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Post-match Thread: Charlton v Blackpool | Sat 27 Feb 2021

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Lisbie was right but what he didn't know was that Pratley getting a red was likely!
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,911

    Utterly appalling. A flaccid and vacuous performance against a bang-ordinary team – we mustered just two shots in the entire game, neither of which was on target. Pitiful.

    Blackpool were playing keep-ball at the end. After 30 consecutive passes, we intercepted – and lost possession with the second pass. That speaks volumes. Our approach play is pedestrian and plodding – there is no spark or surprise, no flash of danger. Apart from Millar. Poor Jaiyesimi made wrong decisions when advancing; he’s been Charltonised already.

    Amos has become a liability within just a few games; witness the innocuous shot late in the second half that he fluffed for a corner. The second penalty seemed harsh; Aneke’s straight red looks justified when the elbow is seen in slow motion.

    Almost zero chance of the play-offs. We are shyte.





  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    Jayajosh said:
    bobmunro said:
    Up until 2.45pm I WAS NOT GOING TO SPUNK A TENNER ON THIS SHIT.

    But I did, can't help supporting this crock of shit although I wish I could.

    I simply cannot remember a time in my 56 years supporting the Club where we've had a worst team. Clueless, spineless, incompetent (from the team management down) and totally lacking any semblance of a team.

    We will survive this season but any hope of promotion has gone completely. We need a new management team NOW and their task will be to not give much of a toss about the rest of this season - they need to get rid of the dead wood (80% of the squad) and rebuild.

    And on cue Bowyer turns up and blames the ref. For Fucks Sake - we were shit, Pratley deserved the second yellow (maybe even a straight red offence). Take some fucking responsibility man - then FUCK OFF.
    I’ll pay another tenner on Tuesday because I feel a loyalty to TS rather than to the players. I’m just not looking forward to watching on Tuesday. 
    So will I - it's an involuntary act.

  • Yes and meanwhile back in the dressing room the players are whispering to themselves " Lose against Wigan on tuesday he will be def gone".
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    edited February 2021
    Scott Minto asking how we turn this around. Bowyer saying you have to look at who's constantly at fault during games, and suggests he's already decided who that is, but doesn't say who.
  • He's waiting for a payoff, not got the decency to walk.

    Prick.
    No offence but I think if anyone on here did differently and didnt take the pay off then they're a mug

    Fair comment FA, I'm just seething like everyone else.

    I'll go down the greenhouse with my bottle of Shiraz :and cool off :/
  • bobmunro said:
    Jayajosh said:
    bobmunro said:
    Up until 2.45pm I WAS NOT GOING TO SPUNK A TENNER ON THIS SHIT.

    But I did, can't help supporting this crock of shit although I wish I could.

    I simply cannot remember a time in my 56 years supporting the Club where we've had a worst team. Clueless, spineless, incompetent (from the team management down) and totally lacking any semblance of a team.

    We will survive this season but any hope of promotion has gone completely. We need a new management team NOW and their task will be to not give much of a toss about the rest of this season - they need to get rid of the dead wood (80% of the squad) and rebuild.

    And on cue Bowyer turns up and blames the ref. For Fucks Sake - we were shit, Pratley deserved the second yellow (maybe even a straight red offence). Take some fucking responsibility man - then FUCK OFF.
    I’ll pay another tenner on Tuesday because I feel a loyalty to TS rather than to the players. I’m just not looking forward to watching on Tuesday. 
    So will I - it's an involuntary act.

    And it's not something a vaccination can help you with.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Shots on target - NIL
    My interest in the rest of the season - NIL
  • Bowyer on VP

    “Where do you start? We give them goal head start with a simple ball”
    ”After that the officials kill us. Jayden goal was onside. Pratley second yellow harsh. Chuks red too. We got nothing from them. We’ll contest Chuks red”
    ”second goal was disappointing. Runs for 20 yards with nothing. Not good enough”
    ”Game over after Prats red”
    ”Wasn’t much in first 45. Horrible first 45 for both sides. They were a little bit better” 
    Bowyer continued;

    “Second penalty. He just dived on the floor. Officials have to be accountable too. We’ll get an apology for Chuks red. But it doesn’t help us now”
    ”Wingers had no impact on the game from either side. Didn’t think they impacted the game. That’s why I made the changes”
    ”Massive blow if we lose Chuks for 4 games. Hope they’ll look back and change this though”
    ”People get opportunities. They have to grab these opportunities. Players not in a good place at the moment. Results aren’t going our  way. They look nervous.”
    ”We have to look at why are there people constantly at fault for goals. Constantly giving opportunities away to opposition. That’s happened again today. So can’t keep playing that player”
    ”Pick the best 11. But they can’t physically go Saturday Tuesday Saturday”
    ”Have to bring out a player if they’re conceding goals. Same if a striker isn’t doing things at other end” 
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I will buy all the remaining fifteen defeats.
    But it's gonna hurt.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Aneke did catch him but there was no intent.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,745
    edited February 2021
    Scott says should we pick the best eleven and keep the side for a few games and he say's we can't.  

