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Post-match Thread: Charlton v Swindon | Sat 23 Jan 2021

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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,079
    It's groundhog day. Going in at half time chasing the game, using all 5 subs,unable to defend. 

    Under half a season left of this shit unless something changes 

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    What a stupid thing to say in public, we all know its true, but what does he do if Chuks breaks down before Bogle is out the door? 
  • SE_7EVEN
    SE_7EVEN Posts: 289


    Disagree - I felt that we played really well - periods of play there reminded me of when we first played under Bowyer. Shame we defended soo poorly and gifted them 2 goals - that’s just not acceptable. We should have scored at least 5 or 6 - we hit the woodwork 3 times! Good game and you’ve got to take a point after 2 down. 

    Agree Dan well summed up
  • Supporting Charlton is a bit like being in a relationship with a violent nymphomaniac. You just can't enjoy the good bits as much as you think you should. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,488
    edited January 2021
    Scoham said:
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    Bogle will be gone by the end of the window.
    We've had 20 days to sign a CB. 

    We've signed 2 strikers and a winger instead. 

    Even if Bogle leaves that makes zero sense. 
    I thought we needed a 20-goal Striker though, thats been the primary argument on here since the summer
    Right but outside of that nonsense straw man argument. 

    Bowyer and Gallen have gone into January with both starting CBs out for a long period of time. No guarantee they come back as solid as they were, no guarantee they don't get reinjured while coming back. 

    We concede 10 goals in the month leading up to the new transfer window. They decide CB isn't a priority.

    Terrible squad management. Every game in January we've conceded more than 2 goals proves it. 
  • We seem to be unlucky in a lot of games- a recurring theme. 

    Surely we can defend better than this with the players available. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Cafc43v3r said:
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    What a stupid thing to say in public, we all know its true, but what does he do if Chuks breaks down before Bogle is out the door? 
    I really don’t think he should talk to the press post match. 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    What a stupid thing to say in public, we all know its true, but what does he do if Chuks breaks down before Bogle is out the door? 
    I'd be surprised if Bogle isnt half out the door already
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    robroy said:
    se9addick said:
    robroy said:
    Would love Curbs back 
    Wonder if Mendonca & John Robinson could still do a job too?
    Come on. Not the same. Having listened to Curbs these last few weeks. The guys a genius, he knows his stuff 
    The genius of Curbs is he knows/knew how to keep things simple.  You don't reinvent the wheel every other week. 

    That's why we were perfect for him, and he perfect for us. 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Cafc43v3r said:
    esseffect said:
    Croydon said:
    esseffect said:
    “Boywer got it all wrong” 

    The same people who wanted the same line up
    He's not getting it wrong in the selection anymore, but clearly something is wrong with the coaching. Every player we've got has regressed this season, and our defence is getting worse and wors
    He’s getting wrong for a new reason.... that’s convenient.

    He’s not above criticism, but the defence and injuries have always been the issue
    He has had 3 weeks to sort the defence. He has bought in 3 forwards.  The defenders aren't bad players.  Please name them if they are. 

    How long can you you use injuries to defend a manger when all the injuries happen in training?

    How long can you blame injuries to the "center backs" who have never played a full season between them?

    Do you honestly think Swindon/Rochdale/Shewsbury/Plymouth MK Dons (Delete as appropriate) defenders are better than available ones? 

    Jackson is the one coaching the defence, are we sacking him? 

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  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,255
    So what happens if akin or Ryan comes back or and breaks down again in the first game and we haven't bothered to bring in another cb? 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Cafc43v3r said:
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    What a stupid thing to say in public, we all know its true, but what does he do if Chuks breaks down before Bogle is out the door? 
    I'd be surprised if Bogle isnt half out the door already
    Would have been all the way out by now if he hadn’t missed it!
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,816
    On another day, Schwarz puts that in after on 2m and we stroll it.  On this day, sadly, we give away stupid goals and have to fight like hell to get a point.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,488
    So what happens if akin or Ryan comes back or and breaks down again in the first game and we haven't bothered to bring in another cb? 
    Blame the wage cap while paying for 4 strikers on big wages. 
  • Scoham said:
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    Bogle will be gone by the end of the window.
    We've had 20 days to sign a CB. 

    We've signed 2 strikers and a winger instead. 

    Even if Bogle leaves that makes zero sense. 
    I thought we needed a 20-goal Striker though, thats been the primary argument on here since the summer
    Right but outside of that nonsense straw man argument. 

    Bowyer and Gallen have gone into January with both starting CBs out for a long period of time. No guarantee they come back as solid as they were, no guarantee they don't get reinjured while coming back. 

