Government urged to allow return of fans (ed. Limited crowds to return in Tiers 1&2)

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

jacob_CAFC said:

StigThundercock said:

Two things:
London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months.
How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?

What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?

Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules

It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest.  For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.

How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.

Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death.
By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right.  Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they?  The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it?  Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions.
Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.  

I'd go to a game at The Valley tomorrow  without even having to think twice about it were I allowed to. 

ForeverAddickted said:

As Simon Jordan has put on TalkSport it seems bizarre they've kept it so simple

e.g. 4000 fans inside Old Trafford is a tiny figure

4000 inside Accrington's ground is pretty much at capacity for them

Isn’t it the smaller of 4K and 50% of capacity?

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

jacob_CAFC said:

StigThundercock said:

Two things:
London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months.
How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?

What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?

Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules

It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest.  For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.

How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.

Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death.
By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right.  Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they?  The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it?  Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions.
Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.  

I’m an adult. I will not die from this. I will also no go and see anyone in my family if they were vulnerable. I don’t need people like you dictating what I can and can’t do. Stop scaremongering, you are not the police or the government. You do what you want and let’s others do what they want. 

Nobody has died from COVID?

Sounds like Charlton are working towards having fans in against Franchise next Wednesday. Guessing we wont hear officially until tomorrow, but hearing positive news. What happens with distribution of tickets I do not know, as heard from old bill and not the club.

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

jacob_CAFC said:

StigThundercock said:

Two things:
London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months.
How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?

What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?

Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules

It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest.  For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.

How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.

Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death.
By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right.  Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they?  The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it?  Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions.
Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.  

I’m an adult. I will not die from this. I will also no go and see anyone in my family if they were vulnerable. I don’t need people like you dictating what I can and can’t do. Stop scaremongering, you are not the police or the government. You do what you want and let’s others do what they want. 

Nobody has died from COVID?

How on earth have you got that from my post.

"I will not die from this".

Again, where did I say nobody has died from COVID? 

shine166 said:

eaststandmike said:

shine166 said:

ME14addick said:

I don't suppose the Government even considered that fans may live in areas with different tiers.  It would certainly be madness to allow people from an area with high infection rates, to travel to an area with low infection rates. 

They probably thought people would use common sense and not travel from a teir 3 zone to attend.

Good luck with that one.

Thats been the theme all along, telling the public to use common sense, just wipes there hands of responsibility and puts it all on us when things go bad. 

Difficult jugling act with that, either they shut it all down until and when
the vaccine is in use and working, or try and give joe public a bit of freedom
but rely on the old common sense scenario.
So the old one of dammed if you do etc..,  let's just hope common sense does
prevail

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

jacob_CAFC said:

StigThundercock said:

Two things:
London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months.
How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?

What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?

Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules

It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest.  For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.

How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.

Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death.
By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right.  Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they?  The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it?  Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions.
Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.  

I’m an adult. I will not die from this. I will also no go and see anyone in my family if they were vulnerable. I don’t need people like you dictating what I can and can’t do. Stop scaremongering, you are not the police or the government. You do what you want and let’s others do what they want. 

Nobody has died from COVID?

How on earth have you got that from my post.

"I will not die from this".

Again, where did I say nobody has died from COVID? 

I questioned your ridiculous comment that you will "not die from this".  I did not say you had said nobody has died.
It is nice to know that you will not be dying from COVID.

Again, I will not die from Covid. Not sure why this clearly rattles you so much, stop bet wetting and let others get on with their life. Enjoy sheltering at home. 

What makes you invincible from COVID, unlike the rest of the world?

Everyone stay at home, everyone must be scared. It's quite pathetic how people have such disdain of others wanting to lead a normal life. The same type who signed up to be a Covid Marshall I imagine.  

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

jacob_CAFC said:

StigThundercock said:

Two things:
London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months.
How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?

What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?

Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules

It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest.  For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.

How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.

Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death.
By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right.  Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they?  The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it?  Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions.
Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.  

I’m an adult. I will not die from this. I will also no go and see anyone in my family if they were vulnerable. I don’t need people like you dictating what I can and can’t do. Stop scaremongering, you are not the police or the government. You do what you want and let’s others do what they want. 

Nobody has died from COVID?

How on earth have you got that from my post.

"I will not die from this".

Again, where did I say nobody has died from COVID? 

Whether or not you die from a needlessly contracted virus is very much not the point.
Your selfish actions leading to the illness, impairment, disablement or death of any others is solely the point.
You're clearly sanguine about that.
Many others feel quite differently.


 

StigThundercock said:

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

J BLOCK said:

StigThundercock said:

jacob_CAFC said:

StigThundercock said:

Two things:
London's gonna be in Tier 3 for weeks if not months.
How many of you are really gonna go to a match and risk giving your Granny COVID for Christmas?

What level of avoidable illness and deaths in your own families is acceptable to allow you to attend a few more matches before most of us get the chance of an inoculation in the Spring?

Does seem bizarre to allow people to go to games right after a lockdown - i wouldn't blame the people choosing to go though, it's the government and their stupid rules

It's not the government's bizarre rules or the absence of any that makes a reckless halfwit take an entirely avoidable risk with the health of their supposedly nearest and dearest.  For the sake of another few months before we get some sort of certainty, attending any sort of crowded event is unforgivable.

How about you let people get on and do what they see fit for their own nearest and dearest.

Is precisely why Leicester, Liverpool and now Swale have these levels of infection, hospitalisation and death.
By all means carry on as if you're invulnerable, that's your right.  Any of your "near and dear" that suffer as a result of your dogmatic enforcement of your so called liberty, that's on you; you can't have it both ways. Trouble is the unfortunate saps that bear the brunt of all this loudly hectored "freedom" don't get a choice do they?  The bill for your much vaunted "freedom" isn't paid by you is it?  Your freedom is constrained by your neighbour's right to not have their life spoiled by your actions.
Not making your Nan ill strikes me as no price to pay - you disagree, as is your right. Sleep well.  

I’m an adult. I will not die from this. I will also no go and see anyone in my family if they were vulnerable. I don’t need people like you dictating what I can and can’t do. Stop scaremongering, you are not the police or the government. You do what you want and let’s others do what they want. 

Nobody has died from COVID?

How on earth have you got that from my post.

"I will not die from this".

Again, where did I say nobody has died from COVID? 

Whether or not you die from a needlessly contracted virus is very much not the point.
Your selfish actions leading to the illness, impairment, disablement or death of any others is solely the point.
You're clearly sanguine about that.
Many others feel quite differently.


 

What selfish actions is this? 

@J BLOCK what is your opinion on people blatantly ignoring the guidelines on wearing face coverings?