    Why can't this team go saturday , Tuesday , Saturday , Tuesday ???? Other teams can so why does he think we can't ? 

    He's obsessed with resting players. 
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,885
    I take your point and am delighted he has taken over ownership of the club, but he should have made the change weeks ago and not doing so has almost certainly cost us any chance of going up this season.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    “If you’re not winning games, it’s someone’s fault.”

    Yes Lee. It is.
    I’ll give you a minute to think about it.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Aneke did catch him but there was no intent.
    Is intent the rule? Genuine question
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,920
    aliwibble said:
    Scott Minto asking how we turn this around. Bowyer saying you have to look at who's constantly at fault during games, and suggests he's already decided who that is, but doesn't say who.
    Cant really out himself on camera 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,291
    Fucking hell.
    Listening to Bowyer is embarrassing.
    Now digging out Washington for not complaining about being out the side.
    That wasn't what he said. He was saying that Washington's performance wasn't forcing him to put him back in the side.
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    Only hope with the Aneke red card is that it seems similar to what Lerma was given a red card for against Luton a few weeks ago which was overturned 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    shine166 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Scott Minto asking how we turn this around. Bowyer saying you have to look at who's constantly at fault during games, and suggests he's already decided who that is, but doesn't say who.
    Cant really out himself on camera 
    He was happy enough to name Washington in his criticism.
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  • Croydon said:
    Aneke did catch him but there was no intent.
    Is intent the rule? Genuine question
    Trouble is Football is a contact sport, there is going to be times where you cant avoid catching the player
  • SE_7EVEN
    SE_7EVEN Posts: 287
    seth plum said:
    I will buy all the remaining fifteen defeats.
    But it's gonna hurt.
    When we get relegated, sadly I'll be watching them as well, as there is always hope!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    CAFCsayer said:
    That is a load of crap... He should be coming out going mad at Pratley there
    And yet when he did that at Williams and Maddison there were entire threads devoted to how he'd lost it calling out his own players and how damaging it could be. There were plenty then talking about how Alex Ferguson would deflect onto refs and opposition players after the games and then handle discipline or performance issues in-house, and wonder why Bowyer couldn't do the same. I don't honestly know what people expect Bowyer to say in these post-match press conferences. He'll feel like he went into the game with a plan and the players didn't execute it. He's not going to take the blame every game because no manager does that. Maybe here and there, but if every week you blame yourself you just invite more criticism. He can either dig out the players or focus on something else, and either way he'll get grief for it. Just highlights the pointlessness of managers having to talk to the press immediately after a game really.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    aliwibble said:
    Fucking hell.
    Listening to Bowyer is embarrassing.
    Now digging out Washington for not complaining about being out the side.
    That wasn't what he said. He was saying that Washington's performance wasn't forcing him to put him back in the side.
    Still quite unnecessary nonetheless... He was the last of our problems today
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Croydon said:
    Aneke did catch him but there was no intent.
    Is intent the rule? Genuine question
    I think the lack of a swing and intent would make it a booking.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,767
    He said Washington had an opportunity to stake a claim for a place in the team next week and he didn't take it. He used Conor as an example to make a wider point about the fact that everyone in the squad is doing the same - no-one is coming into the side and grabbing the shirt.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    Bowyer on VP

    “Where do you start? We give them goal head start with a simple ball”
    ”After that the officials kill us. Jayden goal was onside. Pratley second yellow harsh. Chuks red too. We got nothing from them. We’ll contest Chuks red”
    ”second goal was disappointing. Runs for 20 yards with nothing. Not good enough”
    ”Game over after Prats red”
    ”Wasn’t much in first 45. Horrible first 45 for both sides. They were a little bit better” 
    Bowyer continued;

    “Second penalty. He just dived on the floor. Officials have to be accountable too. We’ll get an apology for Chuks red. But it doesn’t help us now”
    ”Wingers had no impact on the game from either side. Didn’t think they impacted the game. That’s why I made the changes”
    ”Massive blow if we lose Chuks for 4 games. Hope they’ll look back and change this though”
    ”People get opportunities. They have to grab these opportunities. Players not in a good place at the moment. Results aren’t going our  way. They look nervous.”
    ”We have to look at why are there people constantly at fault for goals. Constantly giving opportunities away to opposition. That’s happened again today. So can’t keep playing that player”
    ”Pick the best 11. But they can’t physically go Saturday Tuesday Saturday”
    ”Have to bring out a player if they’re conceding goals. Same if a striker isn’t doing things at other end” 
    WTF, you keep him on the bench anyway you mug
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,745
    Even Curbs is saying we need a settled side. All the more reason for him to take over while we look for a new manager. 
  • Morgan, Lapslie, Williams, Maddison

    Shinnie, Pratley, Watson, Smyth. 

    I'd chuck in Gilbey, Gunter, Schwartz

    Yeah great recruitment. 

    Ain't got a clue. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Think he meant a collective responsibility, they have all had a go at being shite and very successful at it too.