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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    sammy391 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    sammy391 said:
    Probably have a difference in view, but think staying in this and at FA cup would be more beneficial.

    brings in extra finance and gives us the chance to field youngsters to gain experience etc’
    If we had a deep enough squad then I'd agree... at moment the longer these off field issues drag on, the fewer games we need
    Chizz said:
    sammy391 said:
    Probably have a difference in view, but think staying in this and at FA cup would be more beneficial.

    brings in extra finance and gives us the chance to field youngsters to gain experience etc’
    I don't think the youngsters not having a chance is going to be one of our biggest problems this season. 

    Agreed that we need players , particularly more senior ones for and ready - but games like these give chances to mingi/barker/aucharia/Maynard-brewster/etc 

    Can only be a positive that they get games 
    I dont know how it works as could be very wrong but Bowyer has to be careful as if someone like Aucharia (would love to see him get a chance) plays then we cant replace Lockyer until the embargo gets lifted as we'll go back to having 23-players in the team
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    This is a pretty-season friendly. Hope Bowyer gets a good run out from the current squad. Really don’t care at all what the result is.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    edited September 2020
    Charlie Barker really has come from no where

    Great opportunity for him to actually say to Bowyer that we dont need another CB (if we get Lynch)
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    They accidentally posted the teamsheet before hand with Amos as number 1
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    edited September 2020
    Seriously confused does Barker not now count as one of our 23 man squad? Or has it been decided there's no chance of signing anyone worthwhile under the embargo?
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    edited September 2020
    Other than Gilbey and Aneke on the bench and Washington and Williams away on international duty that is pretty much full strength (from those available).
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    MattF said:
    Seriously confused does Barker not now count as one of our 23 man squad? Or has it been decided there's no chance of signing anyone worthwhile under the embargo?
    Unless his age means we're allowed to play him and not get penalised?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    cfgs said:
    Other than Gilbey and Aneke on the bench and Washington and Williams away on international duty that is pretty much full strength (from those available).
    Wont be surprised to see Vennings against Crewe at this rate, he's been really involved this pre-season
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,794
    What is the formation? Lapslie playing RB? Maybe Deji? Can Barker play out wide?

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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,487
    JoshAddick said:
    They accidentally posted the teamsheet before hand with Amos as number 1
    I wondered why it was removed and then posted again, thanks for the explanation.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Callumcafc said:
    What is the formation? Lapslie playing RB? Maybe Deji? Can Barker play out wide?
    4-3-3? - Its been the case a few friendlies now

    Amos
    Oshilaja | Barker | Pratley | Purrington
    Forster-Caskey | Vennings | Lapslie
    Oztumer | Bonne | Doughty
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    MattF said:
    Seriously confused does Barker not now count as one of our 23 man squad? Or has it been decided there's no chance of signing anyone worthwhile under the embargo?
    Is it his age? I think he is 17.

    Mingi and Ness are older.

    Could we sign Lynch or Matthews as a non contract player so that they could play next week? 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,140
    stoneroses19 said:
    Blucher said:
    I reckon the team will duly oblige - although it would be very 'Charlton' to get a result in a competition where, relative to our league stats, we have one of the worst records of the 92 league clubs.
    Presume losing to Wycombe in QF (2005 or 2006?) is the furthest we’ve progressed. 
    I think you're right @stoneroses19. The only other progress I remember in the League Cup was around the mid-70s when we lost 3-2 at home to Stoke at The Valley in the last 16. An entertaining game in front of around 16,000 and young Garth Crooks got one of their goals.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,234
    Stoke scored in the first minute, not sure we'd even touched the ball before it was in the net. Two down soon after.

    Got it back to 2-2 and then Crooks won a penalty, thought it was a dive though.

  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    ForeverAddickted said:
    MattF said:
    Seriously confused does Barker not now count as one of our 23 man squad? Or has it been decided there's no chance of signing anyone worthwhile under the embargo?
    Unless his age means we're allowed to play him and not get penalised?
    Richard J said:
    MattF said:
    Seriously confused does Barker not now count as one of our 23 man squad? Or has it been decided there's no chance of signing anyone worthwhile under the embargo?
    Is it his age? I think he is 17.

    Mingi and Ness are older.

