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Is the season going to finish? (ed. Pg.53 - 3 players not returned to training)
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Because of the protcols put in place to help the Bundesliga restart.superclive98 said:
So explain why the players in the Bundesliga aren't testing positive left, right and centre.sam3110 said:
22 men running around a field together for 90 minutes, constantly gobbing, breathing heavily, shouting, jostling in the box, and you don't think it'll travel between them?! There's a 2m limit for a reason, gyms will be one of the last places to open for a reason, they tell people to wear face masks if social distancing isn't possible for a reason!Alwaysneil said:Don’t think football contact is more likely to spread the virus, I thought it mostly travelled around through the air in moisture droplets. Unless you have players gibbing at each other, close proximity to exhaled moisture is pretty rare.
Thats why Sancho and Akanji were fined they had Haircuts were neither the play nor the hairdresser were wearing PPE and risked catching the virus which could have messed everything up for them.
The DFL have been brilliant they set strict guidelines and its clearly worked1 -
So, are the protocols different here then?paulie8290 said:
Because of the protcols put in place to help the Bundesliga restart.superclive98 said:
So explain why the players in the Bundesliga aren't testing positive left, right and centre.sam3110 said:
22 men running around a field together for 90 minutes, constantly gobbing, breathing heavily, shouting, jostling in the box, and you don't think it'll travel between them?! There's a 2m limit for a reason, gyms will be one of the last places to open for a reason, they tell people to wear face masks if social distancing isn't possible for a reason!Alwaysneil said:Don’t think football contact is more likely to spread the virus, I thought it mostly travelled around through the air in moisture droplets. Unless you have players gibbing at each other, close proximity to exhaled moisture is pretty rare.
Thats why Sancho and Akanji were fined they had Haircuts were neither the play nor the hairdresser were wearing PPE and risked catching the virus which could have messed everything up for them.
The DFL have been brilliant they set strict guidelines and its clearly worked0 -
Don't give Naby ideasNorthheathAddick said:
100% & that 1st game against Hull is now our play off final...most probably could end that way,then see from there,then each game after if played becomes just as importantMuttleyCAFC said:
They should all be tested immediately. Because of the nature of football, the close contact is more aggressive and you would imagine more likely to spread the virus. It has to be expected that a few players will have it, but their teammates and players they have played against need to be cleared before they play again or the season could finish as soon as it has started.paulie8290 said:See this to me is were football is going to mess up.
A Norwich player has tested positive from the testing that was done on Thursday.
He will now self isolate for 7 days.
The problem is he was involved in the game against Tottenham on Friday, the rest of the Norwich squad and the Tottenham squad dont have to isolate because apparently the guidelines apparently state that close contact on a football pitch is under 5 minutes so they should be fine, but they are not being tested for a couple more days, so could have it and now be carriers
There is an added consideration for us. Given that an outbreak could hit things on the head, we have to get ourselves in a safe position from day one. We have to consider the possibility that the Hull match could be our only match.8 -
Well we dont know how the Norwich player caught it.superclive98 said:
So, are the protocols different here then?paulie8290 said:
Because of the protcols put in place to help the Bundesliga restart.superclive98 said:
So explain why the players in the Bundesliga aren't testing positive left, right and centre.sam3110 said:
22 men running around a field together for 90 minutes, constantly gobbing, breathing heavily, shouting, jostling in the box, and you don't think it'll travel between them?! There's a 2m limit for a reason, gyms will be one of the last places to open for a reason, they tell people to wear face masks if social distancing isn't possible for a reason!Alwaysneil said:Don’t think football contact is more likely to spread the virus, I thought it mostly travelled around through the air in moisture droplets. Unless you have players gibbing at each other, close proximity to exhaled moisture is pretty rare.
Thats why Sancho and Akanji were fined they had Haircuts were neither the play nor the hairdresser were wearing PPE and risked catching the virus which could have messed everything up for them.
The DFL have been brilliant they set strict guidelines and its clearly worked
We also dont know if he passed it on to other Norwich players in training or Tottenham players during the game.
What we do know is since the restart other than the Dresden incident there have been no issues in Germany despite regular testing, so no player has caught it and had to worry about having passed it on during a previous game, it hasn't happened so they are doing something right.
