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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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Lose Lockyer or Pearce and we are in serious trouble. Not beyond the realms of possibility considering the amount of games they've played and our luck.cafcfan1990 said:
Good post and I agree 100%. The concern on face value is what plug Kean gaps? We are not lacking a half decent defender, we are lacking midfield numbers and a quality CB. But he could surprise us again, hopefully he comes eager to get his career back on track.bobmunro said:
You don't build a squad to challenge for promotion in the January window - it is to plug gaps. There are no nuggets available in January.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?
We will not be promoted this season but we could go down - priority one is survival.
We survive and then the test will come in the summer to answer the questions about how serious the new owners are to maximise their investment. You do not spend £30-40-50 whatever million to buy a club and commit £15 million to getting a Cat 1 academy just to tread water in the Championship.
I'd say a CB is as much a priority as anywhere else1 -
cafcfan1990 said:Bizarre one as he seems versatile defensive cover. We need quality over quantity at the back.If he was a midfielder I would get it but as he’s a defender I find it odd. It’s also a concern he didn’t get a game last year. However I will judge him on how he does for us and will back Gallen for the timebeing.bobmunro said:
You don't build a squad to challenge for promotion in the January window - it is to plug gaps. There are no nuggets available in January.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?
We will not be promoted this season but we could go down - priority one is survival.
We survive and then the test will come in the summer to answer the questions about how serious the new owners are to maximise their investment. You do not spend £30-40-50 whatever million to buy a club and commit £15 million to getting a Cat 1 academy just to tread water in the Championship.
I accept that. First we must make sure we don't go down. We must invest enough to ensure thaat. However Scruffle suggests that in the Summer we may still be shopping in the bargain basement etc etc. Now If that proves to be true (which i hope/and don't think is correct), then my question is more than valid.
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Everything is pure speculation, let's juts enjoy now and see how January pans out before worrying about the summer.Melrose said:cafcfan1990 said:Bizarre one as he seems versatile defensive cover. We need quality over quantity at the back.If he was a midfielder I would get it but as he’s a defender I find it odd. It’s also a concern he didn’t get a game last year. However I will judge him on how he does for us and will back Gallen for the timebeing.bobmunro said:
You don't build a squad to challenge for promotion in the January window - it is to plug gaps. There are no nuggets available in January.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?
We will not be promoted this season but we could go down - priority one is survival.
We survive and then the test will come in the summer to answer the questions about how serious the new owners are to maximise their investment. You do not spend £30-40-50 whatever million to buy a club and commit £15 million to getting a Cat 1 academy just to tread water in the Championship.
I accept that. First we must make sure we don't go down. We must invest enough to ensure thaat. However Scruffle suggests that in the Summer we may still be shopping in the bargain basement etc etc. Now If that proves to be true (which i hope/and don't think is correct), then my question is more than valid.1 -
He can play at the base of the diamond. We haven’t been able to play that formation which is bowyers favoured. Maybe he is seen as a bielik type player who can then step back into a 3 man centre defence if neededcafcfan1990 said:
Good post and I agree 100%. The concern on face value is what plug Kean gaps? We are not lacking a half decent defender, we are lacking midfield numbers and a quality CB. But he could surprise us again, hopefully he comes eager to get his career back on track.bobmunro said:
You don't build a squad to challenge for promotion in the January window - it is to plug gaps. There are no nuggets available in January.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?
We will not be promoted this season but we could go down - priority one is survival.
We survive and then the test will come in the summer to answer the questions about how serious the new owners are to maximise their investment. You do not spend £30-40-50 whatever million to buy a club and commit £15 million to getting a Cat 1 academy just to tread water in the Championship.6 -
Not that worried Shine. It's not me that's chucked £50 mil into the clubshine166 said:
Everything is pure speculation, let's juts enjoy now and see how January pans out before worrying about the summer.Melrose said:cafcfan1990 said:Bizarre one as he seems versatile defensive cover. We need quality over quantity at the back.If he was a midfielder I would get it but as he’s a defender I find it odd. It’s also a concern he didn’t get a game last year. However I will judge him on how he does for us and will back Gallen for the timebeing.bobmunro said:
You don't build a squad to challenge for promotion in the January window - it is to plug gaps. There are no nuggets available in January.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?
