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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    I cant see why people want Hull to get a draw.......let alone a win. 

    You need 3 clubs to be below you after 46 games. Currently we have 3 teams below us. Therefore if they all lose their remaining matches then they can't catch us even if we lost all ours. Obviously some maybe playing each other & if do then you'd probably want those games to be draws.

    And, if Wigan beat Hull they still have to beat us (after their points deduction) to go above us, therefore it's still in our hands.

    No way do we want Hull to get any more points. At all.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    3 points from 9 and we are safe imo (as long as we don't get hammered and lose our goal difference advantage)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    jams said:
    What results do we want tonight then? 
    Wigan to beat Hull... Wigan I feel needed four points from their four games prior to Fulham on the last day to recover the 12-pt deduction, the Barnsley draw scuppered that, failure to win tonight and I think they're gone

    Luton to draw with QPR... Of course a win for the away team is the best result but they've been awful and dont see it happening

    Sheffield Wednesday to beat Huddersfield, even if the former are given a points deduction I still think they're too strong a side and would get out of the bottom three anyway, Huddersfield on the other hand will surely be safe with a win now
    Surely you want a Hull win then?
    Sorry I worded that really badly as I always do

    I think Wigan are gone now, they needed the 12-pts from these four game prior to the Fulham game... Because of the Barnsley draw I think they are gone

    If Hull lose and we win tomorrow then thats them both four behind us, think anything other than a Hull win tonight dooms both Wigan and Hull

    Barnsley I'm afraid are down, Saturday against Wigan was their last real hope of closing the gap enough to pinch a win - Of course we suddenly cant rule out Luton, I was a bit dismissive of them last week but regretting that a little bit now... Worst case tomorrow we draw which puts us above Middlesbrough and Huddersfield (I hope) meaning we just have to match their results for two games
    If Wigan beat Hull and us, they'll be on net 48 points before Fulham, so still with a great chance of staying up especially if we don't win tomorrow as their GD is good

    Even if we beat Brum to go onto 49, if we lose to Leeds, a draw against Fulham will mean they overtake us
    But then will we be above Huddersfield and Middlesbrough?

    Both of them have challenging fixtures: Sheff Wed | West Brom | Millwall for the former; Reading | Cardiff | Sheff Wed for the latter

    I think if we can get three points tomorrow and go above those two then I think we'll stay above them
    I was commenting more on the Wigan perspective, as I still feel they can stay up
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    I cant see why people want Hull to get a draw.......let alone a win. 

    You need 3 clubs to be below you after 46 games. Currently we have 3 teams below us. Therefore if they all lose their remaining matches then they can't catch us even if we lost all ours. Obviously some maybe playing each other & if do then you'd probably want those games to be draws.

    And, if Wigan beat Hull they still have to beat us (after their points deduction) to go above us, therefore it's still in our hands.

    No way do we want Hull to get any more points. At all.
    Wigan are effectively below us as well. The 12 point deduction gives them only 42 points. A draw would make it much harder for Wigan to overtake us AND still leave Hull below us on GD.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    I cant see why people want Hull to get a draw.......let alone a win. 

    You need 3 clubs to be below you after 46 games. Currently we have 3 teams below us. Therefore if they all lose their remaining matches then they can't catch us even if we lost all ours. Obviously some maybe playing each other & if do then you'd probably want those games to be draws.

    And, if Wigan beat Hull they still have to beat us (after their points deduction) to go above us, therefore it's still in our hands.

    No way do we want Hull to get any more points. At all.
    Wigan are effectively below us as well. The 12 point deduction gives them only 42 points. A draw would make it much harder for Wigan to overtake us AND still leave Hull below us on GD.
    Yes but we still have to play Wigan......dont lose to them & we stay above them. I wouldn't want go go into the last game relying on our GD to keep us up.......knowing that we were at Leeds.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Well right now after 33 mins, it's already Wigan 3 Hull 0.

    That's one 6-pointer match that ain't gonna end in a draw.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    And now after 35 mins, Reading 1 Boro 0

    Is it all going to plan so far tonight?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Wigan 4 Hull o after 38 mins.

     hull getting smashed.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Wigan going in dry
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    5-0 Wigan after 40 mins!
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  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    6!
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    6-0 before half time is insane. 
  • Err 7
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Boro equalise
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Hull's GD now stands at -24 and its only HT!!!
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Wigan winning 7-0 at half time means they've cancelled out all their minus GD ....... now 0.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Can't wait to play Wigan on Saturday.
  • Wigan have scored more goals in 10 minutes than we have since football restarted ....
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Wigan have scored more goals in 10 minutes than we have since football restarted ....
    Since January.
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,408
    Just hope Wigan have losted that goal touch by saturday.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Just hope Wigan have losted that goal touch by saturday.
    Making up for Saturday, they didnt have a single shot on goal against Barnsley
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Just hope Wigan have losted that goal touch by saturday.
    Perhaps we could play Hull again on  Saturday instead?


  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,727
    Hull need 2 points from their final two games to over take us if we do not get any more points. A draw for us tomorrow would mean they have to win one of their remaing games. 
  • Can’t wait to play Wigan!
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    the exact sort of result you follow up with a 0-1 defeat.
  • mattinfinland
    mattinfinland Posts: 1,096
    Unbelievable, surely Hull manager has to be sacked for them to have any chance of staying up

    Hull almost in a unrecoverable position you'd think after this 
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    We have to win tomrorrow, and I'm nowhere near being confident in us doing that. Bloody hate football!
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    Bet Luton can't wait to play hill now... Feck me you couldn't in all seriousness write this script... Not sure if I should laugh or cry and yet by some miracle we still have a chance to get out of this. 

    I really hope LB is watching the Wigan game and thinking feck! I better go for it tomorrow. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Oggy Red said:
    Can't wait to play Wigan on Saturday.
    And someone posted earlier, just because you've had a run of wins doesn't mean you'll win next time. A run had to end sometime. Saturday will be it.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Oggy Red said:
    Can't wait to play Wigan on Saturday.
    And someone posted earlier, just because you've had a run of wins doesn't mean you'll win next time. A run had to end sometime. Saturday will be it.
    Blimey, Golfie. That's not like you! :smile: