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Charlton Athletic v Huddersfield Town | Tues 10 December | Post-match views
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Why wasn't Pratley subbed though? I don't get it. Morgan came on in that role against Boro and looked decent, it seemed obvious to bring him on.ForeverAddickted said:Get Williams and Cullen back (eventually) along with Aneke | Field | Oztumer and we'll be fine, its just whether it can happen
It'll allow Bowyer to rotate and it'll make life hell for the opposing midfield
Huddersfield's had a field day today because Doughty and Gallagher are still inexperienced whilst Pratley wasnt going to trouble them because he's protecting the Defence
Not to mention Darren needs a bloody break!!
You've got to question who out of him and Field would be starting in these three games if you think the answer is the former every time then your an idiot0 -
Gallagher started with three mistakes in a row, must've been his worst home game. Think it highlights the importance of Cullen whose ability to mop up and distribute the ball allows others that little bit of extra time to play.3
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You have got to be kidding!Dazzler21 said:Definitely not as bad as people are making out, first half we were both shite, second half we were marginally better than them until that bastard of a goal.
Phillips, Solly, Sarr, Pearce, Doughty, Leko and Vennings all looked good tonight.
Take the positives and move on.0 -
Aneke? Are you sure? He's offered absolutely nothing so far and if he is the answer to our problems, God help us.ForeverAddickted said:Get Williams and Cullen back (eventually) along with Aneke | Field | Oztumer and we'll be fine, its just whether it can happen
It'll allow Bowyer to rotate and it'll make life hell for the opposing midfield
Huddersfield's had a field day today because Doughty and Gallagher are still inexperienced whilst Pratley wasnt going to trouble them because he's protecting the Defence
Not to mention Darren needs a bloody break!!
You've got to question who out of him and Field would be starting in these three games if you think the answer is the former every time then your an idiot4 -
Who do you take Pratley off for though apart from OshilajaTalal said:
Why wasn't Pratley subbed though? I don't get it. Morgan came on in that role against Boro and looked decent, it seemed obvious to bring him on.ForeverAddickted said:Get Williams and Cullen back (eventually) along with Aneke | Field | Oztumer and we'll be fine, its just whether it can happen
It'll allow Bowyer to rotate and it'll make life hell for the opposing midfield
Huddersfield's had a field day today because Doughty and Gallagher are still inexperienced whilst Pratley wasnt going to trouble them because he's protecting the Defence
Not to mention Darren needs a bloody break!!
You've got to question who out of him and Field would be starting in these three games if you think the answer is the former every time then your an idiot
I still think Bowyer would be loath to have all four defenders on as would only need one or two injured for there to be a crisis in that department
We're already having to play three centre-backs and I bet you its a system Bowyer doesnt want to play
But what choice do we have when our genuine midfield options are:
Pratley | Gallagher | Doughty | Morgan | Vennings2 -
Yes but we are also missing their back ups - Kayal and Ozzy, and their back ups - Field and Chucks and their back ups - Lapslie and JFC.SELR_addicks said:We're missing essentially 2 first team players. (Cullen and Williams).
That will not turn this form around. We need big changes throughout the team.
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I've just seen that the Match Thread is sinking down even quicker than Charlton.
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That was terrible. Didn’t have a shot on target. Came for the point and got nothing.0
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I just said Morgan.ForeverAddickted said:
Who do you take Pratley off for though apart from OshilajaTalal said:
Why wasn't Pratley subbed though? I don't get it. Morgan came on in that role against Boro and looked decent, it seemed obvious to bring him on.ForeverAddickted said:Get Williams and Cullen back (eventually) along with Aneke | Field | Oztumer and we'll be fine, its just whether it can happen
It'll allow Bowyer to rotate and it'll make life hell for the opposing midfield
Huddersfield's had a field day today because Doughty and Gallagher are still inexperienced whilst Pratley wasnt going to trouble them because he's protecting the Defence
Not to mention Darren needs a bloody break!!
You've got to question who out of him and Field would be starting in these three games if you think the answer is the former every time then your an idiot
I still think Bowyer would be loath to have all four defenders on as would only need one or two injured for there to be a crisis in that department
We're already having to play three centre-backs and I bet you its a system Bowyer doesnt want to play
But what choice do we have when our genuine midfield options are:
Pratley | Gallagher | Doughty | Morgan | Vennings0 -
So you'd prefer to have our current five Midfield options instead of Aneke then?Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Aneke? Are you sure? He's offered absolutely nothing so far and if he is the answer to our problems, God help us.ForeverAddickted said:Get Williams and Cullen back (eventually) along with Aneke | Field | Oztumer and we'll be fine, its just whether it can happen
It'll allow Bowyer to rotate and it'll make life hell for the opposing midfield
Huddersfield's had a field day today because Doughty and Gallagher are still inexperienced whilst Pratley wasnt going to trouble them because he's protecting the Defence
Not to mention Darren needs a bloody break!!