We will not be promoted this season but we could go down - priority one is survival.
We survive and then the test will come in the summer to answer the questions about how serious the new owners are to maximise their investment. You do not spend £30-40-50 whatever million to buy a club and commit £15 million to getting a Cat 1 academy just to tread water in the Championship.
I accept that. First we must make sure we don't go down. We must invest enough to ensure thaat. However Scruffle suggests that in the Summer we may still be shopping in the bargain basement etc etc. Now If that proves to be true (which i hope/and don't think is correct), then my question is more than valid.
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There are nuggets to be had in January. Ask whoever signs Lyle Taylor what they think. I do agree though that the only thing important is getting players in to ensure survival. Said it before but I really don’t think ensuring our Championship status will be quite as straightforward as some think.8
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This window isn't really going to be about chucking money around for the sake of it. If we have a decent budget then we're hardly going to announce it to the world.
No nothing of Kean, Morrison was slated by a Wednesday fans before he signed hopefully Kean can be just as good2 -
Really don't want to be downbeat about all this and, yes, we have to be patient to see what we end up with at the end of the window BUT...
...I'm not getting excited by Gonads or this Bryan character. I would've thought with a bit of dough behind us we could go and get a solid, experienced centre back. We might still do that if this guy has been signed as a left back i guess.
Gonads is OK but i hope we're not relying on him to solve our problems. As a squad player he sounds great. As a replacement for Taylor he doesn't.
That's just my personal opinion at the moment but i'm mature enough to see how things pan out before i panic too much.
I'm sure we won't be let down.0 -
Our season will be determined by the quality of these signings imo. It will take time for the injured players to get back to their best. The law of averages is that some will break down again. ESI are talking the talk. Let's see what happens, but as others have said, I'm also not blown away by any of the rumoured players so far. Hope to be wrong
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They scanned his thigh, so no hiding place there.ShootersHillGuru said:I think Taylor and his agent decided long ago that he was moving on. His injury was no doubt genuine but since coming back he has perhaps understandably not pushed himself and his thigh strain confirms to me anyway that he is protecting himself. I suspect he has had a gentleman’s agreement somewhere for some time. He’s never put down football roots so he is consistent in that anyway.
The real question is who we replace him with. Younger and from lower divisions would be a risk given our precarious League position but strikers don’t come cheap do they. We will find out a lot about ESI over the next few weeks.0 -
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Because that's what the assets are worth, not the actually football club. I dont necessarily think it's a bad thing at present with transfer fees. Think it was wenger to first predict the end of transfer fees and other than mega 'statement signings' we will see less and less actual fees paid.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?1 -
We'll be buying players 30 minutes before the deadline instead of 30 seconds.Lincsaddick said:
no news is good news lol .. the longer it goes on without signings, the better quality player we SHOULD be signing .. that's my hope anyway .. we will seeMelrose said:
Lincs, you're right of course. Don't know why I keep getting my hopes up. Really should have learnt by nowLincsaddick said:
you know that 99.9% of the 'rumours' are guesswork allied to a bit of wishful thinking and player list pin sticking ((:>) .. and that includes all our self proclaimed 'experts'Melrose said:The calibre and qualitiy of the players we are RUMOURED to be linked with are getting worse and worse. What happened to Vydra and Curtis?0 -
How many appearances did Loic Nego or Polish Pete make for us? Don't really remember people complaining that they should have played more.carly burn said:
What footballing genius makes an assumption on a player after seeing him play twice?PopIcon said:
Very odd thing to say, not sure what relevance his age is.carly burn said:
He's 23 and played twice FFS!PopIcon said:Blades mate said Bryan is by far their worst player and i quote "we've got Leon Clarke".
