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Post-match Thread: Charlton v Blackpool | Sat 27 Feb 2021

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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    All the players are shit and league 2 even the ones the ones that were called  championship level like Matthew's, Watson and Chris "he's never played below the championship Welsh international" Gunter. 

    Or something
  • CAFCsayer said:
    That is a load of crap... He should be coming out going mad at Pratley there
    And yet when he did that at Williams and Maddison there were entire threads devoted to how he'd lost it calling out his own players and how damaging it could be. There were plenty then talking about how Alex Ferguson would deflect onto refs and opposition players after the games and then handle discipline or performance issues in-house, and wonder why Bowyer couldn't do the same. I don't honestly know what people expect Bowyer to say in these post-match press conferences. He'll feel like he went into the game with a plan and the players didn't execute it. He's not going to take the blame every game because no manager does that. Maybe here and there, but if every week you blame yourself you just invite more criticism. He can either dig out the players or focus on something else, and either way he'll get grief for it. Just highlights the pointlessness of managers having to talk to the press immediately after a game really.
    I've felt for a few games now that quite a few people on here should avoid his Post Match Interview now

    He's not going to say what they want to hear so should just mute the TV whilst he's talking as its just going to make them angry
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,783
    aliwibble said:
    Fucking hell.
    Listening to Bowyer is embarrassing.
    Now digging out Washington for not complaining about being out the side.
    That wasn't what he said. He was saying that Washington's performance wasn't forcing him to put him back in the side.
    No, he said he should be screaming at him to put him in.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,986
    What’s Curbs saying? Despite being told I’m a romantic out of touch fool, it’s him until the end of the season for me 
  • Curbs is superb in his analysis - should have been England manager 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,920
    shine166 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Scott Minto asking how we turn this around. Bowyer saying you have to look at who's constantly at fault during games, and suggests he's already decided who that is, but doesn't say who.
    Cant really out himself on camera 
    He was happy enough to name Washington in his criticism.
    As per, not the first player hes called out 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,767
    Think the red mist has descended for many on here and things are being heard that aren't said.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,767
    CAFCsayer said:
    That is a load of crap... He should be coming out going mad at Pratley there
    And yet when he did that at Williams and Maddison there were entire threads devoted to how he'd lost it calling out his own players and how damaging it could be. There were plenty then talking about how Alex Ferguson would deflect onto refs and opposition players after the games and then handle discipline or performance issues in-house, and wonder why Bowyer couldn't do the same. I don't honestly know what people expect Bowyer to say in these post-match press conferences. He'll feel like he went into the game with a plan and the players didn't execute it. He's not going to take the blame every game because no manager does that. Maybe here and there, but if every week you blame yourself you just invite more criticism. He can either dig out the players or focus on something else, and either way he'll get grief for it. Just highlights the pointlessness of managers having to talk to the press immediately after a game really.
    It's another case of damned if he does, damned if he doesn't from the vocal Bowyer out crowd.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    edited February 2021
    Even Curbs is saying we need a settled side. All the more reason for him to take over while we look for a new manager. 
    How many times have we played the same 11 this season? It's a joke... I'd do this, curbs til the end of the season and reevaluate. We are still only 5 points off playoffs (somehow), we change now, we could still do it. If we don't, this season is over
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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Went for a walk in the park instead of watching. 

    Seems I didn't miss much. 

    What's happened to Morgan? I'm not saying he's a savior but since doing well against Bristol and then getting a 2nd yellow he's hardly had a look in. 
  • Think the red mist has descended for many on here and things are being heard that aren't said.
    This is the problem with this (and part of last) season. Those on here swearing and calling bowyer certain names are usually down the pub at this point saying those things to a mate. Then an hour or two, or even Sunday morning they’re on CL to talk about the game. 

    Now people are on post match thread 30 seconds after the game letting 100% of there anger and frustration out by typing. 
  • The one really impressive thing about this afternoon is Scott Minto.

    He really is handling an impossible situation really well.

    Sky are bonkers letting him go.
    In a similar vein, no idea why Sky let Botham and Gower go on the Cricket side of things
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    As my late dad used to say on days like these... That was a shower of shit!

    Not sure where to start after that... But LB is delusional with comments like that. 

    He has to go but who knows... After Burton I thought he was toast. 

    The double standards of LB who moans at Morgan but doesn't criticise Pratley the captain who even a blind person could see was going to get sent off but he says nothing! That is a discrace!

    I hope TS and Ged are talking because allowing this fall to carry on will end in tears and relegation. 

    I loved LB as a player but feared the hero could go to zero if he stayed and things went badly wrong and now look at it....

    Please TS put LB out of his misery. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    The one really impressive thing about this afternoon is Scott Minto.

    He really is handling an impossible situation really well.

    Sky are bonkers letting him go.
    Were we not winning games until Minto turned up on Valley Pass? Seems a bit suspicious. #mintoout
  • The one really impressive thing about this afternoon is Scott Minto.

    He really is handling an impossible situation really well.

    Sky are bonkers letting him go.
    Their loss, our gain.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Pathetic, gutless and clueless.

    Bowyer is not making it work.  Keep mixing up the team, top goalscorer not starting and just throwing on random players.