You've got to question who out of him and Field would be starting in these three games if you think the answer is the former every time then your an idiot0 -
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That was awful tonight,absolute trash.
I dont know why Doughty was subbed for Vennings who no disrespect but looks totally out of his depth;I think Oshilaja or Morgan would have been far more positive. Taylor should have been put on 10 minutes earlier,we needed him so much and he gave the place and the team a huge lift when he came on.
As much as I love Solly,I really think that he shouldnt start;I would have put Oshilaja at Right back.
dont know what has happened to players like Gallagher and Pratley,playing well below their capability.
No creativity in the centre of the park,we badly miss Josh Cullen so if there is any cash in January then thats a MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to find a replacement for him if there is anyone???
Also the amount of space their players had to run into in the final third was frightening.
Something doesnt seem right at the moment and I hope Bowyer and Jacko can come up with some solutions as we just dont look like the team that started this season and will end up in a horrible relegation fight if there are not some significant changes. Gutted.
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On this showing roland has pulled off deal of the century
60mill for a league 1 team with a team full of loans and youth academy
Titanic had more chance of staying up2 -
Very poor first half probably the worst for a long time. Weather played a part but the team formation looks wrong. I thought a higher defensive line was needed because we have no midfield and couldn't keep the the ball. Second half saw a better effort with hard tackles going in but little up front. Taylor will and did make a difference. Didn't agree with Vennings coming on. It looks like we are being found out and need other options. Just hope extra squad players can make the difference.2
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Easy for the opposition thoughRaith_C_Chattonell said:Gallagher started with three mistakes in a row, must've been his worst home game. Think it highlights the importance of Cullen whose ability to mop up and distribute the ball allows others that little bit of extra time to play.
If we set up with Cullen | Gallagher | Williams then the opposition have to use three players to mark all three of them
Take two of them out and straight away the opposition can double up on Gallagher2 -
2 points out of a possible 27, featuring 4 goals conceded in added time.
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That's because it's notjohn3 said:That was awful tonight,absolute trash.
I dont know why Doughty was subbed for Vennings who no disrespect but looks totally out of his depth;I think Oshilaja or Morgan would have been far more positive. Taylor should have been put on 10 minutes earlier,we needed him so much and he gave the place and the team a huge lift when he came on.
As much as I love Solly,I really think that he shouldnt start;I would have put Oshilaja at Right back.
dont know what has happened to players like Gallagher and Pratley,playing well below their capability.
No creativity in the centre of the park,we badly miss Josh Cullen so if there is any cash in January then thats a MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to find a replacement for him if there is anyone???
Also the amount of space their players had to run into in the final third was frightening.
Something doesnt seem right at the moment and I hope Bowyer and Jacko can come up with some solutions as we just dont look like the team that started this season and will end up in a horrible relegation fight if there are not some significant changes. Gutted.
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Bonne has turned to s**t very quickly.
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The next two weeks will be critical.0
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True but when you're experienced players like Pearce and Sarr are playing so badly it doesn't help - also not that I want to excuse the Rat but we do have 8 midfielders out injured (Cullen, Williams, Forster-Caskey, Field, Kayak, Oztumer, Aneke and Lapslie)we actually have depth in the squad in midfield but rotten luck with injuries.CH4RLTON said:Anyone who is moaning need eff we are playing with kids who are nowhere near ready, that's nobodies fault but Roland's and he's going, let's just ride this out.1 -
Yup. That’s the game I saw. Tonight is the first time I have got angry with them this season. Even against Wendies when we were down to the bare bones, the effort and commitment was first class. But tonight was a shambles. I don’t care how many injuries or how bad the weather, we were given the runaround by a shite team on our own patch. One shot in 70 minutes is simply unacceptable. Leko is either knackered or wasn’t trying tonight. On several occasions he walked behind a defender when we had a throw in. We are trying to play a system with wing backs when we haven’t got any and I think Albie must have shagged Bowyer’s sister not to get on tonight. I’m not buying all this “when everyone’s back we’ll be fine” crap. We are only really missing Jonny and Cullen now although Field would be a bonus. I’ve given up on the Brighton wasters. Momentum is a wondrous thing. When you lose it it is real hard to get back and we are in a spiral. Tonight against a woeful Huddersfield with the return of the Prodigal Taylor, this was the night when we halted the slide and got a little stability back. We blew it and blew it badly. Reading @Weegie Addicks excellent earlier post, I can only imagine how horrendous Saturday at Boro was if it was worse than that shit show tonight.Croydon said:Not good enough.
