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Sunderland Til I Die - Netflix

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  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    CAFCTrev said:
    I get that the reason this got made is because the producers are Sunderland fans so it was easy to pitch to Netflix, but I think whats happened at Charlton over the last couple of years, (and probably since 2007!) would make for a far more entertaining docu. Not just for Charlton fans but football fans in general. 

    Sundland got double relegated and got sold a couple of times, thats not that unusual these days?
    I suppose if you look at the situation when season one was commissioned then I imagine it was sold to Netflix as a completely different proposition

    Sunderland would have been a typical Premier League club and bet they thought they'd be filming a Premier League season, instead they turned into a Championship side with Netflix still thinking: "Great its going to be a season challenging for promotion", instead it probably worked out better for them that Sunderland got into trouble because it allowed them to show a Football club at the complete opposite end of the spectrum to the Man City / Amazon documentary

    Of course last season they must have thought that Sunderland would be sure to be in a promotion fight (which they were) and almost got their fairytale ending only for it to end in disaster again

    Bet that was a factor behind there being no season three for this year as they've not been filming yet it appears its not something that has been completely cancelled as the producers hope to have a successful ending

    As I said to my Dad last night on the phone, this is the trouble with these Documentaries, they can have all the hopes in the world but Football is without doubt no script!! - In a way you have to look at Charlton in a normal season, yes we've had our troubles which are obvious to see but each summer its not obvious that they'll happen (we certainly didnt see this mess happening back in August), take that away and we're pretty much the same as Sunderland e.g. a bang average team each with our own troubles... Sunderland just got lucky with the timing of their issues.

    The Fleetwood documentary would be interesting to watch (if it gets released) as their season was pretty uneventful, but then again, everyone would watch simply because of the Joey Barton incident @ Barnsley
    What happened?
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    "Season card"? Sweet Jesus, just get out of my club.....
  • TEL said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    I get that the reason this got made is because the producers are Sunderland fans so it was easy to pitch to Netflix, but I think whats happened at Charlton over the last couple of years, (and probably since 2007!) would make for a far more entertaining docu. Not just for Charlton fans but football fans in general. 

    Sundland got double relegated and got sold a couple of times, thats not that unusual these days?
    I suppose if you look at the situation when season one was commissioned then I imagine it was sold to Netflix as a completely different proposition

    Sunderland would have been a typical Premier League club and bet they thought they'd be filming a Premier League season, instead they turned into a Championship side with Netflix still thinking: "Great its going to be a season challenging for promotion", instead it probably worked out better for them that Sunderland got into trouble because it allowed them to show a Football club at the complete opposite end of the spectrum to the Man City / Amazon documentary

    Of course last season they must have thought that Sunderland would be sure to be in a promotion fight (which they were) and almost got their fairytale ending only for it to end in disaster again

    Bet that was a factor behind there being no season three for this year as they've not been filming yet it appears its not something that has been completely cancelled as the producers hope to have a successful ending

    As I said to my Dad last night on the phone, this is the trouble with these Documentaries, they can have all the hopes in the world but Football is without doubt no script!! - In a way you have to look at Charlton in a normal season, yes we've had our troubles which are obvious to see but each summer its not obvious that they'll happen (we certainly didnt see this mess happening back in August), take that away and we're pretty much the same as Sunderland e.g. a bang average team each with our own troubles... Sunderland just got lucky with the timing of their issues.

    The Fleetwood documentary would be interesting to watch (if it gets released) as their season was pretty uneventful, but then again, everyone would watch simply because of the Joey Barton incident @ Barnsley
    What happened?
    Barton apparently assaulted the Barnsley Manager in the tunnel after the game
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    Just watched Series 1 Episode 1. Couldn't believe how fired up the fans were for a pre-season friendly and as a consequence how badly they took the defeat. Those fans can be as much a hindrance as a help.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    About to start from episode 5 - then to 6.

    Quite excited.

