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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Milton Keynes | Wednesday 2nd December 2020

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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,253
    edited December 2020
    --------------------Amos
    Gunter--Pearce--Famewo--Maatsen
    -------------------Watson
    ----Morgan----------Shinnie
    -------------Maddison 
    -----Chuks - Washington

    Next game please.... Stop putting square pegs in round holes and just play the best team available, too much rotation 
  • Shocking, we made them look like Brazil and a good Brazil at that.

    They could easily have won 5- 0 and no complaints had they, we looked slow and weak like a team that had been out on the piss the night before.

    We weren't even third best and I am normally positive.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,648
    A pile of Ass. It ends 0-4 if we didn’t have Amos to thank .
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,800
    Tinker man does it again! 
    Crap performance throughout, and the substitutions added bugger all! 

    Competently wrong shape and tactics for
    a game that just needed a solid and controlling midfield! 

    When Maddison has the ball he is dangerous, yet he’s never given the ball in dangerous areas! 
    Really missed maatsen today, and with Watson so one dimensional it’s hard to see where the midfield movement would come from! 

    These games we have to be winning if we are
    to be around top 6 come jan- just can’t see us keeping up with the early pace setters! 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,976
    This thread is already predictable.

    I think it best to give it a swerve until tomorrow. 


  • Bowyer is obsessed with the next game rather than focussing on this one. Substitutions dead on 60 minutes, taking off players due to minutes played rather than performance. So predictable. 

    Mk would have known that aneke was coming on for bogle after an hour! Mix it up Lee, stop being so predictable
  • Debaser
    Debaser Posts: 102
    No reason Williams/Maddison/Shinnie/Morgan can't play like Fraser tonight if we had a manager that encourages attacking football instead of Pratley and Watson playing 2 yard passes to each other all night. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,402
    There's a case for keeping Purrington in and playing Maatsen in midfield tbh
  • 4 points from 4 games is pretty shit and we've got another 'lesser' side coming up on Saturday which worries me already.

    Only bright spot of the night, Millwall lost to an injury time goal away at Blackburn.
  • Maddison the only one to cause them any problems,dont know how old Lewington is but several times he has run 50 yards with the ball unchallenged,never got to grips with their attacks down our right hand side,an alarming lack of pace up front and midfield,this really was poor.

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  • What I don't understand is we had 2 left-footed central defenders on the bench tonight. Pearce for the 3rd or 4th time.

    If they're not fit to play 90 minutes why have both on the bench?

    If one of them is fit to play, why on earth start Pratley again in defence?

    I just don't get it.
  • Many fans will be doom and gloom because apparently other sides can never play well and it's because we are awful. 

    Where as I think MK Dons were just very good tonight. I can't remember a team moving the ball that fluid and quickly since Brentford played at the Valley last season.

    My only worry, and it's a constant thing with Bowyer sides is we looked so poor in possession tonight. But I think it's a rigid tactical thing over player ability. The only way we were going to combat MK Dons tonight was by moving the ball quicker and better than them, but we are so always so rigid and lack movement.

    Also not sure why Maddison got any pelters from anyone tonight, he was the only player he looked to make things happen and put them on the back foot. He may be trigger happy but he put in 4 dangerous balls at the backend of that game that nearly got converted. 
  • 2nd best all night .

    2nd to every ball, especially in the air .

    Very very disappointing & quite pleased we're not waiting our turn to exit The Valley & trudge morosely back to the car.

    Too many injuries ? But that's nothing new & not really an excuse, surely?

    Just didn't look to be at the races from kick off to final whistle apart from a few decent moves with Maddison involved.

    Will be interesting to hear Bow's reflections on the game.

    Anyway, our Japanese neighbour has removed the glass from his side of the adjoining wall , shaking his head and muttering " Sounds like Mr F was out of luck tonight...." 
  • Stage fright every time, like rabbits caught in the headlights.
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,705
    edited December 2020
    Can anyone in our team tackle or run fast. Totally overrun tonight we are making far too many changes to the starting eleven each match.

    Midfield totally out played.

