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England Cricket Team Summer 2019 -ICC World Cup and Ashes etc

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  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    still going to be interesting on selections for winter tours bearing in mind we have 3. Few experiments in NZ (Sibley. Crawley, Stone maybe), strongest side possible for SA and extra spin options for SL. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    Weather saved the Aussies in 2nd test. 

    We we have a moral 3-2 victory. 
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    kentaddick said:
    Longest time between a hat trick ball? 
    A hat trick can be taken across 2 innings, but must be taken in the same match.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    Love this.




  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    edited September 2019
    Slightly disappointed not to get to see us wrap it up tomorrow. But a great win.

    Full refund and a bunch of us all got the day off work so gonna have a net and then drinks. Been a great summer of cricket.

    I've always been a massive cricket badger but this summer has just absorbed me to another level. I am already planning a trip to watch the next ashes down under.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    carly burn said:
    Love this.




    That's a great photo, good to see the teams mixing like that. England winning today, but Australia retaining the Ashes meant that both teams had reasons to be satisfied, whereas if Australia had won 3-1 then the conversation might have been more awkward!
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    That's how it should be. Play hard on the pitch. Of it. Share a few beers. 
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    Very, very strange series indeed - can't remember another one quite like it.

    I think the 'composite' side demonstrates how weird it was....

    Burns (Good - but not spectacular)
    Denly (Only really came good in the last Test)
    Lambushagne (Only played when Smith got knocked out)
    Smith (No comment required)
    Root (Very average series...not a single ton)
    Stokes (No comment required)
    Wade (Wkt) (Outbatted Paine, Bairstow and Buttler with two tons)
    Archer (May not have played if Anderson and Wood had been fit)
    Cummins (Best bowler)
    Hazlewood (Dropped from 1st Test)
    Lyon (Bowled poorly after 1st Test...nowhere near his best)

    All up, only Smith, Cummins and Hazlewood for the Aussies and Stokes, Broad and Archer for us can be said to have had really good series.

    People talked about great bowling and average pitches but I just thought that the batting on both sides - except for Smith and Stokes - was very poor indeed.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    carly burn said:
    Love this.




    https://twitter.com/ooccricket_/status/1173500063613689856?s=21


  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    MrOneLung said:
    Weather saved the Aussies in 2nd test. 

    We we have a moral 3-2 victory. 
    Which is, of course, very true.
    A strange series, in that overall, IMO, OZ were the slightly better of the teams, if only because of Smith and Cummins, for the first 3 days of 1st Test England were on top but lost, second test was all England but weather intervened,third was Oz all the way until the Stokes show, fourth always Oz, and the fifth always England . so a draw was probably the fairest result in the end.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    A weird but fascinating series between 2 very uneven sides.

    Wade for example scored 2 centuries yet got no 50s whereas Root and Denly got 4 and 3 50s respectively but no centuries! Cummins had 29 wickets without a 5fer. Harris and Warner averaged less than 10, which is slightly worse than Bancroft who was dropped!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Gower & Botham gone from Sky commentary team .. C5 lose the test highlights, next season BBC will have test highlights, two England 20/20 games live and ten 100 matches live .. Isa Guha will be the main BBC TV cricket presenter .. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    bbc getting the rights makes sense, plenty of TMS talent that can go between the two - they do anyway with boycott and vaughan etc. But this will be easier I guess.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Vaughan, 'talent'? Good player but I'm pretty sure he's the worst English commentator with a regular gig
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    Lincsaddick said:
    Gower & Botham gone from Sky commentary team .. C5 lose the test highlights, next season BBC will have test highlights, two England 20/20 games live and ten 100 matches live .. Isa Guha will be the main BBC TV cricket presenter .. 
    I'm proper sad I'm not going to be able to listen to Botham and especially Gower on Sky.  They've always been insightful yet humorous.  Sky cricket wont be the same without them two. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    JohnBoyUK said:
    Lincsaddick said:
    Gower & Botham gone from Sky commentary team .. C5 lose the test highlights, next season BBC will have test highlights, two England 20/20 games live and ten 100 matches live .. Isa Guha will be the main BBC TV cricket presenter .. 
    I'm proper sad I'm not going to be able to listen to Botham and especially Gower on Sky.  They've always been insightful yet humorous.  Sky cricket wont be the same without them two. 
    I don't know, always found gower a bit droney and uninspiring. Botham didn't seem right this series, tripping over his words, clearing his throat, replying "morning warney" when warne had just said "afternoon beefy" after lunch. Also think botham is one that couldn't understand how/why people couldn't just play well like he could. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    I think it's good news Gower and Botham have gone early.  Too many cricket commentators dragged out their careers well beyond their sell-by date.  Tony Lewis. Fred Trueman.  Jack Bannister...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    Botham seems happy to go, whereas Gower is clearly devastated. He's been everywhere talking about it
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Chizz said:
    I think it's good news Gower and Botham have gone early.  Too many cricket commentators dragged out their careers well beyond their sell-by date.  Tony Lewis. Fred Trueman.  Jack Bannister...

