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Sorry, I'm probably partially to blame for all this. Last season I regularly bought tickets for cheaper seats & moved blocks (East) or a £10 u18 ticket. Got rumbled towards the end if the season & so have now bought a season ticket. Club also asked for ID for Golfie Jnr's ST as he's had an U18 one for a number of years & so I emailed them a copy of his passport showing that he turns 16 in a couple of weeks. However, with the new fashion look of not shaving he could probably pass for 17 or 18 and waiting now for him to get stopped at the turnstiles.0
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So when/if Roland sells the club will everybody will pay the correct price for their tickets?3
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If you can get away with it, why would you not buy the cheaper tickets? Since we have had the scanners i have rarely brought an adult ticket.....3
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Yes. I never thought of doing it under previous ownership. Can’t stop going but it’s my rather weak version of ‘not a penny more’, ‘not quite as much as he would have got from me in different circumstances’clive said:So when/if Roland sells the club will everybody will pay the correct price for their tickets?0 -
An email to everyone on the database would have helped.oohaahmortimer said:I think it's right that people should have the right ticket but when it's a change of policy that leads to arseyness officialdom I think it's best to communicate to your customers what is required of them
Better training for the Stewards.3 -
I've got to disagree with 50% of that mate, he has been slashing the squad and asset stripping since long before anyone suggested boycottingAFKABartram said:
That’s fair enough if people want to do that, just gives you less voice along with those boycotting to complain when the budget for players is low or someone is sold to reduce losses.palarsehater said:giving Roland as little money as possible - good
Selling players to generate money for squad building is fair enough and unless you are Real Madrid that happens everywhere. Didnt he say recently that it costs him money to have people in the ground as it is too?
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false and proven false argument.AFKABartram said:
That’s fair enough if people want to do that, just gives you less voice along with those boycotting to complain when the budget for players is low or someone is sold to reduce losses if you are purposely starving the club core income (yes I know central income now dwarfs ticket income).palarsehater said:giving Roland as little money as possible - good
The regime has already dismissed the need or importance of fan income.
It didn't extend the VIP scheme as "we don't need it with a rich owner" and ticket income is "only" 25% of income."
Then we get promoted and the budget is not increased to reflect the increased central income leaving us with the smallest budget in the division.
That is not the fans, that is Duchatelet and it's poor coming from you to suggest that fans who boycott or pay less should have "less voice".
Let's restart the CL shirt sponsorship then, which you recently said wouldn't happen under Duchatelet, as we fan can put a few grand into the player budget. Why are you starving Bowyer of money that way but then say others who hold back £10 or £20 have "less voice"?16 -
If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?3 -
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is7 -
Some people just love to spoil others' day (or evening) if they have a little bit of power and deliberately or otherwise eschew a sensible approach. I call it Fluorescent jacket syndrome. Normally rational human beings turn into a parody of Adolf Hitler once given one. A fluorescent sash can have the same effect in my experience although the symptoms tend to be milder in general.4
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But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is0 -
What do you expect the club to do when they read on this forum that people are boasting that they are using children's tickets?19
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I’d be surprised if there isn’t something there already that does say you need to bring ID (how explicit it is is a different story!). But isn’t it common sense that if I’m getting a discount because I fall into a certain category that I might need to show some proof that I qualify for that category?oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
I just booked a flight, an alert didn’t pop up to remind me to bring my passport to the airport (it’s probably in the small print somewhere) but I’m not going to assume that means I don’t need it.0 -
The same reason thieves get caught because they can't keep their traps shut when in pubs and clubs.Starinnaddick said:What do you expect the club to do when they read on this forum that people are boasting that they are using children's tickets?
The kudos of looking big among their peer group always gets the better of some folk.
Hush your mouths.7 -
The issue here is with people who have a legit ticket not being allowed in because they can't prove their age.Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
What sort of ID is a 16 year old supposed to carry.
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Time stamped video of their conceptionBaldybonce said:
The issue here is with people who have a legit ticket not being allowed in because they can't prove their age.Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
What sort of ID is a 16 year old supposed to carry.9 -
Sorry, wrong. The issue here is people defrauding the club, and the club trying to clamp down on it.Baldybonce said:
The issue here is with people who have a legit ticket not being allowed in because they can't prove their age.Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
What sort of ID is a 16 year old supposed to carry.
Yes, your son has got the wrong end of it, but in the future he can take his passport, or some sort of ID to prove his age.
Take any complaints with those who think being a crook is in any way cool, or clever...1 -
Its comments like this that alert the club, you put it on here and all it takes is one club official to see it and think hang on we need to do something about this.RedManS said:If you can get away with it, why would you not buy the cheaper tickets? Since we have had the scanners i have rarely brought an adult ticket.....
At the end of the day rules are there for a reason, if you are under 18 by an under 18 ticket if you are an adult buy an adult ticket1 -
What you waffling on about .Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
we are talking about punters buying the correct ticket , as they have done for years and then out of the blue being required to produce ID and refused entry without ID they didn’t know they required .
when a big warning on concession tickets would alert all concession users that ID of some sort will be required
It’s not rocket science , it’s common courtesy to the customer and would stop the agg people get .
anyone bunking in paying cheap takes that punt and they get no sympathy4 -
A lot of kids have a bus pass for school, but it is a good point.Baldybonce said:
The issue here is with people who have a legit ticket not being allowed in because they can't prove their age.Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
What sort of ID is a 16 year old supposed to carry.