If I was a Tottenham player I would say I am not returning until we all get re tested at they come back negative1 -
Surely it's no different to when the Germans were preparing to restart. There were positive tests.paulie8290 said:
Well we dont know how the Norwich player caught it.superclive98 said:
So, are the protocols different here then?paulie8290 said:
Because of the protcols put in place to help the Bundesliga restart.superclive98 said:
So explain why the players in the Bundesliga aren't testing positive left, right and centre.sam3110 said:
22 men running around a field together for 90 minutes, constantly gobbing, breathing heavily, shouting, jostling in the box, and you don't think it'll travel between them?! There's a 2m limit for a reason, gyms will be one of the last places to open for a reason, they tell people to wear face masks if social distancing isn't possible for a reason!Alwaysneil said:Don’t think football contact is more likely to spread the virus, I thought it mostly travelled around through the air in moisture droplets. Unless you have players gibbing at each other, close proximity to exhaled moisture is pretty rare.
Thats why Sancho and Akanji were fined they had Haircuts were neither the play nor the hairdresser were wearing PPE and risked catching the virus which could have messed everything up for them.
The DFL have been brilliant they set strict guidelines and its clearly worked
We also dont know if he passed it on to other Norwich players in training or Tottenham players during the game.
What we do know is since the restart other than the Dresden incident there have been no issues in Germany despite regular testing, so no player has caught it and had to worry about having passed it on during a previous game, it hasn't happened so they are doing something right.
If I was a Tottenham player I would say I am not returning until we all get re tested at they come back negative
All that you can do is keep retesting players in the build-up to the restart and throughout the remainder of the season.0 -
TGermany was at a completely different part of the curve when football restarted is the most likely reason. It means that when players go to the grocery store, or when their partners go to the grocery store, or when the tea lady goes down the shops, there are fewer people they risk getting infected from.superclive98 said:
So explain why the players in the Bundesliga aren't testing positive left, right and centre.sam3110 said:
22 men running around a field together for 90 minutes, constantly gobbing, breathing heavily, shouting, jostling in the box, and you don't think it'll travel between them?! There's a 2m limit for a reason, gyms will be one of the last places to open for a reason, they tell people to wear face masks if social distancing isn't possible for a reason!Alwaysneil said:Don’t think football contact is more likely to spread the virus, I thought it mostly travelled around through the air in moisture droplets. Unless you have players gibbing at each other, close proximity to exhaled moisture is pretty rare.
If there was a genuine concern about player and staff safety, they would quarantine the teams together but separate from one another. It would increase the risk of spread within a team, but reduce the risk of contracting the virus from the outside world.
It's very easy to see this getting shut down again once it starts. Hull has to be considered a must-win. No three at the back with Cullen and Pratley in midfield. We've seen that team, time and again, and it's too negative and lacks creativity in midfield. 4-2-3-1 Williams, McGeady, Green as the three.1 -
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/53036195
Spurs confirmed they have no positive tests and said the Canaries player had "no close contacts" with their team.
A Spurs statement on Saturday said the club was following the government's definition of "close contact" as being within two metres of a confirmed case for 15 minutes or more.
What is with the 15 minutes or more rubbish, its a virus how is there a time limit.
So can u see your parents and hug them for 10 minutes, why did the government not say that before3 -
Its basically all bollox. No-one really knows so scientist make up numbers. There is a much greater probability that you will catch Covid-19 if you are in close proximity for 15 minutes to someone with it. They might cough after 10 secs......they might not cough at all.paulie8290 said:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/53036195
Spurs confirmed they have no positive tests and said the Canaries player had "no close contacts" with their team.
A Spurs statement on Saturday said the club was following the government's definition of "close contact" as being within two metres of a confirmed case for 15 minutes or more.
What is with the 15 minutes or more rubbish, its a virus how is there a time limit.
So can u see your parents and hug them for 10 minutes, why did the government not say that before
Same with the 2 metre rule. Do you think a virus know what 2 metres is....? Again, it's a study they've done saying that droplets from a cough or sneeze isn't likely to travel more than 2 metres. Its not an exact science. That's why I don't get too bothered with it all0 -
paulie8290 said:Spurs friendly against Reading on Saturday has been called off due to circumstance outside if their control that lie with the Championship Club apparently.