    Cant see any chance of a top two finish too slow and no power.
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,247
    edited December 2020
    One shot on target! Got what we deserved... knew we'd cock it up today.
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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,412

  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,090
    2nd best, didn't deserve anything. From what I've seen this season we're quite laborious going forward. Doesn't seem fluid, missing some pace in the side especially from Doughty.



  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,763
    @CroydonMate, his inability to go forwards is ridiculous. Right at the end, either cross it or play it back, he hesitates and loses the ball.

    His primary job is that of a defender though, he's no different to Gunter who wont advance forward very often, certainly wouldn't have him as a Wing-Back... Regardless though, for all his "inability to go forward" he was still one of the few who didnt put a foot wrong whenever MK Dons had the ball, so did his primary job!!
    Solid at the back, but the system doesn't suit him. Blame then falls on Bowyer.

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  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,926
    edited December 2020
    Here is a repeat, from the Ipswich post-match thread:

    Ladies and gentlemen, the last few days have demonstrated one thing:

    Don't let the highs get too high, don't let the lows get too low.


    There's no middle ground on here, people are up and down like a bride's nightie.

    No, it wasn't enjoyable tonight.

    Yes, it's disappointing to lose at home to MK.

    But this result or performance hasn't put a block on us winning promotion in 6 months' time.

    If we carry on with tonight's form throughout this month then it's a cause for concern but when was the last time we put on a decent show and got a win in a milestone or celebration match, or Kids For A Quid/Football For A Fiver game?

    This is our Charlton, this is what we do.
  • WHAddick said:
    Why do we struggle against the lower sides but handle our promotion rivals easily. Is it all just team setup? Surely it can't be a simple thing can it?
    I'd say tonight that MK Dons setup better than us, plain and simple and we didnt have an answer for it, it happens - They certainly didnt stick eleven men behind the ball the way Lincoln or Burton have done this season

    @Sage shared a graphic on the Match Preview, MK Dons have more possession than anyone else in EUROPE this season, Russell Martin has taught them to keep the ball but seems too many are surprised on here that they kept the ball so well tonight?

    If our rivals want to find a way to beat us, thats they way they need to do it

    Hopefully as shown from too many games they wont
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Cannot understand the stick Maddison seems to get. He did really well when he came on.
    Eh? One good cross does not make up for the many attempted (and failed) Hollywood balls and absolutely zero work ethic. We are not good enough to be able to carry someone completely unwilling to work for the team. 
  • Losing to MkDonalds is always depressing, time for some valium and whiskey....goodnight.
  • So very Charlton
  • Lost before the off. Somebody said pre-match they’ll boss the midfield if we play a diamond...if fans know that Bowyer must. He needs to hold his hands up to that. We’re chasing games from the start because we’re constantly re-adjusting. Often it works, but we’ve been lucky. I like LB, but I’d be very surprised if he ever manages in the premier league.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,034
    As I said in the match thread, they were a CF away from a comfortable win. They played us off the park. What did we do wrong that other teams didn’t?
    Well, their high percentage of possession in previous games has potentially been because teams pack the midfield and prevent passes between the lines. Therefore most of there passes were across the back. We tried to high press then when that got worked out, they came at us at will. Half hearted tackles and dangling legs. I lost count the amount of times we just let them stroll past. It was ‘only a matter of time’. Poor performances across the team, our inconsistency will cost us along with our inability to control teams below us.
  • Croydon said:
    @CroydonMate, his inability to go forwards is ridiculous. Right at the end, either cross it or play it back, he hesitates and loses the ball.

    His primary job is that of a defender though, he's no different to Gunter who wont advance forward very often, certainly wouldn't have him as a Wing-Back... Regardless though, for all his "inability to go forward" he was still one of the few who didnt put a foot wrong whenever MK Dons had the ball, so did his primary job!!
    Solid at the back, but the system doesn't suit him. Blame then falls on Bowyer.
    He played as part of a back four... Like I've said, watch Gunter when he plays Right-Back, there is absolutely no difference

    Because Purrington struggles above League One level though he's targetted on here whenever he plays
  • cafcledbury
    cafcledbury Posts: 1,229
    edited December 2020
    Amos kept us in the game. Fraser for them dominated the game. We should buy him in January