    Could we sign Lynch or Matthews as a non contract player so that they could play next week? 
    That makes sense, seems pretty generous and helpful by the EFL's standards
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    Surprised Vennings has gone ahead of Morgan 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    killerandflash said:
    Surprised Vennings has gone ahead of Morgan 
    Different player... I wonder if Vennings is being used as Pratley and Lapslie have been forced into defence as he sits a bit more doesnt he? 
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,634
    Morgan not as good as some people make out 
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603
    Looks a pretty weak line up, picked from a limited squad.  Unless we get TS in, I fear for our season. 

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    edited September 2020
    RaplhMilne said:
    Looks a pretty weak line up, picked from a limited squad.  Unless we get TS in, I fear for our season. 
    Five players absent though

    Two of those on the bench: Aneke and Gilbey
    Two on duty: Williams and Washington
    One injured: Pearce

    Still dont think we need massive amounts of improvement, quality over quantity 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    ForeverAddickted said:
    killerandflash said:
    Surprised Vennings has gone ahead of Morgan 
    Different player... I wonder if Vennings is being used as Pratley and Lapslie have been forced into defence as he sits a bit more doesnt he? 
    Vennings is more of an attacking midfielder though, Dempsey would be more of a defensive option
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    Well Sandgaard has just liked my tweet about thinking he'd be there today so is set to equal Roland for games attended 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    cafc4life said:
    Morgan not as good as some people make out 
    We have him a 3 year contract 2 months ago, which is a reasonable vote of confidence in him
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,891
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Looks a pretty weak line up, picked from a limited squad.  Unless we get TS in, I fear for our season. 
    Five players absent though

    Two of those on the bench: Aneke and Gilbey
    Two on duty: Williams and Washington
    One injured: Pearce

    Still dont think we need massive amounts of improvement, quality over quantity 
    I would suggest we need 5 defenders though, 2 CBs, 2 RBs and 1 LB, depending on whether we want to play with 2 or 3 CBs
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,461
    killerandflash said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Looks a pretty weak line up, picked from a limited squad.  Unless we get TS in, I fear for our season. 
    Five players absent though

    Two of those on the bench: Aneke and Gilbey
    Two on duty: Williams and Washington
    One injured: Pearce

    Still dont think we need massive amounts of improvement, quality over quantity 
    I would suggest we need 5 defenders though, 2 CBs, 2 RBs and 1 LB, depending on whether we want to play with 2 or 3 CBs
    Absolute minimum we need one RB, two CBs, a Cullen replacement and another Goalscorer

    But yeah we do need to heavily improve the defence
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Callumcafc said:
    What is the formation? Lapslie playing RB? Maybe Deji? Can Barker play out wide?
    4-3-3? - Its been the case a few friendlies now

    Amos
    Oshilaja | Barker | Pratley | Purrington
    Forster-Caskey | Vennings | Lapslie
    Oztumer | Bonne | Doughty
    Yes except I'm thinking:
    Lapslie Barker Deji Purrington
    Vennings Pratley JFC
    Oz ......Bonne........Doughty
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    Richard J said:
    MattF said:
    Seriously confused does Barker not now count as one of our 23 man squad? Or has it been decided there's no chance of signing anyone worthwhile under the embargo?
    Is it his age? I think he is 17.

    Mingi and Ness are older.

    Could we sign Lynch or Matthews as a non contract player so that they could play next week? 
    This is my guess as well. It's really the only thing that makes sense. It would also mean that Henry doesn't count against us (though he played last season). 
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    I always think it is good to play youngsters in these cup games, but unfortunately, we do not have any choice. Have not a lot of interest in these games, I will look at the result and read other peoples opinions, but I cannot get any enthusiasm going yet
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    edited September 2020
    ForeverAddickted said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Looks a pretty weak line up, picked from a limited squad.  Unless we get TS in, I fear for our season. 
    Five players absent though

    Two of those on the bench: Aneke and Gilbey
    Two on duty: Williams and Washington
    One injured: Pearce

    Still dont think we need massive amounts of improvement, quality over quantity 
    Got to say I disagree.

    Believe we need at least another 9 players.

    2 right backs
    2 centre backs (don’t want Barker as 4th choice, 5th sure, not 4th)
    1 left back
    1 or 2 centre mids
    1 or 2 wingers
    1 striker

    Without that, we are too reliant on youth, too reliant on players who haven’t played men’s football, too reliant on our ability to produce players for the first team when not everyone will make the grade.

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