Sounds Covid related to me
Although looking back now Spurs cancelled a friendly on Saturday with Reading and ended up facing Norwich who also had a played with Covid191 - Sponsored links:
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A bit weird .......I wonder why ? Is it because there are no fans attending then it doesnt matter what time they kick-off........or that the youngest members of the team like Morgan & Dougherty need to be home before bed time in the case of the Brentford match. In both cases it cant be to do with travelling & staying over.clive said:0 -
Guess the whole pre-match / post-match preparations will changegolfaddick said:
A bit weird .......I wonder why ? Is it because there are no fans attending then it doesnt matter what time they kick-off........or that the youngest members of the team like Morgan & Dougherty need to be home before bed time in the case of the Brentford match. In both cases it cant be to do with travelling & staying over.clive said:
It wont effect the Reading game too much as its local but guess it gives more recovery time ahead of the Birmingham game
Wont be any staying in hotels for the long distance games
Will players have to drive themselves to all these games rather than one coach which'll be tiring for anyone0 -
I think they will be staying at hotels but are being understandably quiet about it.ForeverAddickted said:
Guess the whole pre-match / post-match preparations will changegolfaddick said:
A bit weird .......I wonder why ? Is it because there are no fans attending then it doesnt matter what time they kick-off........or that the youngest members of the team like Morgan & Dougherty need to be home before bed time in the case of the Brentford match. In both cases it cant be to do with travelling & staying over.clive said:
It wont effect the Reading game too much as its local but guess it gives more recovery time ahead of the Birmingham game
Wont be any staying in hotels for the long distance games
Will players have to drive themselves to all these games rather than one coach which'll be tiring for anyone
Key workers can book hotels and no doubt arrangements have been made as part of football starting up.1 -
I'm surprised they havent followed the German model as arent all clubs staying at Hotels during this final stage of the season and using them like World Cup camps?Redrobo said:
I think they will be staying at hotels but are being understandably quiet about it.ForeverAddickted said:
Guess the whole pre-match / post-match preparations will changegolfaddick said:
A bit weird .......I wonder why ? Is it because there are no fans attending then it doesnt matter what time they kick-off........or that the youngest members of the team like Morgan & Dougherty need to be home before bed time in the case of the Brentford match. In both cases it cant be to do with travelling & staying over.clive said:
It wont effect the Reading game too much as its local but guess it gives more recovery time ahead of the Birmingham game
Wont be any staying in hotels for the long distance games
Will players have to drive themselves to all these games rather than one coach which'll be tiring for anyone
Key workers can book hotels and no doubt arrangements have been made as part of football starting up.0 -
We probably would in the prem days, when we had moneyForeverAddickted said:
I'm surprised they havent followed the German model as arent all clubs staying at Hotels during this final stage of the season and using them like World Cup camps?Redrobo said:
I think they will be staying at hotels but are being understandably quiet about it.ForeverAddickted said:
Guess the whole pre-match / post-match preparations will changegolfaddick said:
A bit weird .......I wonder why ? Is it because there are no fans attending then it doesnt matter what time they kick-off........or that the youngest members of the team like Morgan & Dougherty need to be home before bed time in the case of the Brentford match. In both cases it cant be to do with travelling & staying over.clive said:
It wont effect the Reading game too much as its local but guess it gives more recovery time ahead of the Birmingham game
Wont be any staying in hotels for the long distance games
Will players have to drive themselves to all these games rather than one coach which'll be tiring for anyone
Key workers can book hotels and no doubt arrangements have been made as part of football starting up.1 -
Funny the vision of these pampered players making their own way to games. Reminds me of my Sunday league days waiting to be picked up outside Macdonalds in Eltham at 9 am. Usually severely hung over. A group of hung over blokes clutching sports bags and some puffing on a fag. The good old days. Who do you think has to bring the oranges first game?8
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Looking at our remaining fixtures, Wigan are the only team coming to The Valley who might want to stay overnight, whereas we have potentially 4 away matches where normally we wouldn't travel on the day - Hull, Cardiff, Birmingham and Leeds0
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My 2 best abiding memories of those days are......ct_addick said:Funny the vision of these pampered players making their own way to games. Reminds me of my Sunday league days waiting to be picked up outside Macdonalds in Eltham at 9 am. Usually severely hung over. A group of hung over blokes clutching sports bags and some puffing on a fag. The good old days. Who do you think has to bring the oranges first game?