    Not seen anything to suggest he can or will turn it around or warrant wasting another season in the hope he will.

    If there were sensible tactics and formations with consistent line ups and best players starting regularly but it just wasn't happening then could almost argue we're not having the rub of the green and give him time.

    But only consistency is the nonsensical team rotations and line ups.

    Players look non league standard and we are not a team playing against teams.  Need a big reset and clear out this summer.  

    Get a temp in now to see out the season and see if the players can be bothered playing for a place next year otherwise jog the lot of them on.

    Oh and I love the partisan commentary and all of the commentators but please stop blaming the refs every game.  They are generally poor and inconsistent at this level but that's the case for every team and it's not a referreeing vendetta against Charlton every time we concede a foul.  It's largely because our players aren't at the races.

    Utter shite from top to bottom and substantial changes needed from top to bottom unless we want to spend the next few years as also rans in this poxy league.

    Load of bollocks.


    Spot on for me Rodders!  Just listening to Bowyer’s post match analysis.  I’ve been of the opinion that he deserves a run in the summer without a salary cap and under stability but that’s out the window now.  He’s got to go.  For whatever reason, it’s imploded and it’s ugly.  

    So many players look poor, there’s no shape, no system, no clue.  

    Pratley abysmal.  Come in number 15 your time is up.  Benjy Nurick tweeted that he mouthed ‘that was f****** s***’ for their second goal, what a nerve.  This is the guy that’s undroppable for his professionalism, yet can just get away with abdicating responsibility for his part in a very poor team.  

    It’s laughable all round, on valley pass they’re still taking about being 5 pts off the play offs for God’s sake.

    It’s refs, it’s this, it’s that, it’s excuses.  

    Utter shambles all round.  Only positive I can take from that is Pratley is out for the next game 
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    Curbs, Minto, are as deluded as Bowyer...... still taking about the run.... GET REAL IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN....... 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Croydon said:
    Aneke did catch him but there was no intent.
    Is intent the rule? Genuine question
    Trouble is Football is a contact sport, there is going to be times where you cant avoid catching the player
    I get that, and don't disagree. But an elbow to the face gas always been a red, so it's not a bad decision by the ref. Was clear contact to the face.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,365
    Think we have too many players on the decline career wise.

    Gunter, Watson, Pratley, Amos hardly screams energy does it.

    I know you need some experience in the squad but we’ve really taken that too far.
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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    CAFCsayer said:
    That is a load of crap... He should be coming out going mad at Pratley there
    And yet when he did that at Williams and Maddison there were entire threads devoted to how he'd lost it calling out his own players and how damaging it could be. There were plenty then talking about how Alex Ferguson would deflect onto refs and opposition players after the games and then handle discipline or performance issues in-house, and wonder why Bowyer couldn't do the same. I don't honestly know what people expect Bowyer to say in these post-match press conferences. He'll feel like he went into the game with a plan and the players didn't execute it. He's not going to take the blame every game because no manager does that. Maybe here and there, but if every week you blame yourself you just invite more criticism. He can either dig out the players or focus on something else, and either way he'll get grief for it. Just highlights the pointlessness of managers having to talk to the press immediately after a game really.
    Eh? Williams and Maddison pulled out of a tackle... Pratley (a seasoned Pro and our captain) just pushed someone in the neck/face when on a yellow. Not even comparable, bloke is a prick
  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,877
    Shots on target - NIL
    My interest in the rest of the season - NIL
    Shots on target nil must be a record.
  • Rylo
    Rylo Posts: 860
    “If you’re not winning games, it’s someone’s fault.”

    Yes Lee. It is.
    I’ll give you a minute to think about it.
    Would it really take that long?
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Curbs, Minto, are as deluded as Bowyer...... still taking about the run.... GET REAL IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN....... 
    I couldn’t even listen to it toward the end.  Delusional 
  • The one really impressive thing about this afternoon is Scott Minto.

    He really is handling an impossible situation really well.

    Sky are bonkers letting him go.
    Its diversity doncha know. Got to have more wimmin, ethnic preffered.
  • Croydon said:
    Croydon said:
    Aneke did catch him but there was no intent.
    Is intent the rule? Genuine question
    Trouble is Football is a contact sport, there is going to be times where you cant avoid catching the player
    I get that, and don't disagree. But an elbow to the face gas always been a red, so it's not a bad decision by the ref. Was clear contact to the face.
    Was it a genuine elbow or flailing arm that Chuks had used for leverage?

    Looked the latter to me
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    I've really enjoyed Curbs and Minto but I'm even finding their comments repetitive now. Looking at the results and saying winnable games and runs. It's deja vu, groundhog Day. They aren't winnable games under this lot and management, I wish one of them would say it 

    Just seen that Thomas has had Metallica added into a promo for valleypass haha, got to love him 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,224
    The one really impressive thing about this afternoon is Scott Minto.

    He really is handling an impossible situation really well.

    Sky are bonkers letting him go.
    Minto was class as always... Also thought lisbie came across really well
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    I cannot believe that there are still people paying to watch the streams. That’s not a criticism. I just can’t believe it.