How olds your mate? 12
Anyway, my friend Hal is a footballing genius, if he said Bryan is their worst player then I believe him.
Besides there is a reason he's not near the first team, but for the life of me, I cannot think what that reason would be.
When all is said and done, Leicester fans were not keen on Yann, just as Wednesday fans were not keen on Morrison and we all know what happened next...
A non footballing genius. That's who
How many times did those boys get an outing? Yet, we'd already made our minds up......
How old are you, 12?0 -
like takeovers .. we do love a bitta brinksmanship ((:>)ElfsborgAddick said:
We'll be buying players 30 minutes before the deadline instead of 30 seconds.Lincsaddick said:
no news is good news lol .. the longer it goes on without signings, the better quality player we SHOULD be signing .. that's my hope anyway .. we will seeMelrose said:
Lincs, you're right of course. Don't know why I keep getting my hopes up. Really should have learnt by nowLincsaddick said:
you know that 99.9% of the 'rumours' are guesswork allied to a bit of wishful thinking and player list pin sticking ((:>) .. and that includes all our self proclaimed 'experts'Melrose said:The calibre and qualitiy of the players we are RUMOURED to be linked with are getting worse and worse. What happened to Vydra and Curtis?
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I knew Thuram was shite whilst watching him during the warm up.carly burn said:
What footballing genius makes an assumption on a player after seeing him play twice?PopIcon said:
Very odd thing to say, not sure what relevance his age is.carly burn said:
He's 23 and played twice FFS!PopIcon said:Blades mate said Bryan is by far their worst player and i quote "we've got Leon Clarke".
How olds your mate? 12
Anyway, my friend Hal is a footballing genius, if he said Bryan is their worst player then I believe him.
Besides there is a reason he's not near the first team, but for the life of me, I cannot think what that reason would be.
When all is said and done, Leicester fans were not keen on Yann, just as Wednesday fans were not keen on Morrison and we all know what happened next...
A non footballing genius. That's who
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Anil Cock was shi t
Rod Fanny had promise1 -
So much negativity here.
Gallen and Bowyer haven’t let us down yet.
Let’s judge this player, if he is coming at all when we’ve seen him play.
Don’t see much mileage in the Peterborough links tbh.
Their chairman said not to get all speculative about transfers the other day when he announced that he was meeting Southall.
Summer time there may be some mileage in rumours, but I reckon Southall was probably getting advice for the future!
Let’s stay positive about these rumours and the season as a whole going forwards.
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I know of Kean Bryan from his time at Oldham and the kid was very good a level headed young man and an outstanding footballer28
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It would’ve been unrealistic to think they’d come in and start spending 10s of millions like some other teams in this league, but I think a lot of us hoped/expected to start competing for real proven championship talent rather than filling up on bottom of the barrel castaways and loans like we have done so far. Maybe things will pick up as we go through the window and I trust that Gallen has some players in mind but there’s been nothing inspiring so far.0
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“Rome was built in a day”
Some Charlton lifers, 2020.18 -
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Agree on Lockyer, definitely not on Pearce. IMO he's our weakest CB.carly burn said:
Lose Lockyer or Pearce and we are in serious trouble. Not beyond the realms of possibility considering the amount of games they've played and our luck.cafcfan1990 said:
Good post and I agree 100%. The concern on face value is what plug Kean gaps? We are not lacking a half decent defender, we are lacking midfield numbers and a quality CB. But he could surprise us again, hopefully he comes eager to get his career back on track.bobmunro said:
You don't build a squad to challenge for promotion in the January window - it is to plug gaps. There are no nuggets available in January.Melrose said:scruffle said:We're just going to get a few bodies in to sure up the ship and hopefully get us safe, just, this season. I still think ppl will be disappointed even in the summer though. Early indications we'll still be shopping for out of contract / free transfers. Hopefully a step above our previous frees but free transfers none the less.
why then have ESI spent a bund,e on the club, if that's the casse?