    We concede 10 goals in the month lead up to the new transfer window. They decide CB isn't a priority.

    Terrible squad management. Every game in January we've conceded more than 2 goals proves it. 
    What you say is what I've been arguing for weeks, defence has been the problem since the International Break... Only I've been constantly ignored saying that a 20-goal Striker should be the priority, which we've prioritised in this break

    We've been fine for goals this season bar a handful of games

    So you're not going to get me changing my tune
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    Im getting into  a habit of betting on us to win when losing at half
    time. Worked well for the wimbledon game!!
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,010
    Will scrape 6th and then do Sunderland at Wembley. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,378
    Cafc43v3r said:
    So that explains Smyth, Bogle, Schwartz, Stockley, Washington, Aneke? 

    We needed a CB far far more than Stockley. 
    What a stupid thing to say in public, we all know its true, but what does he do if Chuks breaks down before Bogle is out the door? 
    Plays Stockley
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    esseffect said:
    Croydon said:
    esseffect said:
    “Boywer got it all wrong” 

    The same people who wanted the same line up
    He's not getting it wrong in the selection anymore, but clearly something is wrong with the coaching. Every player we've got has regressed this season, and our defence is getting worse and wors
    He’s getting wrong for a new reason.... that’s convenient.

    He’s not above criticism, but the defence and injuries have always been the issue
    He has had 3 weeks to sort the defence. He has bought in 3 forwards.  The defenders aren't bad players.  Please name them if they are. 

    How long can you you use injuries to defend a manger when all the injuries happen in training?

    How long can you blame injuries to the "center backs" who have never played a full season between them?

    Do you honestly think Swindon/Rochdale/Shewsbury/Plymouth MK Dons (Delete as appropriate) defenders are better than available ones? 

    Jackson is the one coaching the defence, are we sacking him? 
    If we continue shipping so many goals then there needs to be a change. Coaching staff have to take some responsibility.
  • It’s a poor result - but it is coming. 

    We’re moving in the right direction and it will click soon 

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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,702
    Gutted about the result but we did play well in places and with a bit of luck we'd have won that game comfortably. 

    We're not getting the luck we need to score 4 or 5 goals but at the same time we're still making bad mistakes.

    If we get Famewo/Inniss back and fit for the rest of the season I think we could be up there but if it takes them much longer then we'll have to settle for midtable. Having them back would give everyone else a boost and I think some of these mistakes wouldn't be made if that back 5 weren't so low on confidence.

    Thought Shinnie played well so him back in the starting 11 on Tuesday would be good for us. Stockley also looks like the alternative to Aneke that we needed.
  • Hadn't realised Swindon were second from bottom. Even more embarrassing than I first thought.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,196
    Played ok, but the defence weren't helped out in the first half so bowyer switched to the diamond at half time which helped. Could have won it really, if we could only take our chances. 
    Hope we've learnt some tactical lessons today. 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,137
    Sorry Scotty, you won’t see me Tuesday
  • SamB09 said:
    Im getting into  a habit of betting on us to win when losing at half
    time. Worked well for the wimbledon game!!
    The odds of us winning after going 1-0 surely must be about 1000/1 now. 
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,135
    We aren't good enough to get promoted end of story. 
  • dickad1
    dickad1 Posts: 263
    edited January 2021
    I understand that and why people are frustrated, but I think we have been playing much better lately. A lot of talk about centre backs, but we were ok there today I thought - can't really blame either of the goals on them and I thought both had a decent game.  

    It's frustrating not to be picking up points, but the recent games have generally been a good watch.

    If we do sneak the playoffs, and have a reasonably fit squad at that point, I don't think many will fancy playing us. 
  • We won't win anything with this weak defense.

    Too many goals just given away in recent games. It must drain the whole team's confidence to face an uphill struggle in virtually every game.

    I cannot see any hope for us until we have our best defenders back from injury. (How long do we have to wait!). If we can keep clean sheets again we only need one goal to go in from our profligate strikers. 

    I live in hope for our defensive performances to radically improve to give us just an even chance in games.

    The pain is hard to take when we consistently throw away so many crucial points from games we should be winning (on paper!).
  • Park the ‘poor old Lee and his non league standard group of players’ bollocks. This is major underachievement we are seeing from the management all the way through. These are players who are proven at the top end of league one and the championship even.

    many managers will have gone for a lot less. Thomas backed Lee in the last transfer window - we bought in international players, and talent that has proven to be able to perform at the top of this division.

    we took two points at home against utter chuff.

    Thomas hasn’t made millions from letting underperfoming staff members carry on being mediocre. Something is gonna change somewhere at some point.
  • Played well.
    Should have won.

    Keep the faith.
    COYR