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Charlton v Middlesbrough | Sat 07 Mar | 3pm KO | Post-match Thread
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If you took away opposition last minute goals and ones we have gifted the the other team, we'd be in the play offs...
But then if me auntie had bollocks...
Don't know why we didn't start with Bonne?
Shotton was awesome.0 -
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Having Bonne Green Taylor on the pitch was great, just a shame Green was fucking dog shit when we went with a 3.Alwaysneil said:I think having Bonne, Talylor and Green all on the pitch at the same time looks good.Hemed on the bench isn’t an impact sub more a cover for injuryAs I’d like to have 2 up front, I’d have to ask Green to play a bit deeper which needs a decent right back behind him, that pushes us to a 4 at the back.
the problem then is any serious width. Green can play ok at right mf, better more centrally. Williams can play ok as left mf but better centrally.Doughty and Lapslie can play better wider but are a bit young and can’t know enough yet to judge when to push and when to track back.
We don’t have a fully balanced side of proven championship level players and that may be the reason we go down.
aOr we chance it with a high press game with the youngsters from the start and then bring the older kegs on later.I’d roll the dice and give that a go.
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Nice work between Purrington and Lapslie for their goal - set them up nicely.4
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The better team won but it was a contest between two poor sides that looked out of form. We had a good 10 minute spell at the beginning of the second half but Boro did a good job of strangling the game. We desperately needed another period of pressure but it never came.
Despite the scoreline and the fact that the only goal of the game was a silly mistake, I thought our attack was okish but the defence looked creaky.If Boro had taken some good chances, it could have been a drubbing, although we had off flashes of looking like scoring. I don’t think we lacked effort particularly but we lacked quality and belief aside from that 10 minute spell.0 -
I seem to recall that Southall was offered Toney for £10m in January. Lot of money, but what if he'd scored in the last 3 matches and won us 3 or 4 points. Wonder what the revenue differential is between L1 and Championship, bet it makes £10m look quite small.1
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Do ESI have any money?PemburyAddick said:I seem to recall that Southall was offered Toney for £10m in January. Lot of money, but what if he'd scored in the last 3 matches and won us 3 or 4 points. Wonder what the revenue differential is between L1 and Championship, bet it makes £10m look quite small.1 -
We are suffering from lack of quality all over the pitch.
But responsibility lies with the RD regime last summer and ESI this Jan for lack of investment.
It's totally short sighted to blame Bowyer.14 -
They will decide on how many points to deduct at the end of the season thus allowing them to stay up.EdgeleyAddick said:Really bad performance first half, but need to stick with Bowyer and get behind the lads to stand any chance.
It was always going to be like this. He's had no money and a crack pot owner for half the season. Staying up was forecast by many in August as highly unlikely and the stuff of miracles.
The new guys coming in seem to have created false expectations.
Wednesday could also be in the mix if the EFL have the balls to deduct them points.2 -
Our best chance of staying up seems to be to be very nice and kind to afka all week. Apparently if he has a good week then we win.0
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70 % relegation ............ 30% stay up
100% sober
palace safe
scum knocking on play off door
our team , our club heading into oblivion
Myself 100% broken12 -
Just got back to Manchester, like a morgue in the car driving back, the four of us are normally quite upbeat, but that sinking feeling hit us hard today, we are all old enough, and long in the tooth, to know we was watching a team going down today.5
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Text my dad last night after the Millwall result last night saying to bet on us to lose and Palace to win because we've clearly fucked off the footballing Gods. So sad how fucking predicable it's becoming atm.oohaahmortimer said:70 % relegation ............ 30% stay up
100% sober
palace safe
scum knocking on play off door
our team , our club heading into oblivion
Myself 100% broken4 -
Most likely Charlton will be the final team to be relegated this season. Losing Leko, Field and Gallagher was a big loss. Don’t blame ESI for that.3
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The effort's there but the adrenalin that got a team of league 1 players, bolstered by a premiership player in Gallagher, through until the injuries struck and the Premiership player left has dissipated.cs1986 said:I got a feeling Bowyer has lost the players. Where has the effort gone? We have been poor at the back all season but at least we were decent going forward.
The players are doing their best. Unfortunately that is unlikely to be enough. 21st will be a miracle Duchatelet and ESI have thrown the manager and players under a bus with the lack of resources deployed for the level we are at.
Dulwich Hamlet's midfielder played a good number of games in midfield for us in the Championship. Ireally don't need to say anymore than that.4 -
Warnock? Where's that come from?
My arse!!
Bowyer all day long.
If we go down. We go down.12 -
Fucking embarrassing. Awful. Useless. Bowyer can do his usual "let's stick together" speech as much as he wants, but if you cant put out an 11 who look like they give a fuck, then what's the point? Afraid we're gone now. Will be a miracle if he turns this round.
Far to many passengers. WTF does green do all week to turn in that performance? So angry. We need to fuck off all these loan signings. Have had enough of it now. Not convinced anything is gonna get better under ESI, just royally pissed off tonight
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Very disappointed with the game. We don't have an Injury crisis so no other options to really make the difference. Throws in's and corners were awful and at times it looked like borough had 12 players on the pitch. Going to Hull, just hope the beers are good.0
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I agree. I don't blame ESI for losing those 3, but I do blame them for not adequately replacing them. Dont forget, their main reason why they rushed the takeover through (and so quickly it transpires that they didn't actually buy the club but are merely "renting it") was that they wanted to be in charge in January so they could strengthen the squad. And then they didnt.Sorry, but I dont get the "it's hard to do any business in January" bollox. Lots of clubs do spend or borrow decent players then, it just means paying a bit more thats all. Southall being an ex-agent would know all about this so it's hardly new to him.SouthWest_Addicks said:Most likely Charlton will be the final team to be relegated this season. Losing Leko, Field and Gallagher was a big loss. Don’t blame ESI for that.14 -
I did come on here to make a couple of points though.