We will not be promoted this season but we could go down - priority one is survival.
We survive and then the test will come in the summer to answer the questions about how serious the new owners are to maximise their investment. You do not spend £30-40-50 whatever million to buy a club and commit £15 million to getting a Cat 1 academy just to tread water in the Championship.
I'd say a CB is as much a priority as anywhere else
If you read my post, I did say we lack a quality CB. But Kean is a cheap signing, I would have signed a CB but it would have been a decent experienced one to partner Lockyer.2 -
Was it Chris Wilder that signed Kean Bryan for Sheffield Utd ? If it was then he’s a pretty good manager who must have seen something about him.5
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I agree, Oshilija deserves a chance alongside Lockyer. If Kean turns out well, then fair enough. I was just hoping if we signed a CB it would be better than someone who couldn't get an appearance last year in this division.CharltonByBlood said:
To be fair, injuries or not we need someone to partner Lockyer. With Sarr inconsistent and Pearce, in my opinion not good enough for this division we leak far too many goals.cafcfan1990 said:Bizarre one as he seems versatile defensive cover. We need quality over quantity at the back.If he was a midfielder I would get it but as he’s a defender I find it odd. It’s also a concern he didn’t get a game last year. However I will judge him on how he does for us and will back Gallen for the timebeing.
Hopefully this one is the answer, no problems with signing a CBwhen there clearly is a problem at the back
Like I said though, I will give the lad a chance and hope he does better than expected.0 -
We have only signed one player so far so I don’t understand?cafc_harry said:It would’ve been unrealistic to think they’d come in and start spending 10s of millions like some other teams in this league, but I think a lot of us hoped/expected to start competing for real proven championship talent rather than filling up on bottom of the barrel castaways and loans like we have done so far. Maybe things will pick up as we go through the window and I trust that Gallen has some players in mind but there’s been nothing inspiring so far.1 -
So.....what's happened to that mysterious centre half who was captain of his club & was from London (born in, not playing for a club in). Permanent move being signed this week we were told by all those itk.0
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Fixed it for you.BR7_addick said:“Rome wasn’t built in a day”
Some Charlton lifers, 2020.0 -
In the immortal words of E Blackadder, there was only one thing wrong with that cunning plan - it was bollocks.golfaddick said:So.....what's happened to that mysterious centre half who was captain of his club & was from London (born in, not playing for a club in). Permanent move being signed this week we were told by all those itk.10 -
Of the names that have come up so far, like I said, maybe it’ll pick up as we go on.Redrobo said:
We have only signed one player so far so I don’t understand?cafc_harry said:It would’ve been unrealistic to think they’d come in and start spending 10s of millions like some other teams in this league, but I think a lot of us hoped/expected to start competing for real proven championship talent rather than filling up on bottom of the barrel castaways and loans like we have done so far. Maybe things will pick up as we go through the window and I trust that Gallen has some players in mind but there’s been nothing inspiring so far.0 -
Rather have Steven FletcherElfsborgAddick said:
Past his sell by date now plus I am sure he is on a big wedge.Showmetheway2gohome said:Wednesday interested in Taylor what about swap deal for Jordan Rhoades0 -
I think it wii. The Blackpool striker Gonads looks OK and a squad should have 4 IMO. Bonne, Hemed so we still need a replacement for Taylor if he goes. That deal will take longer as it will probably have to wait until the bigger clubs have finished fishing.cafc_harry said:
Of the names that have come up so far, like I said, maybe it’ll pick up as we go on.Redrobo said:
We have only signed one player so far so I don’t understand?cafc_harry said:It would’ve been unrealistic to think they’d come in and start spending 10s of millions like some other teams in this league, but I think a lot of us hoped/expected to start competing for real proven championship talent rather than filling up on bottom of the barrel castaways and loans like we have done so far. Maybe things will pick up as we go through the window and I trust that Gallen has some players in mind but there’s been nothing inspiring so far.0