    Don't agree on Fred Trueman one of my all time heroes
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Johnnysummers5 said:
    Chizz said:
    I think it's good news Gower and Botham have gone early.  Too many cricket commentators dragged out their careers well beyond their sell-by date.  Tony Lewis. Fred Trueman.  Jack Bannister...

    Don't agree on Fred Trueman one of my all time heroes
    Totally understand that.  As a cricketer he was without peer.  But, by the end of his commentating career, he'd become a parody of a gruff, grumpy Yorkshireman for whom anything of the present day was never as good as in his day.  

    I am sure he was a lovely man; he was a monumental cricketer, but I think his commentating career was a few years longer than it should have been. 
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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,225
    Should have stuck to Indoor League.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    edited September 2019
    Chizz said:
    Johnnysummers5 said:
    Chizz said:
    I think it's good news Gower and Botham have gone early.  Too many cricket commentators dragged out their careers well beyond their sell-by date.  Tony Lewis. Fred Trueman.  Jack Bannister...

    Don't agree on Fred Trueman one of my all time heroes
    Totally understand that.  As a cricketer he was without peer.  But, by the end of his commentating career, he'd become a parody of a gruff, grumpy Yorkshireman for whom anything of the present day was never as good as in his day.  

    I am sure he was a lovely man; he was a monumental cricketer, but I think his commentating career was a few years longer than it should have been. 
    Yes, a bit like Bumble now, Fred seemed to almost become a parody of himself

    To give credit to Boycott, while outside cricket he's the grumpy Yorkshireman, when commentating he doesn't just spend his spend moaning about how defensive technique was much better in his time, but also is positive about great attacking shots as well.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    killerandflash said:
    Botham seems happy to go, whereas Gower is clearly devastated. He's been everywhere talking about it
    Gower will probably miss the money from what was a well paid gig .. Botham has appeared bored and off message for a few seasons .. he has improved for this last series, perhaps he wanted to go out with an intact reputation or was looking for a last ditch reprieve .. my beef is that the BBC has not sacked the creep that is Sir G Boycott .. I know that he is an 'English institution' to many, to me he is a disgusting bullshitting crafty old codger .. and that is on his good days   
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Chizz said:
    I think it's good news Gower and Botham have gone early.  Too many cricket commentators dragged out their careers well beyond their sell-by date.  Tony Lewis. Fred Trueman.  Jack Bannister...
    Gower will turn up somewhere though.  TMS maybe. 
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Glad Gower and Botham have gone - the worst two commentators on Sky - i also dont get what Holding brings to the table, never have done. Is he gone too?.
    I am assuming Ward is taking over the top table? Very good,insightful commentator. Maybe they will be looking to bring Key up to the top too, however, his up-his-own-arse stance really puts me off.
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    So, who is the new coach going to be?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    I hope there'll be a one day coach and a test coach. Should start treating both teams as completely independent from one another. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    So, who is the new coach going to be?
    Mickey Arthur
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,299
    Chizz said:
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    So, who is the new coach going to be?
    Mickey Arthur
    I hope not. I never trust a bloke with 2 first names
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    I think Rob Key will be moved up for Sky test matches.

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