamesSeed said:Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.11 -
Every day is crucial 😊FishCostaFortune said:
Sounds like it could be a crucial 10 days coming up.JamesSeed said:Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.0 -
Every day is like a Sunday on this thread. Every day is silent and grey.JamesSeed said:
Every day is crucial 😊FishCostaFortune said:
Sounds like it could be a crucial 10 days coming up.JamesSeed said:Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.12 -
The only news that should interest us is anything that gives us an indication that Duchatelet has decided to be realistic in terms of the price. Without this, it really doesn't matter if Dalman is having another go at it or anybody else for that matter. It will still fail in the same way!2
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been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense1
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Because it’s Roland’s debt to sort, not muir’sDOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense10 - Sponsored links:
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i know that but if that is the stumbling block i'm guessing it was a year ago - anyway, the aussies in my opinion are a fabrication with regards to being a serious potential ownerTodds_right_hook said:
Because it’s Roland’s debt to sort, not muir’sDOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense4 -
As rhe debt is not live until we reach the Prem it could be argued it's no ones debt right now, let it roll over, theres a decent chance it will never be due.Todds_right_hook said:
Because it’s Roland’s debt to sort, not muir’sDOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense5 -
How many more “crucial 10 days coming up” scenarios can we take?FishCostaFortune said:
Sounds like it could be a crucial 10 days coming up.JamesSeed said:Anyone else heard that Dalman has made a fresh move? Don’t know any details.1 -
Who told you?DOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense1 -
lets just say it came from the clubChizz said:
Who told you?DOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense0 -
No, let's just say who.DOUCHER said:
lets just say it came from the clubChizz said:
Who told you?DOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense10 -
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Lady on the chip counterChizz said:
No, let's just say who.DOUCHER said:
lets just say it came from the clubChizz said:
Who told you?DOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense1 -
Colin?Chizz said:
No, let's just say who.DOUCHER said:
lets just say it came from the clubChizz said:
Who told you?DOUCHER said:been told that muir is now talking to the ex directors - nla may be able to verify that and if he does i'll believe it - if he doesn't, i'll treat it as another load of old tosh - why on earth didn't he start talking to them a year ago??? absolute nonsense1
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