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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)

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  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,258
    Chaisty: We are looking for a short-term remedy in order to solve the matter with a trial
  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,547
    If Nimer was coerced into unknowingly selling the club to a company owned by the lawyer (Farnell) who was supposed to be representing his interests, then I cannot see how that contract can be legally binding.
    If Elliott is out of pocket, he should seek damages from Farnell.
    Contrary to what their Barrister is saying, I think Farnell s role in this is extremely relevant.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Is this guy just trying to get through to 5pm and force the whole thing to be extended?
    I just said the same thing to a mate. 
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    An early goal for the defence in the 2nd half,great start.....
  • Paddy Powell
    Paddy Powell Posts: 2,842
    ForeverAddickted said:
    EFL board found that Elliott had been owner since June 8th.

    Yet even Sandgaard said that the EFL had told him that it was Nimer who was the owner?
    Does anyone remember if the question of 'Who actually owns the football club?' was discussed or confirmed  during the ESI/Farnell/Southall hearing on July 17th? 
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    queensland_addick said:
    If Nimer was coerced into unknowingly selling the club to a company owned by the lawyer (Farnell) who was supposed to be representing his interests, then I cannot see how that contract can be legally binding.
    If Elliott is out of pocket, he should seek damages from Farnell.
    Contrary to what their Barrister is saying, I think Farnell s role in this is extremely relevant.
    Reckon Lozza gonna pull something like this out the bag mate
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Surrey Chaisty 161-4

    Kreamer batting now
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    "not black and white"...…..the trouble with that comment (Laura) is that all Chaisty needs is 'grey' to win an injunction and go to court!
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    I hope Lauren comes up with something concrete very quickly.
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  • Justin20474
    Justin20474 Posts: 756
    Well done Diego
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    meldrew66 said:
    I hope Lauren comes up with something concrete very quickly.
    F**K me, she's only had 5 minutes
  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    Diego has got better things to do that us sad fuckers watching this 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    swords_alive said:

    From 20 mins ago, just for the record-

    Chaisty: There is no evidence that this injunction will cause the club harm or deny it any benefits

    Chaisty: We have two different sales of 1 pound. The sale to ESI and the sale to my client. #cafc #SaveCAFC
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    1
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    Chaisty: Elliott has made the point that Nimer has "washed his hands of the club"
    That first sentence is a crock of shit. We are currently under a transfer embargo. As every day passes more harm is done by not being able to bring in players. That lawyer needs stringing up for that sentence alone.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Kreamer outlining the structure of ESI and says Mihail is "clearly authorised" to give evidence on behalf of Panorama.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Kreamer says Mihail a director of Panorama and ESI. Says he has "relevant expertise" and that he is liaising with EFL and is involved day-to-day running of the club.
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    Imagine Chaisty as your complaining neighbour. He looks a right one!
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Chaisty looks a really arrogant bastard.

    Seems he can't really be arsed to be there.

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    Covered End said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Jints said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mattinfinland said:
    Can LK use the football club, fans ... the season on a whole as part of a defence?

    EG its not just between Elliot and Nimer, the whole club is at stake?
    It's legally nothing to do with football ffs. 
    Disagree. ESI 1 can argue that delay diminishes the asset because of the imminent start of the season and potentially removes the chance of a sale. Therefore an interim injunction should not be awarded.
    But that could be settle with damages at a later point.  

    My point was it doesn't matter legally, if its a football club, a house or a sweet shop.  It's either been sold, has a contract of exclusiveity or it hasn't. 
    QC arguing that damages are no good because Panorama is a shell company based in Abu Dhabi and have no assets to pay any damages.
    Tough. PE should have thought about that before trying to buy us then. 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Chunes said:
    bigstemarra said:
    Has that gobshite QC shut up yet?
    Yes. And Laura's started well.
    Lauren
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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Well Kent has won lets us hope LK has the same result
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Kreamer defends Mihail’s “expertise” on this matter as director of CAFC and the person dealing with the EFL after Chaisty pointed out that he was not a director of Panorama. Nimer’s English not good enough, hence Mihail bearing witness for him.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Maybe Chaisty was a bit hasty and got a bit complacent.

    Fingers crossed
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Seems to have slowed down?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Kreamer explains that Mihail speaks for Nimer as Nimer is not a fluent english speaker #cafc #SaveCAFC
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,277
    Oh god, I am SO far behind on this. Expect the full bitesize sometime tomorrow
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    She's bringing up Farnell...
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    LK brings up Farnell via Lex Dominus. This should get good.
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    Lex Dominus was a company solely owned by Chris Farnell until 5th/6th June when PE took over
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,258
    Indeed (cos someone had to provide it!!!);


    Kreamer says Mihail is the best-placed person to give evidence as he has been advising and running things on the ground

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