That said, I saw a man stopped and he was at least 30.
My son is 17 and wouldn’t be challenged buying a pint, so they do have a problem.0 -
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Well I’ve had to use a passport for flights for years , they haven’t just started asking for them .se9addick said:
I’d be surprised if there isn’t something there already that does say you need to bring ID (how explicit it is is a different story!). But isn’t it common sense that if I’m getting a discount because I fall into a certain category that I might need to show some proof that I qualify for that category?oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
I just booked a flight, an alert didn’t pop up to remind me to bring my passport to the airport (it’s probably in the small print somewhere) but I’m not going to assume that means I don’t need it.
buying a ticket at football my nephew and kids have never been asked for ID at the 100s of games they’ve gone between them .
so a bit of a difference3 -
Probably a fake one if they fancy a pint.Baldybonce said:
The issue here is with people who have a legit ticket not being allowed in because they can't prove their age.Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
What sort of ID is a 16 year old supposed to carry.6 -
Why should decent, law abiding people be inconvenienced because of the activities of criminal scum?East_Stand_Loopy said:
Sorry, wrong. The issue here is people defrauding the club, and the club trying to clamp down on it.Baldybonce said:
The issue here is with people who have a legit ticket not being allowed in because they can't prove their age.Halix said:
But they do know they are falsely buying a cheaper ticket by lying about their age and that at some stage the club may wish this practice to stop, and enforce checks.oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
What sort of ID is a 16 year old supposed to carry.
Yes, your son has got the wrong end of it, but in the future he can take his passport, or some sort of ID to prove his age.
Take any complaints with those who think being a crook is in any way cool, or clever...
That's a big problem of society today in my opinion. Broad brush approach inconveniencing everyone rather than rooting out and punishing the scum.0 -
I am eligible for the over 65 price .. trouble is I am soooooo young looking and handsome ((:>)6
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Just because it’s never been asked for doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to. I know it’s personal to you as your nephew got caught up in it but I don’t really think it’s that out of order to ask someone with an concession ticket to show some proof that they qualify.oohaahmortimer said:
Well I’ve had to use a passport for flights for years , they haven’t just started asking for them .se9addick said:
I’d be surprised if there isn’t something there already that does say you need to bring ID (how explicit it is is a different story!). But isn’t it common sense that if I’m getting a discount because I fall into a certain category that I might need to show some proof that I qualify for that category?oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
I just booked a flight, an alert didn’t pop up to remind me to bring my passport to the airport (it’s probably in the small print somewhere) but I’m not going to assume that means I don’t need it.
buying a ticket at football my nephew and kids have never been asked for ID at the 100s of games they’ve gone between them .
so a bit of a difference
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A friend of mine always buys child tickets.
He pretends it's an anti Roland protest, but we all know he's just a skin flint.
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That's just a messageboard thing.Starinnaddick said:What do you expect the club to do when they read on this forum that people are boasting that they are using children's tickets?2 -
It's interesting. I kind of feel that you can either stay home if you want to make your protest by not spending money with the club, but if you are watching the games, do the right thing and pay the right price. Yet I buy food and drink outside, so that's probably hypocritical. Oh well, another unsolved mystery. Back to work.palarsehater said:giving Roland as little money as possible - good0 -
se9addick said:
Just because it’s never been asked for doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to. I know it’s personal to you as your nephew got caught up in it but I don’t really think it’s that out of order to ask someone with an concession ticket to show some proof that they qualify.oohaahmortimer said:
Well I’ve had to use a passport for flights for years , they haven’t just started asking for them .se9addick said:
I’d be surprised if there isn’t something there already that does say you need to bring ID (how explicit it is is a different story!). But isn’t it common sense that if I’m getting a discount because I fall into a certain category that I might need to show some proof that I qualify for that category?oohaahmortimer said:
When people buy a match ticket on an ad hoc basis they don't scour the club site for info on what is required , where was this warning , I never received itsam3110 said:If you want to buy a ticket that requires you to be in a certain age bracket, expect to be questioned if you don't look that age/are borderline on that age.
They put out a warning before the first game of the season, what more could they have done?
I think a clear alert when you buy a concession ticket online as to the requirements of ID being needed would make sense and that is what more can be done
apologies if it already is
I just booked a flight, an alert didn’t pop up to remind me to bring my passport to the airport (it’s probably in the small print somewhere) but I’m not going to assume that means I don’t need it.
buying a ticket at football my nephew and kids have never been asked for ID at the 100s of games they’ve gone between them .
so a bit of a difference
I agree they should definitely ask for it to act as a deterrent to those jibbing in
BUT common courtesy and sense says warn the law abiding punters, who have done nothing wrong and have never been asked for ID before that ID will be asked for for the first time ever , do that by advertising an alert or a big message when people buy online
And continues to do so that any new punters that come along are not inconvenienced .
but the divs haven’t got the brain power to work that out .
It really isn’t rocket science and the club acted without thought to their customers !1 -
Maybe the CEO can look into the communications issues.8