    Will be a nice cheer up (I hope)
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,050
    Just watched Series 1 Episode 1. Couldn't believe how fired up the fans were for a pre-season friendly and as a consequence how badly they took the defeat. Those fans can be as much a hindrance as a help.
    Is that the episode where Darron Gibson gets filmed slagging off teammates for not caring enough when he’s completely off his face in some pub? 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    10 minutes in. When it flashed up “To get promotion Sunderland will have to finish in the top 2.......or face a play off”
    made me smile 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    edited April 2020
    Charlie Methven is David Brent - talks in cliches. An utter tosser.
    Couldn’t agree more. Felt he must be acting up for a bet or something. It’s like he’s trying to be Brent
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    This Charlie geezer doesn’t really understand football does he? Seems like a right bell

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  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Seeing Bauer, Aribo and Grant walk out the tunnel breaks my heart
  • I've only watched the first episode so far... Quite funny how they made a huge thing about the seats, then you see their game with us and can clearly make out pink faded seats again.  Bad editing.

    Found myself weirdly pleased when we scored in the first episode (even though we lost) so what I'll be like for the end....
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,412
    Charlie Methven is an absolute c-unit.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    Watched it all. Not a patch on the first series.
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Maja’a agent doesn’t come across very well in this. Doesn’t he have the same agent as Aribo?
  • Maja’a agent doesn’t come across very well in this. Doesn’t he have the same agent as Aribo?
    Yup
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    I was really looking forward to this series as an antidote to recent Charlton failure only to witness another Charlton failure in episode 1. 

    Poor editing in my view. 
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,702
    I was really looking forward to this series as an antidote to recent Charlton failure only to witness another Charlton failure in episode 1. 

    Poor editing in my view. 
    I thought the first series wasn't great in terms of editing either but the content is what makes it great. I've only seen the first episode of series 2 so far but it still seems very insightful.
  • Southendaddick
    Southendaddick Posts: 5,314

    Binged the whole series

    Felt a bit sorry for the bloke with his young lad at the end, knowing me and my lad were going completely mental at the same time. 

    Highs and lows of being a football fan.

    Good club with a superb loyal fanbase, hope they get back to Championship level when football resumes.

  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,223
    edited April 2020
    Charlie Methven is David Brent - talks in cliches. An utter tosser.
    Agreed. Only watched first episode of series 2 so far, but can’t stand him. That first meeting he has with the team and he’s just shouting at top of his voice that they’ll never make it in business. 

    I’ve had people like that as managers before, and it really doesn’t work morale-wise. The kind of person that quickly moves on when the ship is sinking and loudly states none of it was his fault. 

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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Watched episode 1 then straight to episode 6.

    Their first game was against Charlton Athletic, by the time they got to Wembley, they obviously couldn't be arsed as they were only playing Charlton.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Seen first three episodes. You can see the look on his staff's faces that they have sussed Metvhen out. 
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,653
    I have been muting every video and skipping every post I've seen of the new series until I can watch it tonight. Ugh hurry up 2pm!
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Watched the first episode then the last,  I did feel sorry for the guy consoling his son at the end only because if the result was the other way that would have been me having to console my boy.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,964
    Charlie Methven is David Brent - talks in cliches. An utter tosser.
    Agreed. Only watched first episode of series 2 so far, but can’t stand him. That first meeting he has with the team and he’s just shouting at top of his voice that they’ll never make it in business. 

    I’ve had people like that as managers before, and it really doesn’t work morale-wise. The kind of person that quickly moves on when the ship is sinking and loudly states none of it was his fault. 
    Yeah I had someone in charge of me like that in my last job. A manager manages their staff. A leader takes the staff with them. Methven is a manager and his staff will never feel motivated by his management style to follow him.
  • SX_Addick
    SX_Addick Posts: 667
    Just finished watching series 2. Charlie Methven is David Brent. Embarrassing. Gotta feel for those Sunderland fans though. So many times at Wembley without a win. 
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    I really enjoyed that last episode until that poor lady cried and then I felt like a bastard. 

    Still, wouldn't change that day for all the money in the world. 
  • RedJohn
    RedJohn Posts: 597
    very watchable, great fanbase, a little surprised to see how much they rated McGeady though.
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    Editing was terrible again, the owner Donald walking around his office allegedly talking about about and doing deals in the January window and it’s clearly summertime outside with greenery everywhere on the trees 
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    EastStand said:
    I really enjoyed that last episode until that poor lady cried and then I felt like a bastard. 

    Still, wouldn't change that day for all the money in the world. 
    I felt for them, and really do hope that if & when we restart they get promotion, but it’s nothing more than the disappointment that the majority of football fans around the world have felt before, and will feel again, including us, swings & roundabouts