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For the love of all that is holy. I’ve never said Jacko is the man, I don’t he is, but the willingness for some to pile in is a bit tragic10
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Come on lads you all wanted Bowyer out surely you had thought that through and decided who could take on the job after?10
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Absolutely this. I'm fascinated that so many of our fans seem to have been attending our first team training sessions and have an inside line on on Jacko's shortcomings as a coach. How do you know this? And why is it a sign of a lack of ambition to appoint a rookie manager? All great managers are rookies when they start out. The last one was a rookie and he got us promoted. Powell was a rookie and he got us promoted, as was Curbs when he took over with Steve Gritt.ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.
I've no idea if he's the right man for the job, and the same goes for Jason Euell. However, Sandgaard has invested as much as he could in the playing side within the constraints of the salary cap, he wants to get promoted and he will appoint whoever he thinks is best for the job. If he picks Jacko it'll be because Sandgaard thinks he's the likeliest to get us promoted, not because he's a cheap option.
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What pile in and say he has no experience ? I doubt JJ would argue with that.esseffect said:Come on lads you all wanted Bowyer out surely you had thought that through and decided who could take on the job after?0 -
Don’t remember our owner at those points in our history saying he has a plan for European football in ten years.MrLargo said:
Absolutely this. I'm fascinated that so many of our fans seem to have been attending our first team training sessions and have an inside line on on Jacko's shortcomings as a coach. How do you know this? And why is it a sign of a lack of ambition to appoint a rookie manager? All great managers are rookies when they start out. The last one was a rookie and he got us promoted. Powell was a rookie and he got us promoted, as was Curbs when he took over with Steve Gritt.ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.
I've no idea if he's the right man for the job, and the same goes for Jason Euell. However, Sandgaard has invested as much as he could in the playing side within the constraints of the salary cap, he wants to get promoted and he will appoint whoever he thinks is best for the job. If he picks Jacko it'll be because Sandgaard thinks he's the likeliest to get us promoted, not because he's a cheap option.0 -
Michael Beale for me.I’d like to see a tactically astute “coach”, as opposed to a “motivator”. Fits the bill of a relative unknown, but with great pedigree, who you could imagine being here a while and working in a higher league15
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To suggest its incompetence is total waffle, which isn't the point anyone is making.ElliotCAFC said:
So? That’s not a point anyone is making.Cafc43v3r said:
Hardly been a tactical master class though has it?ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.Suggesting they where so incompetent that they were out-thought every week is absolute waffle
To suggest that they have been out thought would probably be true. How many times this season have the opposition made made multiple half time subs and changes of formation?
Its either out thought or plain wrong.2 -
Probably get Ian Beale instead !Brighton_Addick said:Michael Beale for me.I’d like to see a tactically astute “coach”, as opposed to a “motivator”. Fits the bill of a relative unknown, but with great pedigree, who you could imagine being here a while and working in a higher league1 -
Had the people now wanting Beale heard of him before he said one thing nice about the club on Twitter?11
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Don't forget that more than a few fans used to pile in to Jackson before he'd even retired. The whole 'legs have gone' thing is a running joke now but I remember how frustrating it was when there were plenty who were moaning about him still being allowed to play football every week while he was still scoring goals to bail us out in matches. Some people just want to mope and moan about coaches and players no matter what, it's no surprise there are people writing Jacko off before he's even had his first press conferenceRothko said:For the love of all that is holy. I’ve never said Jacko is the man, I don’t he is, but the willingness for some to pile in is a bit tragic
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You have to wonder don’t you!hudson-son-son said:Had the people now wanting Beale heard of him before he said one thing nice about the club on Twitter?0 -
Not our choice though is it? Like it wasn't our choice if he stayed or not, or yours.esseffect said:Come on lads you all wanted Bowyer out surely you had thought that through and decided who could take on the job after?
Pepe
Klopp
Or Brian Clough
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It won't be number 4, looks like he has the Sheffield United job in the bag and stabed Wilder in the back.AddickRam said:Top 10 List:
1. Danny Cowley (Out of work and will want a project amazing attention to detail)2. Nathan Jones (Amazing job at Luton and did wonders with our under 23s attractive football)
3. Michael Beale (World Class Coach, technically and tactically develops players good step into management)4. Jason Tindall (UEFA pro license, ex academy player played with Bowyer at senrab)5. Johnnie Jackson/Jason Euell (Interim)6. Russell Martin (Good leader, doing a good job at MK Dons)7. Michael Laudrup (Danish Connection being a head coach rather then a manager)8. Jon Dahl Tomasson (Same as above)9. Matty Taylor (Ex Charlton Player, management experience with Exeter)10. Garry Monk (Out of work, plenty of champ experience)0 -
We’ve had a lot of managerial changes over the past decade, but this will be the most interesting. We still don’t really know much about Sandgaard, the January window was a little underwhelming but the salary cap could be to blame for that. This appointment will say much about Sandgaard’s ambition and vision for the club, we have to get it right.6
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I didn't realise that we had to appoint our future Champions League-lifting manager immediately, and I have to say it seems a touch unrealistic to me that we'd be able to attract someone of that pedigree when we're mid-table in League 1. Which are the other clubs that have done that from our position?ShootersHillGuru said:
Don’t remember our owner at those points in our history saying he has a plan for European football in ten years.MrLargo said:
Absolutely this. I'm fascinated that so many of our fans seem to have been attending our first team training sessions and have an inside line on on Jacko's shortcomings as a coach. How do you know this? And why is it a sign of a lack of ambition to appoint a rookie manager? All great managers are rookies when they start out. The last one was a rookie and he got us promoted. Powell was a rookie and he got us promoted, as was Curbs when he took over with Steve Gritt.ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.