1) getting into the changing room & opening the suitcase that the manager used to use for the kit only to find a load of fishing gear. Yes, the silly sod had been clearing out the loft & brought the wrong suitcase.
2) waiting for the opposition to turn up & with 5 mins to go to kick-off a small van turns up with about 6 blokes in it. On talking to them it we find out that a few had had an arguement whilst waiting for the van to arrive & half of them decided they didnt want to play. Ok.....but the bloke telling us had blood running down his arm after being cut with a knife.5 - Sponsored links:
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It's going to a very different Hull side to the one we expected to play on the 14th March.
They've lost their best 2 players who were so influential in nicking a point in the 2-2 draw at The Valley - but I would take nothing for granted. They're on their own patch and won't just roll over.
Remember, it's like the start of a new season. The old form book goes out of the window.
COYR!
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I have tried to keep up with all that is going on, but can someone tell me, have all the players whose contracts run out on June 30, (not loan), extended their contracts until the end of this season?0
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Well that Hull side has just got very differentOggy Red said:It's going to a very different Hull side to the one we expected to play on the 14th March.
They've lost their best 2 players who were so influential in nicking a point in the 2-2 draw at The Valley - but I would take nothing for granted. They're on their own patch and won't just roll over.
Remember, it's like the start of a new season. The old form book goes out of the window.
COYR!
Eric Lichaj | Jackson Irvine | Stephen Kingsley and surprise surprise: Marcus Maddison have refused to play any remaining games
Mallik Wilks on the other hand will only play in the first two games, understandably its Barnsley who have been reluctant to extend that deal3 -
Really does look like Bowyer approached our three players the right way by asking them BEFORE training restarted
It seems for other clubs that Managers are only now asking players the question as both Hull and Middlesbrough have had these announcements within 24-hours3 -
Maddison really seems a bad egg...ForeverAddickted said:
Well that Hull side has just got very differentOggy Red said:It's going to a very different Hull side to the one we expected to play on the 14th March.
They've lost their best 2 players who were so influential in nicking a point in the 2-2 draw at The Valley - but I would take nothing for granted. They're on their own patch and won't just roll over.
Remember, it's like the start of a new season. The old form book goes out of the window.
COYR!
Eric Lichaj | Jackson Irvine | Stephen Kingsley and surprise surprise: Marcus Maddison have refused to play any remaining games
Mallik Wilks on the other hand will only play in the first two games, understandably its Barnsley who have been reluctant to extend that deal3 -
Interesting situation with Barnsley refusing to extend the loan to a rival.4
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Its going to be an interesting summer for himDazzler21 said:
Maddison really seems a bad egg...ForeverAddickted said:
Well that Hull side has just got very differentOggy Red said:It's going to a very different Hull side to the one we expected to play on the 14th March.
They've lost their best 2 players who were so influential in nicking a point in the 2-2 draw at The Valley - but I would take nothing for granted. They're on their own patch and won't just roll over.
Remember, it's like the start of a new season. The old form book goes out of the window.
COYR!
Eric Lichaj | Jackson Irvine | Stephen Kingsley and surprise surprise: Marcus Maddison have refused to play any remaining games
Mallik Wilks on the other hand will only play in the first two games, understandably its Barnsley who have been reluctant to extend that deal
He's really shown that he only thinks about himself and he's not really had an opportunity to show the Championship what he can achieve
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Im surprised Man Utd have allowed Dean Henderson to complete his loan @ Sheffield Unitedstackitsteve said:Interesting situation with Barnsley refusing to extend the loan to a rival.
Be awkward if Sheff Utd finish above them!!
In Barnsley's case I wonder if they'll play Wilks themselves when he returns (or whether they're allowed)...
Was always odd when they loaned him out in the first place - I guess Hull were chasing the Play-Offs before they nose dived0 -
Thats Hulls Captain and Vice Captain that have decided not to play.
Hows that gonna go with the rest of the squad.
Fans on twitter think they are going down now lol2 -
Have to admit this is the stage where Lyle should potentially have mentioned the racism claimpaulie8290 said:Thats Hulls Captain and Vice Captain that have decided not to play.
Hows that gonna go with the rest of the squad.
Fans on twitter think they are going down now lol
i.e. Why is he getting abuse all over the media when other players are now getting away with it? (Albeit these decisions are just being made so the backlash could still come)1