Firstly: where is Morgan ? Surely he is better than playing Lapslie and certainly a better option that Smith. Recall him from his loan spell & put him in the team. Then there is Aneke. Another player who seems to have disappeared. Are they players who have fallen out with Bowyer. If so, expect to see them being sold to Rotherham or Fleetwood next season only to be bought by a promotion chasing Championship side the following xmas (Like Fosu).
Secondly. Anyone have any perspective on the various penalty shouts we had in the 2nd half. Did Taylor dive ? And what about the handballs ? Looked to me sitting in the East that the one near the end looked like a pen.
Thirdly. Taylor at corners. I wished he'd stop buggering about with their keeper & just do what 99.9% of other strikers do & stand on the penalty spot and try to head the ball into the goal. No idea who dreamt up his shenanigans but it isnt ever going to work and 9 times out of 10 the ref gives the foul against him. Much better doing what the real Matt Smith does & score at the back post.
Coaching badges. Not worth a light.5 - Sponsored links:
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I've been drinking. Drowning the sorrows. Avoiding the media social of Charlton.ForeverAddickted said:I know of one person who isnt getting a shred of the blame this evening yet fully deserves it!!
@Cantersaddick... didnt take his missus to the game and instead took someone who has an awful record of attending games at the Valley this season
Notice too he's kept very quiet tonight!!
I have told her she's coming to every home game for the rest of the season.3 -
Look how brave he is with a few beers inside him !cantersaddick said:I've been drinking. I have told her she's coming to every home game for the rest of the season.
Come this morning he might still have a bit of beer bravery left as he believes shes been told and he’s put his foot down and he wears the trousers in this relationship .
Cold light of day on Tuesday week he might be able to bluff her along to the game after work .
2.5 weeks later a millwall home fixture will be the perfect excuse of i thought it wouldn’t be safe for her to come along as a cover story for her telling him to poke his shit football team and that she’s got a lot better things to do than hang around with him and watch that crap .8 -
Now wash your hands thoroughly and go back to bed.oohaahmortimer said:
Look how brave he is with a few beers inside him !cantersaddick said:I've been drinking. I have told her she's coming to every home game for the rest of the season.
Come this morning he might still have a bit of beer bravery left as he believes shes been told and he’s put his foot down and he wears the trousers in this relationship .
Cold light of day on Tuesday week he might be able to bluff her along to the game after work .
2.5 weeks later a millwall home fixture will be the perfect excuse of i thought it wouldn’t be safe for her to come along as a cover story for her telling him to poke his shit football team and that she’s got a lot better things to do than hang around with him and watch that crap .
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Looking across the area from the west my immediate reaction wasn't "Penalty", but neither did I think it was a dive. The leaned into each other, tangled a bit and Lyle fell over. I understand why he would appeal, and I understand why the ref would say no. Booking was harsh IMHO.golfaddick said:I did come on here to make a couple of points though.
Firstly: where is Morgan ? Surely he is better than playing Lapslie and certainly a better option that Smith. Recall him from his loan spell & put him in the team. Then there is Aneke. Another player who seems to have disappeared. Are they players who have fallen out with Bowyer. If so, expect to see them being sold to Rotherham or Fleetwood next season only to be bought by a promotion chasing Championship side the following xmas (Like Fosu).
Secondly. Anyone have any perspective on the various penalty shouts we had in the 2nd half. Did Taylor dive ? And what about the handballs ? Looked to me sitting in the East that the one near the end looked like a pen.
Thirdly. Taylor at corners. I wished he'd stop buggering about with their keeper & just do what 99.9% of other strikers do & stand on the penalty spot and try to head the ball into the goal. No idea who dreamt up his shenanigans but it isnt ever going to work and 9 times out of 10 the ref gives the foul against him. Much better doing what the real Matt Smith does & score at the back post.
Coaching badges. Not worth a light.4 -
Their player swiped his legs from under him, he had every right to go down and it should have been a penalty. The backing into a player one was ridiculous. He wasted his opportunity to actually get involved.0
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No that cross was his one good pass. Keep comments to the post match views thread. Don't clutter this thread.Leuth said:
Sorry, this is nonsense. He defended pretty well - headers, blocks etc - and he put over a peach of a cross. There was one dreadful pass but you can't judge him on that aloneDazzler21 said:Oshilaja: 4 one good pass all game, everything else was poor.0 -
To say we have two L1 centre-halves playing at present would be flattering them. If Sarr unfit, bring in Stevenson and PLAY UP THE PITCH!!!3
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It's very noticeable that we are always second best in the possession stats and most of the other important stats like shots on target.
The rare exception was Notts Forest at home when we played a 4-1-2-1-2 formation, with Oztumer playing in the hole behind Taylor and Leko.
We could easily do the same again, and be almost as strong, with Williams replacing Gallagher on the left, Pratley replacing Sam Field just in front of the defence.
We may risk conceding by playing a most open expansive game, but we are conceding stupid goals anyway!
At least we may create some chances and possibly score a goal for a change.
Too often recently Williams has been playing too deep to create anything, no midfielders are playing probing balls or creating anything for Taylor or Bonne.
What happened v Forest was that virtually every player was playing in their favoured and most effective position. Even Oshilaja was playing well at right back. But we could replace him there now with Mathews.
We have to stop being scared and start playing some football again. If we can score a goal or two, get some confidence back, we may have a chance.
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Where is Solly yes he has had a very bad game or two this season and on the down slope of his career, but is still better than the 4 defenders we had out there yesterday.4