I've no idea if he's the right man for the job, and the same goes for Jason Euell. However, Sandgaard has invested as much as he could in the playing side within the constraints of the salary cap, he wants to get promoted and he will appoint whoever he thinks is best for the job. If he picks Jacko it'll be because Sandgaard thinks he's the likeliest to get us promoted, not because he's a cheap option.
I'd be quite happy with someone to get us out of this division and then turn us into a contender in the Championship. Don't run before you can walk.
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Personally I had, through Rangers fans at work who rave about him.hudson-son-son said:Had the people now wanting Beale heard of him before he said one thing nice about the club on Twitter?But does it matter? I’m sure most have heard of Campbell, Harris, Pulis, Jackett, etc all of whom would be a disaster2 -
Thinking of back room staff I think Andy Hughes would be a good shout, I think he is available.5
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This. I really don’t understand why some feel the next appointment has to be the manager in 5/6 years. It would be lovely but like you say, small steps let’s concentrate on getting promotion first.MrLargo said:
I didn't realise that we had to appoint our future Champions League-lifting manager immediately, and I have to say it seems a touch unrealistic to me that we'd be able to attract someone of that pedigree when we're mid-table in League 1. Which are the other clubs that have done that from our position?ShootersHillGuru said:
Don’t remember our owner at those points in our history saying he has a plan for European football in ten years.MrLargo said:
Absolutely this. I'm fascinated that so many of our fans seem to have been attending our first team training sessions and have an inside line on on Jacko's shortcomings as a coach. How do you know this? And why is it a sign of a lack of ambition to appoint a rookie manager? All great managers are rookies when they start out. The last one was a rookie and he got us promoted. Powell was a rookie and he got us promoted, as was Curbs when he took over with Steve Gritt.ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.
I've no idea if he's the right man for the job, and the same goes for Jason Euell. However, Sandgaard has invested as much as he could in the playing side within the constraints of the salary cap, he wants to get promoted and he will appoint whoever he thinks is best for the job. If he picks Jacko it'll be because Sandgaard thinks he's the likeliest to get us promoted, not because he's a cheap option.
I'd be quite happy with someone to get us out of this division and then turn us into a contender in the Championship. Don't run before you can walk.6 -
I am struggling to think of many realistic options at the moment and wonder if it will be a left field appointment.Top of my head my choices in no particular order would be.Jackson
powell
ainsworth
Beale
cowley
Stendell0 -
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It's only marginally more unlikley than the other 2 or Eddie Howe.Redrobo said:8 -
I think TS wants exactly that - and expect whomever comes in to be on a long contractcafcfan1990 said:
This. I really don’t understand why some feel the next appointment has to be the manager in 5/6 years. It would be lovely but like you say, small steps let’s concentrate on getting promotion first.MrLargo said:
I didn't realise that we had to appoint our future Champions League-lifting manager immediately, and I have to say it seems a touch unrealistic to me that we'd be able to attract someone of that pedigree when we're mid-table in League 1. Which are the other clubs that have done that from our position?ShootersHillGuru said:
Don’t remember our owner at those points in our history saying he has a plan for European football in ten years.MrLargo said:
Absolutely this. I'm fascinated that so many of our fans seem to have been attending our first team training sessions and have an inside line on on Jacko's shortcomings as a coach. How do you know this? And why is it a sign of a lack of ambition to appoint a rookie manager? All great managers are rookies when they start out. The last one was a rookie and he got us promoted. Powell was a rookie and he got us promoted, as was Curbs when he took over with Steve Gritt.ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.
I've no idea if he's the right man for the job, and the same goes for Jason Euell. However, Sandgaard has invested as much as he could in the playing side within the constraints of the salary cap, he wants to get promoted and he will appoint whoever he thinks is best for the job. If he picks Jacko it'll be because Sandgaard thinks he's the likeliest to get us promoted, not because he's a cheap option.