Couldn't even muster a shot on target against a shite Huddersfield team who, if we're being honest, could have beaten us 4-0 if they had any quality in the final third. Pearce is either angling for a career in the WWE or is purposely defending like a fucking idiot, Sarr has gone back to passing without looking and the rest of the team aren't performing much better. What Morgan has done to piss off Bowyer we can only guess but Vennings was the wrong choice. Weak, no touch and no ability to look up, he gave the ball away pretty much every time he had it.
Can blame injuries all you like but individuals are playing like fucking dickheads and we have absolutely no idea what we're doing going forward. What do we do in training with throw-ins? Because no one seems to have a fucking clue about moving for the ball.
It was shit from start to finish, could see the goal coming from a mile off. Serious questions need to be asked about the desire from some of them out there tonight.20 -
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up_the_valley said:
That's because it's not.john3 said:That was awful tonight,absolute trash.
I dont know why Doughty was subbed for Vennings who no disrespect but looks totally out of his depth;I think Oshilaja or Morgan would have been far more positive. Taylor should have been put on 10 minutes earlier,we needed him so much and he gave the place and the team a huge lift when he came on.
As much as I love Solly,I really think that he shouldnt start;I would have put Oshilaja at Right back.
dont know what has happened to players like Gallagher and Pratley,playing well below their capability.
No creativity in the centre of the park,we badly miss Josh Cullen so if there is any cash in January then thats a MINIMUM REQUIREMENT to find a replacement for him if there is anyone???
Also the amount of space their players had to run into in the final third was frightening.
Something doesnt seem right at the moment and I hope Bowyer and Jacko can come up with some solutions as we just dont look like the team that started this season and will end up in a horrible relegation fight if there are not some significant changes. Gutted.
Pratley,Sarr,Gallagher,Pearce,Purrington,Bonne,Solly,Phillips,Lockyer,Leko??????0 -
Gutted.
A much improved performance, not quite up to the standard if early season. The energy and hard work was there second half but not the skill or the finishing. Was it offside. Flag went up when Sarr nodded it on.
Solly played well then messed up at the end for the goal.
Alfie did well I thought. Surprised that Vennings came on before Morgan.
The new kid, Kyle Naylor I think his name was, did OK. Not sure he's fit but could be a good back up to Bonne and Leko when he is.
Not sure where we go from here. Cullen is still a huge miss as is Williams.
Noticeably, despite some boos at the end the crowd hasn't turned on the team or manager. Yet.
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Likewise I presumed the boos at the end were for the officials again after the disallowed goal rather than the performance?Henry Irving said:Gutted.
A much improved performance, not quite up to the standard if early season. The energy and hard work was there second half but not the skill or the finishing. Was it offside. Flag went up when Sarr nodded it on.
Solly played well then messed up at the end for the goal.
Alfie did well I thought. Surprised that Vennings came on before Morgan.
The new kid, Kyle Naylor I think his name was, did OK. Not sure he's fit but could be a good back up to Bonne and Leko when he is.
Not sure where we go from here. Cullen is still a huge miss as is Williams.
Noticeably, despite some boos at the end the crowd hasn't turned on the team or manager. Yet.
Unless of course we're both wrong?1 -
Although I have faith that Bowyer can turn this slump around, that tonight was dire from both sides. I found myself envious of my beloved wife sitting in a warm room in front of the telly.3
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Fair assessment.Henry Irving said:Gutted.
A much improved performance, not quite up to the standard if early season. The energy and hard work was there second half but not the skill or the finishing. Was it offside. Flag went up when Sarr nodded it on.
Solly played well then messed up at the end for the goal.
Alfie did well I thought. Surprised that Vennings came on before Morgan.
The new kid, Kyle Naylor I think his name was, did OK. Not sure he's fit but could be a good back up to Bonne and Leko when he is.
Not sure where we go from here. Cullen is still a huge miss as is Williams.
Noticeably, despite some boos at the end the crowd hasn't turned on the team or manager. Yet.Where do we go is the big question and the one that is worrying me. Bowyer looks like he has no answers.PS - that’s an observation and I’m not calling for him to go. He deserves January and at least until March/April to get us out of trouble.0 -
Bowyer could do with forgetting VAR.0
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The smattering of boos were for the performance, but most people scarpered to get the train home0
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The remaining players who haven’t been on the treatment table have simply been overplayed. They look tired physically and mentally hence not closing down and making sloppy passes/clearances.Gallagher and Leko are young players and need to be rested occasionally. Our early form was down to pressing the opposition and playing high tempo attacking football when in possession. That’s all been eroded by the injuries. We still performed well up until the last few games where confidence has drained so much that first thought is nearly always to pass backwards.
turning this around ain’t gonna be easy19 -