I'd be quite happy with someone to get us out of this division and then turn us into a contender in the Championship. Don't run before you can walk.3 -
Brighton_Addick said:
I think TS wants exactly that - and expect whomever comes in to be on a long contractcafcfan1990 said:
This. I really don’t understand why some feel the next appointment has to be the manager in 5/6 years. It would be lovely but like you say, small steps let’s concentrate on getting promotion first.MrLargo said:
I didn't realise that we had to appoint our future Champions League-lifting manager immediately, and I have to say it seems a touch unrealistic to me that we'd be able to attract someone of that pedigree when we're mid-table in League 1. Which are the other clubs that have done that from our position?ShootersHillGuru said:
Don’t remember our owner at those points in our history saying he has a plan for European football in ten years.MrLargo said:
Absolutely this. I'm fascinated that so many of our fans seem to have been attending our first team training sessions and have an inside line on on Jacko's shortcomings as a coach. How do you know this? And why is it a sign of a lack of ambition to appoint a rookie manager? All great managers are rookies when they start out. The last one was a rookie and he got us promoted. Powell was a rookie and he got us promoted, as was Curbs when he took over with Steve Gritt.ElliotCAFC said:
Couldn’t be further from the truth. Unlike Bowyer, he’s always wanted to be a coach/manager.SELR_addicks said:
Jackson strikes me as another 'passion/get stuck in' manager that will get out-thought every week like Bowyer has done.Callumcafc said:No word twisting going on SHG. I just think it's extremely unfair to dismiss Jackson in the way that you have done. Every good manager had to start somewhere.
I've seen nothing and heard nothing that would tell me any different.He started his own youth academy while still playing, took all of his badges and is currently going through the process of getting his UEFA pro licence. You only have to look at his Twitter and its full of tactical drill ideas from various teams around the world.
Very disrespectful for no reason to suggest Bowyer and Jackson get out-thought every week.
I've no idea if he's the right man for the job, and the same goes for Jason Euell. However, Sandgaard has invested as much as he could in the playing side within the constraints of the salary cap, he wants to get promoted and he will appoint whoever he thinks is best for the job. If he picks Jacko it'll be because Sandgaard thinks he's the likeliest to get us promoted, not because he's a cheap option.
I'd be quite happy with someone to get us out of this division and then turn us into a contender in the Championship. Don't run before you can walk.
Imagine if Bowyer resigned, we needed a new manager and we still had Roland.
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Russell Martin is a great shoutAddickRam said:Top 10 List:
1. Danny Cowley (Out of work and will want a project amazing attention to detail)2. Nathan Jones (Amazing job at Luton and did wonders with our under 23s attractive football)
3. Michael Beale (World Class Coach, technically and tactically develops players good step into management)4. Jason Tindall (UEFA pro license, ex academy player played with Bowyer at senrab)5. Johnnie Jackson/Jason Euell (Interim)6. Russell Martin (Good leader, doing a good job at MK Dons)7. Michael Laudrup (Danish Connection being a head coach rather then a manager)8. Jon Dahl Tomasson (Same as above)9. Matty Taylor (Ex Charlton Player, management experience with Exeter)10. Garry Monk (Out of work, plenty of champ experience)0 -
It has to be Cowleys for me! They’d come! It’s the right project, London club and a good owner! Someone I like who is in work is Russell Martin at MK Dons, best team I’ve seen us play this season. With a budget he would be very good.3
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I am a huge believer that Charlton are a special club and we need a manager that understands that culture we have here - and, yes, I know every club probably feels they are special.
But look back at our modern history and it’s no surprise that our three most successful managers - Curbishley, Powell and Bowyer - were all ex players and all knew understood the club.
Yes, Pardew was the exception to that but circumstances were different and to be fair to the bloke - much as we know he is a bit of an arse - he actually did very well in the Premiership for us and nearly kept us up.
Then just look at the others and weep: Dowie, Parkinson, Riga, Peters, Luzon, Fraeye, Slade and Robinson.
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t give the job to an outsider - of course not - but it does mean we need to make sure as far as possible that the next manager knows and understands what this club is really about.
For me it’s too late for Curbs now, he’s been out too long, but I would not rule out Powell at all even though he got binned at Huddersfield and Southend, I think he does bring something special to the table still and clearly has an eye for a player.
That being said I wouldn’t rule out Jackson either, he has seen the good and bad times and knows the problems we have better than anyone else so is arguably better placed to fix them.
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Charlton connection. L1 promotion in his past. Probably played in Europe for a top team. Someone who can bring a 40% plus win rate.0
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The statement Thomas made saying he wanted to appoint a new man by the end of the week would seem to rule out any application process. It’s either that Thomas is already speaking with a chosen candidate and is finalising the deal or he’s going to appoint internally. Possibly the latter should the former fall through.0
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